I’m very new to the site but it seems every page is filled with questions regarding the .22LR and its ability as a zombie-hunting weapon. I personally love the .22 (light weight, can be silenced with a 2LT bottle, and magazines can hold a lot of rds.) although I do own an AK-47 and 9mm 1911.

I would like to run an experiment to finally prove or disprove the .22 abilities. Most of the debate goes into wither the .22 can penetrate a zombies head and at what range does it become ineffective. Unfortunately due to the high unemployment rate of Las Vegas I have a lot of time and ammunition on my hands and I need something to do!

I am planning on setting up targets at 50, 100, 200 and 300 yrds. I will be using a variety of rounds (subsonic, HP, FMJ, and high velocity). I need some input on what I should use for a human head analog? I’m no mythbuster, so ballistic jell and human skulls are out of the question ha. What would you all recommend I use? People have said coconuts, pig skulls, ect. Any other feedback, within legality, would also be greatly appreciated.

I will post pics and results once I get some feed back.

Thanks all,

Cameron

Hopefully we can end this debate once and for all!!!!

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I'm brand new to the forum, so my apologies if this sort of info has already been posted. But, I see the .22 round disparaged so much, that I feel I have to defend its merits:

I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a "primary weapon" in zombie defense, since there are at least three different tactical scenarios:

1. Set-piece defense
2. Close-quarters combat
3. Offensive assault

It is the first situation that I'd like to talk about. This is where you are sitting on top of your well-prepped, well-stocked, fortified encampment, eating your sandwich, rifle across your lap, loved ones down below playing cards, where you have to pick off the odd Zed that comes wandering through. You want something cheap, simple, reliable, quiet, easy to maintain, accurate, and that women and children can use.

The .22 long rifle is awesome in this situation.

Is a .22 round going to penetrate a zombie skull at 50 yards every single time? No. The good news is, however, that if you are well-practiced, calm, and disciplined with the weapon, a .22 round is going to HIT a zombie skull nearly every time at 50 yards. With a bolt-action model, you should be able to get off a clean shot about every 2 seconds. And if you prepped properly, you should have literally tens of thousands of rounds at your disposal.

A larger, center-fire rifle will also do this job, and be a more reliable kill, but at the following cost: ammo that is at least 20x more expensive, report that that is way, way, WAY louder (thus attracting the attention of other undead), and the recoil is such that it is unsuitable for children or smaller-framed women to use.

The .22 rifle is extremely accurate; even a novice shooter can learn to make a head shot at 25 yards in a short period of time. It is an "everyman weapon" that can be used to build an impromptu "anti-horde posse."

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Reading a story where the hero improvised some armor from washers and iron wire. Butted the washers together and used the wire to tie them together. Seem to me it would provide protection against bites and some sharp objects.

Lead to further thought about what other materials could be used.
Car floor mats would provide bite protection and limited cut protection, doubtful on stab protection. Cut to fit.
Tire for a fixed position, fill with sand, gravel, dirt. Stack as high as desired, brace as necessary. Bolt together for ramming protection. Two rows, offset from each other to get rid of the weak point where they butt together.
Other idea?

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Purpose: Killing mass z hordes and prevent casualties.
Overall Weight: Dunno just total the heck out of it
Mobility:
Clothing: Leather Vest with white cotton shirt inside, Denim with leather modificatios
Weapons: Primary, P90 Fabrique Nationale SMG and or AK47 Burst, full auto and semi auto mod+laser dot sight and custom stock+sights for sniping. Secondary, Glock 20 and or UZI w/ ext mags. Melee, Machete or knife (anything)
Web Gear: Tactical swat vest (if i find any) or dragon skin vest or light kevlar.(all with pockets) Bandoiler
Pack: Light pack capable of carrying essentials, an ammo pack, and weapon holder(built in)
Footwear and Gloves: Nike Running shoes(black and o gloves
Protective Gear: Dragon skin armor, Tactical SWAT vests leather vest and pants, Tactical Helmet, Gas Mask (SAS Marine issue)
Special Gear: Ext Mags med kits laser dot sight, scopes, gun modding kits Uranium Bullets (ok this is still in debate for its existence so just..... nevermind)

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while you're waiting for the ATF to clear your paperwork for a suppressor? Maybe I could use the time to track down a threaded Five-seveN barrel? Maybe put some money into a movie quiet Ruger with felt buffering?

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Shot a S&W M&P 45c, and an M&P40, the M&P45C is a great gun for what it is designed for, concealed carry, and the M&P 40, I LOVE THIS GUN, best shooting I've ever done with a handgun(7 years worth of shooting) 50 rounds,15 yards. ALL within the chest of the target paper( including shots through the same hole.) My next gun is going to be an M&P40c, for concealed carry.

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It's a lot better for precision rifles to use a single hardened steel rod. It cost a little more then the aluminum peices but over time aluminum can get scratched and have grit embed in it. This can scratch your rifleing in the barrel to hell and cause the rifle to miss at 50 yrds.

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Tomahawks also come in handy

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I'm bringing up a handgun that I'm sure will get no respect from the 20 rnd. mag crowd. Hell with S&W revolvers that chamber 8 rounds and can be speed loaded in no time I doubt they'll get much love from the revolver guys either.

Single action revolvers are rarely used anymore except by handgun hunters and cowboy action shooters. They are painfully slow to reload and are bulky.

Here is what I admire about them. After generations of new designs and improvements in astetics of handguns no handgun "points" like a single-action revolver. A well made SA is balanced perfectly. I like semi-autos and the practicality of them but to me handling one is like handling a brick.

A Ruger SA with an eight inch barrel and a scope is impressive in its ability to land hits downrange. When you c*ck that hammer your trigger is very light and they fire crisp with no creep.

I'd carry one even with all its drawbacks although I might also carry me a "brick" in a shoulder harness just for the sake of numbers. Six well placed shots made by a experienced shooter are worth as much as twenty herky jerky shots made by a mall ninja.

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I assume many of you know this but when you have a drop leg platform mount it high on your thigh, don't be like Jolie from tomb raider, you know( having the drop legs droop on your knees......). I'll get very fatiguing if you mount the drop leg low.....

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