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 Andering_J_REDDSON |
New guy.
Aug 13 2008, 6:38 PM EDT
Well at least you got ONE right.Crowabrs are good. The GLOK, without a chance to fire it myself, I can't say much about, so I won't. You'd be AMAZED how many times people say waht you call a "no-duh" thing, and someone else says, "Oh, wow, I would never have thought of that!" Toilet paper? Guilty. Gunbelts? I mentioned that one, and that started a mini-contest to see who had the best config. (I chose the one I liked best.) Unfotunately, my young Aprrentice, you're gonna get bit. Hats? Only if you're well-ehind the wire. Skin job's grab that and use it to hold on. Here's a piece of advice for you; Actually game it oput. Seriously- Get a few of your friends to gether, they all take a turn playing survivor. As you go thorugh the gear, you'll see what works, and what DON'T.;) |
 steveo_justice |
1. RE: New guy.
Aug 13 2008, 11:32 PM EDT
Well of course you followed the link below the glock picture, so you know what a great gun it is. The cops use it, so it has a lot of merit from that as well.Being the keen-eyed man that you are, you will notice that there is no lanyard on the hat, so (provided a zombie can even get close enough to you to grab it) it will get torn off your head very quickly. Now, despite the miniscule tactical disadvantage it presents, some would still call a fedora superfluous in a Z-Appocolypse, so here is a list of the things you can do with mine: Boil water, carry water, dirt, food, or other small objects and substances, heep the sun off one's eyes, blind oneself while sleeping, fan yourself, mix substances and recipies (from soup to molotovs), cut upo to create a sturdy leather patch, touch hot objects (used liek an oven mitt), catch leaks, hold ammo, wave with while riding nuclear bombs, piss off environmentalists and vegans (its buffalo leather, baby), and look badass. And by the way, you dont have to pick out the exact brand and model of backpack and holster you're going to use -- this "young apprentice" is not "gonna get bit by a skin-job" if he uses the generic, lightwieght climbing pack in his garage (that he has hiked to the top of mountains with) and the holster he bought for his glock. And I assume that by "Skin jobs" you mean zombies and not an android, which is what a skin job is. |
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3. RE: New guy.
Aug 15 2008, 1:34 PM EDT
Ah, no, look it up. It came from blade runner and was a term for an android, and has been used in battlestar galactica in reference to the Silons.
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4. RE: New guy.
Aug 17 2008, 1:56 AM EDT
"Ah, no, look it up. It came from blade runner and was a term for an android, and has been used in battlestar galactica in reference to the Silons. "It's a generic derrogatory word for any Humanoid construct of flesh and bone other than Humans. Relicants, human-Form Cylons, even Data (Star Trek) got called that once. Moving on; You say becasue there's no lanyard I can't grab your hat? I must 'assume' that you are kidding. I could grab THE BILL (you know, that huge circle around the outside) and if you're lucky, just pull it off your head. (Seriousl,y go try gaming it out like I said. You'll see WHY the militry spend millions of dollar trying to figgure out how an enemy will attack every year.) As to the functions you presented for a hat, I could do all of those (and more) with tthe PROPER skin job killing tool, a HELEMT with face cover exceot cut it up (yes, I can even use it for protection form the sun). (Gee, did that get mentioned, EVER, I think it did...) And please don't get me started on your choise of long arms- A/C's already made it clear he's NOT going to allow me to go over that again. |
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5. RE: New guy.
Aug 17 2008, 12:19 PM EDT
Well, I never heard Skin Job refer to a zombie outside the wiki, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.And I never said thet can't grab the hat, you moron. I said the lanyard makes it easy to pull off. I don't really need it anyway because the hat is snug (not tight). So I decided to "game out" a "skinjob situation" and see if my girlfreind could keep the hat on my head while pulling it towards her. We tried it while standing, sitting, and with my limbs immobilized, and all it took was a nod of the head (I treid it again with a freind and on myself). I almost need to THANK you for suggesting this, because I discovered that with the tension on the hat, if a "SKINJOB ROFL OMG" is yanking on it and it comes off, he will fall on his ass when it comes off my head. This happend with a perfectly coordinated girl, and would certainy happen with a clumsy, uncoordinated zombie -- thereby giving me and ADVANTAGE in combat just by wearing the hat! As for my AK/47, I have shot both M16 series rifles and the AK/47, and the AK jams less often, is far easier to feild strip, fires a 7.62 round with much better stopping power than a 5.56, what jams there are are very easily cleared, usually just by cycling the action, it is extremely easy to feild strip for the worse jams, and it is not made of cheap plastic like the M16, AR or M4, so you can actually beat it up a little. I have an airsoft gun that is an *exact* replica of an M16, besides the mechanics of course, and I accidentaly shattered part of it yesterdy when I dropped it. It was a bad drop, admittedly, but nothing that would have happened with an AK47. I live near Fort Lois and I only know ONE soldier who would take an M16 series gun over an AK (I have asked several), and that whas my uncle, who served in Germany during the Cold War and never actually saw combat (or much dirt in his gun, for that matter). And there goes my character cap. |
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6. RE: New guy.
