I would like to extend an invitation. This invitation is to all residents of Colorado or whoever happens to be in the area when it goes down. Go to N38.526468 W-104.913125 its in Colorado Springs, CO on Fort Carson. It should be very apparent when you get there where to go. There is an entire town made of armored buildings with thick steel shutters and heavy swinging steel doors. There are tunnels in some to connect buildings. the buildings have strong steel doors to lock the tunnels. The main building we will be in is an embassy with three stories and a helipad on top. It is surrounded by a 12 foot concrete wall and razor wire. there are very few ways in. RULES: When you enter city limits walk calmly in a logical patten "single file or a marching formation" Unless your being chased then fire a few rounds off so we can get to quarters and start dropping hostiles. Please rid yourself of any infected followers before you come our way because you can hear a 240B from a very long way away, we don't want any attention. You should see some survivor "X" in red hanging from the building. If you don't see any indication that it is occupied then enjoy a fortress courtesy of the U.S. Government. Oh did I mention all the houses are furnished with dressers, beds, tables, chairs, desks, couches, love seats and other stuff? They are for room clearing and urban combat training.

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Terry Hills Estates is North west of Phoenix just off of Grand Ave. I've never been there myself but I've seen Airel photes "Google Maps" it apears to have what looks like it has a strip mine, Rv Park, and high end estates with pools. I have a ex-military friend who share my interest in being prepaired. He plans on going there with others and prepairing it for short term incampment. I plan on occuping a loctaion in the city and gathering supplys and then moving the supplys to the rendezvous.

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The ZSDW would greatly benefit from an actual location. Of course we would have to purchase land for this and pay taxes on that land. I propose the base be in America somewhere. It would probably be best to situate this base in America as over 60% of the wiki is from there. If we bought an empty field in a strategically defensible location against zombies, we could use one of the wiki's archiatects and everyone could contribute in its actual construction. We could have gun training, radio rooms, bedrooms for those staying long and short term. Let me know what you think. This is quite an ambitous idea after all.

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we all know that, unless it's some kind of nuclear radioactive sludge hits the fan scenario, trading of some sort will always be there. z-day is no different.

so what will be in the highest demand? how can we safeguard our stock from being stolen? what can we replenish without having to scavenge? these are all key questions that could possibly save our lives.

we all know guns and ammunition will be a staple of trade come z-day, but it wont be the one you can sell for the highest amount. a lot of people have suggested drugs, but anyone(except those on foot) can make drugs and alcohol(even walkers can make that).

porn and sex are ones that will get you VERY far. and you can replenish the amount of you have of each(except sex, if you care about your girls enough to give them condoms(i would) and if you have a camera, you can make copies of the porn, then sell the copies. and if your group has electricity, you can use digital cameras and then recharge them, thus destroying the need for film.

food is another, however it won't be very high in demand until people relize its all been scavaged. after that, its price will skyrocket.

services will essentially be the only way convoys will last,seeing as how they have huge,gaping weakness called fuel(followed by lack of space,hygiene(usually),land,food,rescouses,defensive capabilities(one raider could take your whole operation down too quick for you to fight back if he had a military sniper rifle.)essentialy,this is any act done for someone in exchange for some kind of reward.

but the one i feel will be worth the most: fuel. it will be incredibly rare,and as time goes on,that amount only goes down.cars are great zed killers and one of the fastest modes of transportation.they will no doubt be very popular.however,they require gas(unless you have one of those tesla motors cars,which you probably don't.)and as such,will make fuel a vital resourse.

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i am new to the and i was just wondering if there is anyone who has made a plan for the uk if not looks like i will have to ramp up mine and have a look at the floors of mine because i hope to post a plan that will suit near all towns in the uk ........... sop before i post mine i would like to have someone to brain storm with :) thanks

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Used for group operations
Distinct from BOL which seems to be(after reading several threads) for individual or family use.
An ORP may be a temporary meeting point or a long term but not permanant base

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the first thing u need to do win news of the infection has reached u is to gather food bottled water and rond up ur family and frends. but u should never go any were without at most 6 people and no less than 3 becase u will need them to cover your 6 and your 3,9 cloks at all times to maximis protection win not is a fortifide safe place not in the citiy but prbily in a small town with know more than 5000 people in it. for the simlil fact that you will not have at lest 1000-3millom zs to kill + you may be abel to take control of the town and fortify it 100% but with most of the homes fortified to maximis the survivel of the people with when the infection breaces the towns defence.(the modt importat thing of all defances is to have a small mobile transportation probily quades or dirt bikes. 2 at a time 4 tims a day within the defances of the fortified position one at 12:00am, one other at 6:am, 12:00pm 6:00pm to chek on the towers and the walls of the base in order to in form the living cominity of all posibel problems and to send orders to the seronding people of the zone so they can be prepared for the in coming hord/hords. the 8 towers defanses: the towers will be positiond in the 4 corners of the base and the other 4 will be in between the others. each tower will have 2 or 3 people in them to in sure thay are not bored to death and for them to care for each other and make shure thay have proper sleep and stay up all night with a silenst rifull so thay so do not interfere with the sleeping people in the cumunity thare are now living.)the food and water suplis there will be a well in the middle of the fort. all the land that is not being used will be farm land including the space in side there homes will be used for planting other etibil plande or spises.escape routs: thare will be 8 by 4 feet deep drences the conects to half of the homes. the trences will of cors be roft but not visible on the surface. thare will be a few places uder ground that stor food,

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Anyone planning implementing a Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics system or systems. What sources are you using to plan with? Do you plan on turning this into a business for your BOL? What breed of fish are you going to use for eating and etc? What vegetables and fruit are you considering in growing.

Even if you do not what aquaponics is, please join the conversation.

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I know most people on this site plan on getting out to a remote location at some point after Z-Day because staying in a city is a horrible idea. If you can't get to your BOL for some reason or if you don't have one, going to a smaller city or town might not be such a bad thing. Which begs the question of how big is too big?

Obviously cities like NYC, Chicago, LA, Baltimore, Atlanta and any other large metropolitan areas are out of the question. But what about smaller cities or towns with populations under say 20,000?

I feel that most people in these areas would flee or try to flee, leaving plenty of supplies behind without there being a ridiculous number of Zeds. Starting over in a small town or city would be easier than having to build from the ground up.

If you wanted to hole up or start over in a city or town, how big is too big?

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