Although you think you know what places are good already, what do you think of the following?

1. The hospital
2. A military base
3. Wal-Mart
4. Your own house
5. A church
6. A mountain
7. An off-shore oil rig
8. A skyscraper
9. Home Depot
10. I choose suicide
11. Retirement home
12. Jail / Prison / Police station

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Which one would you pick? What is the worst one(s)? Do you think you could survive in these places?

I think the military base, the off-shore oil rig, the prison, and your own home are best.

You probably have supplies and know the layout of your home.

The prison is safe as long as the prisoners are not running free.

The military base has soldiers, weapons, and vehicles, but they may accept people who are infected.

The off-shore oil rig already has tons of supplies and will be safe since zombies can't climb. Also, the off-shore oil rig has fire fighting equipment and boats in case you have to evacuate. However, the off-shore oil rig will rust, corrode, and possibly sink into the sea.

The hospital and the church are the worst.

The hospital will be overrun within the first day or so if the infection starts in your area. Also, they probably won't have good security and have many entrances that open automatically.

The church will be filled with people who listen to idiots over the radio and religious fanatics who think it will all go away and will sacrifice people (AKA you!).

A skyscraper will be of no use unless you have ample supplies, barricade yourself in, and stay on the roof.

Home Depot can be easily barricaded, has weapons inside, and also has food and water.

Wal-Mart will be filled with many people and will be looted for its supplies by raiders who kill anyone in their way.

The retirement home doens't have much that you will need, other than seasoned veterans of war.

A mountain will be great if you can climb it and it isn't too cold. So Mount Everest and the Himalayas are ruled out. Climb a local mountain with a good rifle and shoot at any nearby zombies to protect the local citizens. Zombies lack coordination and climbing ability, so there probably won't be very many zombies who can even get to you.

Suicide is never a good option unless many Zack get in your fortress or you are bitten..

Please list some other places where the option of staying in is debatable.

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CALOSZ+
Best place for me: The military base cause a soldier( my school has a army cadet program)(2nd year 2008 corporal go to base regularly so i know the layout)
It will have weapons supplies and vehicles s its a good place. Try too get a couple of friends to help defending it.
2nd best and etc"
1. Your own house: Good choice barricade it at u are able to survive. Need additional room no prob. If you live in a joined house(Trees) BLOW YOUR NEIGHBOR WALL AND USE THEIR HOUSE IF BUNGLOW TOO BAD!) Get etiantial and set trap and your good too go/stay.
2. Wall Mart. Have food Drinks and weapons (lucky, security guards with guns unlucky civilians weapon like baseball bat and other blunt objects) Problem is power might go off. (all will unless every place have generaters)
3. Mountain. Not a bad place but must learn survival skill (better watch man v.s. wild. Hehehe)
4. Home Depot And Church. Not a bad place but barricading not that good and supplies wont last you a week if u hope that it will )
Worst place
5.Skyscrapers and off shore rig: not good.
-Oil rigs are good but food, power, and sometimes there are hurricanes and big waves will destroy some parts of the rigs. so how are we to maintain it unless we work there. To people who work that is a good choice for u 60% survival 40% death for you. Civilians 60% death 40 Survival.
-Skyscrapers no good... Food needed don't tell you guys want to eat knick knacks or twisters everyday do you.
Suicide. I cannot tell you what to do. IF u cant stand the pain then suicide but if u want to live than live your choice. 4 me i will survive and see the whole thing true and help when ever can. If i cant stand the suffering I will commit suicide. But better save it last you might not know there could be a cure.








SuperSoldierRCP
Best Place-Skyscraper Worst Place-Public Services (hospital, police/fire station)

1. The hospital-NO NO NO NO NO at first the zombification will be classified as a sickness then spread
2. A military base - AGAIN NO the base will be on full alert and the last thing u want is zombies or soldiers coming at you in military uniforms and vests
3. Wal-Mart- NO wait a few weeks then go to Wal-Mart because at first people will rush there for supplies and it only takes one zombie
4. Your own house- depends on how well you ready
5. A church- RELIGIOUS FANATICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. A mountain- good but u need to know how to survival as a good friend once said hot dogs and smores get old fast if that's all you know how to cook.
7. An off-shore oil rig- good but the only thing people forget it crude oil has to be refined
8. A skyscraper- a good choice in my opinion there are not too many ways up, plenty of floors, and you only have to watch the elevator shafts and stairs
9. Home Depot- See W-Mart

one place you didn't mention was a school. I'm holding up in a High School, they have almost everything you need from the get go

