When I started thinking way too much about zombies: When I was 10 and my parents took me to see the movie Zombie Attack at the drive in. (yes this means I am old) Favorite zombie book: ZSG, WWZ, Zombie Land, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead, and Lord of the Dead. Favorite zombie movie: Day of the Dead, Zombie Land, Shawn of the Dead, and Dawn of the Dead. Favorite quote in any zombie movie: Who's Bill Murry?, Put something over that window before they get in.
My Survival Plan:
My “handle” should you look for you on the radio waves or web: Junk Man/Tim
Is my plan dependent on zombies in your home town, or anywhere? Anywhere, everywhere, any time of day, and any day of the week. Will I be staying in my home or headed somewhere else? I will stay for a week or as long as I can, in my double wide Mobile Home, if I can? Then I will search for a more sturdy and rural location. If I'm heading out, how do I plan to get there? Jeep 2012 Grand Cherokee , 2010 Dodge Sprint Van, Gator, or on Foot. Got anyone I want to take with me? I am willing to take any one, as long as they are useful. How will I communicate with the outside world, or do I plan to go the hermit route? Communications: Cell phone, C.B., and spray paint. How am I planning to get food and water? I keep 4 plus month plus of can, and dry goods on hand for my family of three. I also have 2 months of freeze dried and MRE meals. As for water I have 7 50 gallon barrels, 20 24 packs of 16.9 oz. bottles, and 40 gallon jugsof water stored in my "Man trailer" and in my pole barn. I will get water from the river about 3 blocks away and 5 rain barrels. Later I will hunt, fish, garden, gather and scavenge. Power? I have 7 solar panels (2400 volt each), 2 wind turbines (1400 volts each ), 30 battery storage and distribution system. Plenty to run everything in my home just as I can and do with the power line. What’s my weapon of choice? Do you need to reload that thing? Gotta plan for that?
H&K MR 556, 2520 rounds 5.56X45 South African military surplus, 1960 rounds Remington .223 and 26 - 30 round mags.
Navy .44 black powder revolver, 5# black powder, 130 lead balls, wax, 190 patches.
Thompson .50 cal. black powder rifle, 4# black powder 160 balls, 200 patches.
Bear 340 Compound Bow, 40 arrows.
Bear 180# Cross Bow, 42 bolts (assorted heads)
Got a survival philosophy? Live! Survive one day at a time and strive to make the next day, a better day to live.
Bug Out Bag and Gear
This is my on foot gear list, I will take much more, with the probability of taking my Jeep Cherokee.
Pack Wilderness trails pack (medium size)
1 - 3 quart hydration pack 2 - 1 liter bottles of water 50 Water treatment tablets 2 Water bottle filters 2 Emergency straws 12 instant coffee packets (Folgers).
1 Jar of Peanut Butter 6 Energy bars (Cliff Bars) 6 Slim Jims (long) 4 Romen noodles Gum (small tub)
Hobo knife Cooking pot Salt and pepper (in small shaker) 6 Honey, 2 mustard, 5 hot sauce, and 12 jelly packets (in plastic box) 100 water/wind proof matches 2 Spark rod 2 Bic lighters Quart zip-loc bag filled with: fire Fire starting sticks, paper, and lint. 2 - 12 hour survival candles
1 Dawn dish soap (small 3oz.) 1 Towel (in zip lock bag) 1 Wash cloth (in zip lock bag) 1 First aid kit (large, bought at Wal-Mart) 1 4 inch Ace bandage & 6 safety pins Iodine (medium bottle) 10 days of diabetes pills 10 days of blood pressure pills 12 Oxycontin 30 Advil (liquid caps) 24 Pepto tablets 24 Imodium AD 24 Day Quil Snake bite kit 4 Super glue (single use) (from here up is stuffed in the first aid box) Hand lotion (travel size) 2 Mosquito repellent bracelet
1 Small sewing kit Comb Nail clipper Mirror (signal) Tooth brush & paste (travel size) Foot powder (travel size) 20 Q tips (in zip lock bag)
1 Radio/light 25 LED/charger -(solar, wind-up, and battery) Road atlas Compass pin (on strap) Small fishing kit 2 Fisher mans yo-yo's Folding fillet knife Small wet stone 12 AA Batteries 12 AAA Batteries 6 large watch batteries
Birth certificate (in zip lock bag) Copy of deed (in zip lock bag) Photos of family (in zip lock bag) C.B. hand held {Every thing below is in Quart bags then in 1 gallon zip-lock bag} 2 T shirt,(1 long sleeve &1 short) 4 Pair of socks 1 Pair of thermal socks 1 Set thermal underwear 1 Tan Kaki pants 1 Sweat shirt
Knit ski hat 2 Medical mask 6 Pair latex gloves (in zip lock bag) Prescription safety glasses
Note book 2 Mechanical pencil 20 Extra leads for pencil 50 Individual wrapped, eye glass cleaning wipes 1 Roll of T.P. taken off of the tube in a zip-lock bag 10 Feet duct tape *Quick grab and go BOB along with the on me list.