Aug 18 2008, 3:44 PM EDT
Well, I see you got SOMETHING on hats. Too bad it was the wrong lesson, but let's just move one.You are seriously telling me that pulling a pin, cover, bolt bolt carrier, and spring, is EASIER than pulling one pin, bolt, and bolt carrier? You ARE kidding aren't you? As to the jamming comaprision, under EQUAL operating conditions, they jam about the same and are cleared with the same level of dificulty (you just pull the bolt carrier). So how did YOU do so much worse? Your airsoft, however, is NOT an excat replica; The ones carried by US Militry forces are designed to KILL PEOPLE and break things, not for fun.;) As to opinions on the M-16 all I can tell you is another memeber of the site, Hell_Razor, is IN Iraq now and said the exact opposite. (It's probable the guys you talked to had bad expriences in Viet Nam, there was a powder change and some of Americans got killed because of it.) That was also over 30 years ago. As to the ammo, AR-15's can be chamber to the 5.56, 7.62, and dozens of other rounds without machining- Just replace the uppers (I actually have a 7.62 rifle and .357 pistol upper, I'm just waiting to get a lower). AK's can't. Personally, I'm looking forward to the Grendal (oh, MOMMA!). I am curios why you chose to rig the hat test by having your girlfriend HOLD the cover WHILE she tried to pull it off, at the SAME TIME (I suspect you meant to say something else, but then again, maybe that's EXACTLY what you meant- Maybe "Right Full Rudder" meant "RIGHT FULL RUDDER NOW!"). |
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7. RE: New guy.
Aug 18 2008, 6:12 PM EDT
Well I can see someone failed English in high school. I never said anything about: rudders, holding the cover on, trying to pull the hat off, or rigging the test. A zombie, according to you, would try and use the hat to pull ME towards HIM so he could munch on my brain, which I simulated in the test. If he tried to pull the hat OFF as you said my girlfreind was trying to do, he could no longer use the hat to pull me towards him, as it would be no longer attatched to my head (Tell me if I'm going to fast for ya). So logically a zombie would try to hold the hat on my head so he could comtinue to use it as a grip. This was what was done in the test, and I could get the hat off my head without my hands simply by nodding. If the zombie/girlfreind did not try and keep the hat on my head, it would only facilitate its removal. To your credit however, I did get munched on after the test... It was just below my head. And, yes, I am telling you that feild stripping an AK/47 is easier. The mechanism is very spacious inside of the weapon, as opposed to the cramed, complicated interior of an M16. It is far easier to strip the parts in the AK in an M16. In cas you failed math class as well, here is the arithmatic I use here: AK47: pin+cover+bolt carrier+spring=4 M16: pin+bolt+carrier=3 4-3=1 additional part to remove in the spacious, simple AK/47 mechanism (versus 3 in the claustrrophobic M16 mechanism). Q.E.D., bitch! |
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8. RE: New guy.
Aug 18 2008, 6:14 PM EDT
At the same time... different strokes I guess. You can just have fun with your little M16 as you stumble towards me, trying to eat my brain :) .