*(All small items grouped in to zip lock bags, or small water proof boxes)
If I Have Time to Get More! Belt
Military surplus web belt
Left front: 2 - 2 mag. M-16 pouches with 4 - 30 round mags.
Left side: Marble skinning knife 3 AA Mag Light LED in pouch.
Left back: 2-2 mag. covered pistol pouches with 4 - 15 round Glock 22 mags. 25 oz. filtering water bottle (plastic) in pouch.
Back: pouch with small first aid kit (about the size of an Altoids tin), 2 energy bars, 20 water/wind proof matches in match case, 25 water treatment tablets, sun glass clip-ons, leather gloves, survival blanket, 8 glass cleaning wipes, 2 paint pens, and 10x40 mini binoculars.
Right back: 2 mag. M-16 pouch, 2 - 30 round mags. 1 quart canteen with steel cup
Right side: Glock 22 with 1-15 round mag. in gun and 1-15 round mag. in holster.
Right front: 18 mile walky talky compass in pouch
Garden Carts Heavy duty Garden Cart with extra padding on the handle. (Used if I need to leave on foot, with extra supplies, if I can't take my Jeep or van for some reason.) (these items will be gathered from the shed and house, and prepared when the time arises.)
Plastic tub #1 100 12 gauge shells (assorted) Axe 2D Mag lite 6 D Batteries Wool blanket 12 Energy Bars 1000 rounds 7.62X39 Remington 1911 10 - 8 round mags. 500 rounds of .45 600 rounds of 5.56X45 200 rounds of .40 S&W
Plastic Tub #2 6 large cans of tuna 6 cans of spam 12 ramen 500 water treatment tablets 6 1 liter plastic water bottles (full) 1 roll of T.P. in zip-lock bag Winter Coat ( if spring or summer) 1000 rounds of .22 lr. 10x10 tarp 12x12 tarp (to block wind, or put under tent) S&W 686 .357 revolver 5 speed loaders 500 rounds .357 h.p.
Beside the tubs: Remington 12 gauge over/under Marlin .22 with 4x scope Ak-47 with 7 - 30 round mags. (All in cases)
All of this and probably more will be taken, with the probability that I will be taking my Jeep Grand Cherokee.
On Me
carhart work pants t shirt long sleeve shirt 3 layer coat (in winter) carhart jacket (spring/fall) ball cap Detroit Tigers with cap light on bill work boots, pull on (all I ever wear) car keys Glock 19, pocket holster 5 - 16 round mags. cell phone Gerber multi. tool (back left pocket) Bic lighter (left front pocket) watch with compass (wrist) wallet with enhanced drivers license, and $500 to $1000, debit card, and credit card (right rear pocket) Loose change (front right pocket) Walking Staff (wood, 6 feet long)
Carrying
H&K MR 556 (AR-15) with 2 - 30 round mags. (clamped together), fore grip with flash light, and tactical sling.
Car Kit
Tool Box - assorted wrenches, sockets, pliers, screwdrivers, chisels, hammers, 30" crowbar, electrical and duct tape, zip ties, and other tools. Folding shovel.
5 Gallon gas can - always full
2 Spare tires - 1 in jeep secured against side, 1 on back tail gate. Jumper cables, cigarette lighter air pump, DC to AC converter, Small fire extinguisher fastened on back corner of Jeep (inside), 10 million candle spot light with DC charger (always charged), Jump Start (always charged), Jack and tire iron (under back seat), and 12 1 liter bottles of water.
Lap top back pack: 2 D Mag light, 6 D batteries, multi tool, rain poncho, wool blanket, 6 energy bars, 2 cans of chunky soup, 2 Bic lighters, 8X8 tarp, 50 water treatment pills, 1/2 roll t.p., 32" retractable baton, first aid kit (store bought, plastic box), 50' para cord, 50' nylon rope, map, compass, 3 - 1 liter bottles of water, and hobo knife.
Home Supplies Updated 8/28/2012
Food on Hand
Supplies in House
Barn
73 cans asst. vegetables
11 cans hash
26 large cans tuna
9 cans pork
13 cans chicken
11 cans beef
10 cans turkey
38 pints of canned deer
12 cans chili
7 cans corn beef
8 Spam
45 cans chunky soup
12# flour
15# sugar
12 containers salt
3 tins black pepper
4 tubs oatmeal
5 boxes instant rice
60# rice bulk bagged
8 cans la-choy
30# of beans
32 cans fruit
19# of macaroni
8# spaghetti
17 jars Ragu
21 cans tomatoes
20 cans mushrooms
3 pancake mix
4 syrup
2# corn meal
6 condensed milk
4 evaporated milk
28# powder milk
9 box instant potatoes
23 deluxe mac-n-cheese
5# trail mix
12# jerky
various spices
4 gallons vinegar
2 gallons olive oil
63 MRE
60# cat food (dry)
50 can cat food
200# asst. meat (frozen)
96 freeze dried meals, double portion packages.
70 freeze dried snacks, fruit, and vegetables in double portion packages.
& misc.
68 rolls T.P.
10 rolls paper towel
weaponry (see above)
3 oil lamps
1 gallon lamp oil
36 candles
& all of the other standard items most homes have.
17 bottles of laundry soap.
13 dish soap
1000's of old tools and household items.
2-5000 watt generator
130 gallons of gas
10 gallons lamp oil
10 oil lamps
tent
4 sleeping bag
2 lawn carts
wood working tools
2 pot belly stoves
Stove Pipe
200 feet of rope
100's of new tools
1000's of nails, screws, bolts
dozens of yard tools
300 feet of hose
400 feet of electric cord
gas powered air compressor
electric air compressor
10 face cord fire wood
100's of assorted boards
6 50 gallon blue water barrels.
2 water barrel hand pumps.
Lawn mower2
Lawn mower cart
My First Plan to Survive Z-Day
This plan will be very versatile and allow for constant adaption to the situation as it is needed, so that I am not cornered to a precise plan.
1. Bug in: If I bug in it will probably only be for a few weeks depending on the situations that arise and the type of zombies and outbreak rating. I live in a 14X70 mobile home in a very small village of 250 people. I have supplies (listed above).
2. Church: I may bug out to my church if the zombies and outbreak are of a low style.
load every thing into Jeep.
drive 2 miles to church.
unload
talk to everyone and see what is needed done.
do my part to help the group
volunteer to be part of a scavenging team to find needed supplies.
help in every way I can with the skills, knowledge, and physical abilities I have.
3. Bug out on foot (with time to pack): This is if bugging in for a couple of weeks and the roads are impassible for one of my vehicles.
load up heavy duty garden cart (list above).
grab BOB and guns.
walk to the church and check if it is a good place to stay.
if it's a no go at the Church.