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9. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 1:24 AM EDT
"I never said anything about: rudders, holding the cover on, trying to pull the hat off, or rigging the test. A zombie, according to you, would try and use the hat to pull ME towards HIM so he could munch on my brain, which I simulated in the test. If he tried to pull the hat OFF as you said my girlfreind was trying to do, he could no longer use the hat to pull me towards him, as it would be no longer attatched to my head (Tell me if I'm going to fast for ya). So logically a zombie would try to hold the hat on my head so he could comtinue to use it as a grip. This was what was done in the test, and I could get the hat off my head without my hands simply by nodding. If the zombie/girlfreind did not try and keep the hat on my head, it would only facilitate its removal.Firstly, I got an A in English. Not that that's any of YOUR business. I've been respectful through this, and not NOT appreciate that kind of arrgant contempt. Let's move on. You siad, as best as I could read it (blame only yourself),. that you girlfriend hend th hat on WHIOLE pushing it away. That's rigging the test, both for success and FAILURE, at the same time,. That, is why I assumed you meant to say something else. As to the concept of eating brains- I didn't say anything about eating brains. I said the skin job would grab your hat and use that to hold on. If the hat comes off, well, that's YOUR good luck. A proper HELMET, however, is the only thing that will protect you from getting bitten. I see you've never actually feild stripped the 47 or the 16, and possibly both. Here's the REAL trick; The 47, you have to pull the cover, spring, and bolt pus carreir (you can keep the bolt and carreir together, of course). The 16, you have to pull the pin, the barrel swings down, you pull the bolt and carreir (again, togheter). Either weap, you just run the brush down the barrel and you're back in the fight (probably of your life). And, at least with the 16, you're actually gonna HIT what you shot at (a dirty littel secret about the 47 is it has up to a 15 degree "drift"; something to do with the much-overhyped "loose fitting" nature of the guts, though exactly what I can not pretend to know). And, uh, I have NO intention of eating your brains- But I WILL kill everything that tries to eat MINE. (What can I say, I love claymores0 a little TOO much). |
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10. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 2:59 AM EDT
Would you happent to be Barack Obama? because you keep changing your story on the nature of the gun. First, you said (or at least mad it sound like) it was far EASIER to feild strip the M16 that the AK because of 1 part. Now you say that "eaither weapon, you just brush down the barrel and you're back in the fight" like one is just as easy to strip as the other. And the "Dirtly little secret" you talk about has NOTHING to do with the loose fitting mechanism -- it's *ENTIRELY* because the barrel is positioned above the butt of the rifle, and therefor the application of force from the round being fired uses the lower butt as a fulcrum to move the gun 15 degrees upward. This would happen with the M16 as well, were the butt not in line with the barrel. Now, if you had read what I actually said in the paragraph, you would know thatI am using a BULLPUP rifle, which has the butt in line with the barell in the same way as the M16 -- therefore eliminating the problem. The barrel on my gun is actually slightly longer than the one on most M4s and M16s (which is OK due to its shortened length), so as long as you can adjust from the bullet drop from using the larger 7.62 round -- which you claim to use yourself. I don't see what's so hard about this hat thing. The zombie wants me closer, so he pulls on the hat, and tries to keep the hat on my head so he can continue to pull me with it. I want the hat off my head so the zombie can lo longer use it as a grip, so I nod my head and the hat comes off, likely sending the zombie onto his undead ass. This is the BEST CASE scenario for the Z, and the worst case for myself, with an unrealistically smart and coordinated zombie substitute being used. |
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11. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 3:03 AM EDT
And unto the respect issue, you said "at least you got ONE thing (in your gear) right," said "here's a peice of advice for you" like I was a four year old, and how many times did you say I must've been joking and wasn't serious? You yourself say that you have a tendancy to piss people off a lot! I mean, I was even making a freindly JOKE when I said you would be trying to eat my brain... something I thought would comet through with the SMILEY EMOTICON at the end. But no... |
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12. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 4:40 PM EDT
"I mean, I was even making a freindly JOKE when I said you would be trying to eat my brain... something I thought would comet through with the SMILEY EMOTICON at the end. But no...As to the joke, you’re right- I missed the smiley. That’s also not what I took offense at. Let’s move on to something productive. ¿Am I OBAMA? No. But then I never changed my story. Perhaps you are confused. “Field Strip” and “Clean” are NOT the same thing. You have to at minimum field strip the gun to clean it, but you DON’T have to clean it after field stripping it (you also have to strip it to make repairs, adjustments, etc- Adjustments to the M-2 are a bitch, especially adjusting the timing- The GM’s won’t even show me that). As to the 47’s drift, I can only repeat what the Russians themselves said. ¿Are THEY lying? I would hope not. Either way, the barrel being above the stock would only cause the weap to drift UP, not left/right, and CERTAINLY not DOWN (with the foregrip resting in the shooters hand). ¿So why would it drift down? Since you brought it up; ¿Which weap ARE you thinking? You see, the AK-Anything is NOT a bullpup design; “Bullpup” beans the mag is behind the grip and trigger assembly. There’s certainly not a damned thing wrong with the design, of course, or at least none I’m familiar with (admittedly, I’ve never fired a bullpup config weap). I personally am not aware of any Russian-designed weaps that use that config (and I am NOT an expert on all weaps Russian). And BTWm the 7.62 is NOT, in any way, my objection to the AK-Series. Hell, the M-240 is a 7.62, and I have every damned intention of getting my hands on a few if the occasion arises that I might need one. That, and spare barrels. And ammo, lots and lots of ammo… |
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13. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 4:40 PM EDT
Ok. So now I know where the communications breakdown on this push/pull thing; No, once the skin job’s got ahold of it, if it comes off easy, he’s probably gonna drop it, throw it at you/whatever (I doubt having your HAT thrown at you is going to be all that much of an injury, seriously, I mean really, ¿are you afraid of a hat? I know I’m not). So ‘pushing’ the hat was really an unnecessary step. Hey, get your girlfriend and try again. (I know I would if I were in your position… Not knowing your age, that’s probably as much as I should say in that direction, if you know what I mean.;))
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14. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 5:27 PM EDT
If I said she was pushing it ever, which I never did, it was a mistake -- she was pulling it. And I never said anything about cleaning the gun, either -- just that it could be feild stripped easily to clear bad jams. Cleaning is easy enough on both guns, considering you probably would be doing it outside of combat, in a safe location. And they make many guns in a bullpup configuration. The official Russian military rifle is not in one, but bullpup versions can be aquired fairly easily -- I've been eyeing one for a while now, actually, and its the same one I showed in the picture, just a normal AK 47 with the pistol grip moved up. Hell, you can reconfigure many normal rifles into a bullpup in just an hour or two, with the right tools. And I'm not aware of a 15 degree drift in any direction other than up, which is, once again, a product of physics, not mechanics. At least we sorted that out. And good luck getting lots and lots of ammo, with prices being what they are these days. |
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15. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 7:38 PM EDT
"If I said she was pushing it ever, which I never did, it was a mistake -- she was pulling it."See, that's what I figgured. More or less. Either way, that IS what it looked like you meant. Exactly, you said: "(S)ee if my girlfreind could keep the hat on my head while pulling it towards her." As to clearing a jam, well, it's have to be REALLY bad to have to strip it (even the fucking 240 with the shit-ass ammo didn't jam on me THAT badly), but should it happen, the 16 is still the better choice- You pull the pin, pull the bolt and carrier, and they'e less likely to get lost in the confusion. (Byates would know better than me, but I'm vaugely under the impression the M-14 was even better still in this respect. Of course, I could be wrong on that.) As to when to clean guns, I've seen rpts on BOTH that say that in REALLY LONG fire fights, the users had to run a brush through (ussually just a quick clear, get the heaviest creosote out to get the guns back to full auto/burst capable.) Most of the 47 rpts evolved in Afghanistan during the Russian war there, most of the American rpts were other Coasties (a specific schoolt they send PSU's to). Bear in mind, I'm talking run the brush down the barrel, haul it back, repate ONCE, slap the bitch down and FIRE AT WILL!!! I, uh, mean, return to action... As to waht you are or are NOT aware of, I can not help- You're warned, that's all I can do. "You are no able to make an INFORMED decision; Which one you make is your own mistake." )SK1, eat your heart out... Sorry, Boot Camp joke, I don't expect you to get it.) On THAT note, I believe OPTIONS empower USERS, and I LIKE power. Specifically FIREPOWER. So, any refernces for converting a standard rilfe to a bullpup config? (Maqybe I do it, maybe not, but I always like having OPTIONS.) Prices. Yes, that COULD be an issue. For some. |
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16. RE: New guy.
Aug 20 2008, 11:46 PM EDT
I also went back and looked over the comments a second time- It's pretty clear I could not possibly have taken offence at the brains thing, if I started talking about claymores. Nice try for a red herring, too bad it really didn't help you.
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17. RE: New guy.
Aug 21 2008, 3:38 AM EDT
Uh, I wasn't going for a red herring, it sounded like you were pissed off about it. And as for my sidearm... Really, go out and buy a Glock 21 right now. You followed my link, right? That thing kills what you point it at, period. No questions asked. This is about the time when I start bitching about California, but I guess if you're Coast Guard you can probably circumvent the backwards gun laws down there and handgun. Actually, could you settle something for me? Exactly whose dick does a guy gotta suck to get a right to carry permit down there? I won't even set foot in the state until I can deal with all the fucking gangs. |
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18. RE: New guy.
Aug 21 2008, 3:32 PM EDT
"Uh, I wasn't going for a red herring, it sounded like you were pissed off about it.As to the side arm; I didn't say it was a bad gun. (It's a GLOK for God's sakes!) But PURCHASE one? I think not... A, I barely have the money to keep my current guns (I may have to sell ANOTHER one), and B, I already have two pistols (an M-9 and a S&W 4006) that I have exprience with. As to the "Who's dick" comment, let me ask YOU- Which COUNTY did you try for the permit in? I got mine in a "northern" county. If I weren't a CA resident (drivers licence, voter reg, etc), though, I coun't have gotten one. (Althiouygh, truthfully, I CAN think of one county you would have to, and yes, it's THE county you're thinking of- Just because my UNIT'S there doesn't mean I have any other reason to be anywhere near 'that' place...) |
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19. RE: New guy.
Aug 22 2008, 5:31 PM EDT
And for your edification:http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Terms+and+Slang |
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20. RE: New guy.
Sep 4 2008, 3:14 PM EDT
"(A)ny refernces for converting a standard rilfe to a bullpup config? (Maybe I do it, maybe not, but I always like having OPTIONS.)"So uh, ¿you gonna answer my question or not? |