I will go to the community college (steel doors, 1 inch windows), this location will work until I can prepare to head out.
find a 4x4 truck so I can travel off road as needed.
head up north (Michigan), where there is fewer people per area.
barricade a house, and start gathering supplies.
4. Bugging out on foot (fast): This is if my house is compromised.
grab BOB
grab guns (if time)
head for cars.
if I can't get to my cars, head for the church on foot.
On 12/19/2011 Flashlight50 a long time member passed away due to a stroke. He was an entrepreneur who loved guns, survival, and discussing zombies.
He will be missed on the site and by me personally. This site brought us together to become close friends, finding out that we were living less than 30 miles from each other. I shopped at his store, shot at his gun range, hunted with him, played poker, and spent many weekends barbecuing and watching the Pistons, Tigers, and Lions.
REST IN PEICE
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The gentleman's posts were always interesting and well thought out. I am sorry I never got to meet the man. My deepest condolences to his family and friends. He sounded like the kind of man to share a drink with and have a good time. Peace be with his closest.
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does your club wagon hold as much (if not more) than your jeep grand cherokee? and if so, is it better on fuel economy? because from my limited experience with jeeps, they do okay for a truck when it comes to fuel use (my brother in law owns one, 17 miles to the gallon I think.)
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"No my Jeep is a mid size Sport Utility, the Club wagon is an extended van. The Club wagon is one of the large vans with a lot of seats in it, like used for schools, churches, retirement homes and etc. When I bought mine it was the largest van made, I took out all of the seats except the driver and the front passenger seat.
My Jeep Gran Cherokee gets about 20 miles a gallon, the van gets about 16 miles a gallon. "
So lots of cargo space and close gas mileage.... I'd preffer the van if I were in your spot despite the jeep getting better fuel economy because in the initial panic the jeep might get stolen, and I personally think that in that type of situation, it's not worth risking your life over a car unless it has all your supplies in it, or is a major part of a convoy.
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I was working on my BOBs today and realized that I only had a 20 gauge single shot bolt action shot gun and a single shot bolt action .22 that my parents could handle using.
I have a double barrel 12 gauge I use for hunting but neither in their conditions could handle it.
I am thinking on a couple of cheep (and I do mean cheep) guns for them.
My father is 72 ex-army but on oxygen,he's fairly strong as long as he doesn't have to walk far or carry much. I don't think he could handle a 12 gauge's kick, jarring him very well.
For my father I was thinking on a semi auto .22,9mm. or any pistol caliber rifle, because he is still a great shot.
My mother is 65 with heart problems and arthritis that makes it hard for her to pull a hard trigger, but still as good a shot as most men.
I am thinking on a cheap .22 semi auto for her?
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A carbine in handgun caliber is a good idea, I know people on hear dog them, but I won a High Point carbine in 9mm and it is a good little shooter. Low mag capicity, but otherwise an outstanding little shooter. No I would not want to take in into the field on manuvers, it will never be a military issue weapon. But for home defense and occasional plinking it will do its job well. Load that sucker up with good JHP ammo and your parents should be GTG.
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I am considering purchasing an AK, probably a Warsp 10. I have never owned one and was wandering if those who have/had one considered them a valuable weapon.
I can usually get them around here for $350 new. I have a small budget saved for a gun of about $800.
I have priced out the extras I would want for now:
I went a different way with this idea. I attended an auction this morning and purchased a;
SKS ,(in great condition), with: 200 strip clips, case, and cleaning kit - for $90 1200 rounds of 7.62x39 - for $100
So I have a good semi auto rifle with plenty of ammunition, and strip clips, for me. and only payed little over $220 with taxes. Since I was willing to pay $800 for the AK and accessories, and saved $770, I can live with that.
I am going to order some replacement springs, and possibly a new trigger group, just to have extra. I will give it a shoot around tomorrow.
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