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Hospitals: A hospital might be an early-phase infectious hot-spot, but after about 18 hours the majority of the skin jobs will have wandered off. The upside is there could be a great deal of material of great use to you; The downside is you probably could not HOLD your position, and would be best-profited to salvage as much as you could, then load it all up into a couple of ambulances and bug out.
Military Bases: A militry base will not be an early stage hot-spot; Unfortunately, the only thing there of any value is fuel and possibly some food (MRE’s really aren’t that bad but DON’T EAT THE EGGS!); One might, maybe, find ordinace as well. A good pit stop, but that’s all.
Wal-Marts and related buildings: Not a bad choice, at least you’ll have a LOT of food- For the time it lasts. But defiantly NOT a permanent base. Six months, then you’d best be looking for a new home. (6 months, however, is a LONG time in a siege.)
Your own house: Definitely just a week-long holdout; After a week, if you haven’t moved on, you’re probably going to die. Best to risk the skin jobs and run, than to stay and die of starvation (think “Andy’s Gun Shop”).
A church: Actually, after the initial massive skin job breakout, a chapel may well be a good place to hold up; If you can cover the windows, you could physically hold out indefinitely, provided you had food- Which most chapels don’t have, or very little of. Therefore, bring as much as you can.
A Mountain: Well, I suppose you could build a little cabin on some overgrown molehill somewhere. But the skin jobs, if they know you are there, WILL get in eventually, unless you build a PROPER defensible perimeter.
An off-shore oil rig: Really, a bad choice; I know Max BROOKS sung it’s praises, but that’s because he’s a comedian. First, you have no food (if you really think you can fish enough to sustain you, you’re suicidal). Second, you have a real probability (not possibility, probability) of critical failure leading to either sinking or fire, either way, you’re gonna die. Do not even contemplate it.
For more information of the stupidity of holding out at an oil rig (or ANY maritime “solution”), CLICK HERE.
A skyscraper: If you can fortify the first two floors (completely), a skyscraper might actually serve as an ideal holdout- And staging base for later cleansing and recolonization.
Home Depot and related buildings: Not a good choice; While they will have a massive abundance of building materials and supplies, they will not have ANY food (it’s not like you can eat wood), and you will starve. Salvage as much as you can, then bug out.
Suicide: It’s better to die trying, than to try dying- Suicide is an option you should save until you get bit.
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Cylon1994
Hospitals - would be the worst. Duh
House - would be my first choice. I mean I'm there a lot (Counting when I'm asleep) However it depends on what kind of house you have. I would prefer a 2/3 story house. That way I can absolutely cut off the upstairs from the downstairs. It also depends how the house is laid out. If it's one of those Colonial houses only found in the Eastern parts of America then I'm probably dead. But the more modern houses from the 90's to today are pretty good with their separate rooms and some of them even carry security systems which are more reliable than listening for a broken window.
Church - This place would be good for the spiritual types. The bleachers could be rearranged. And assuming your in a large church they usually have lot's of locks and security systems. A church would be good for a large group because it will be hard to guard. However there are no personal generators or things of that sort. However it will raise moral for the spiritual types.
Military Base - Probably meant for the Military. It is too large and many Military Bases are not fit for civilians.
Wal-Mart - Not a place I would go unless I'm stocking up. Mainly because EVERYONE wants to go there so if I go there too it'll just add to the confusion and then there will be people who want to come with me. I would wait a good few months before going to Wal-Mart or Costco or anywhere like that.
A Mountain - This would the 2nd worst place to go. No water, no electricity, no food (Unless you hunt) and it would be very very hard to establish shelter that would withstand the forces of high elevation such as wind. And assuming your on a volcano there is the chance of eruption but more importantly Gases will be toxic and there will earthquakes a lot.
An Oil Rig - I don't know how'd you get there. But once you did it would an ideal location. I personally wouldn't go there because I dislike water. I have a phobia of deep water. Plus I would probably die of boredom.
Skyscraper - Elevation is always good only when your so far up that you lose all chance of getting down then your gonna have some problems. You will have to destroy the stairs up the roof thus ensuring you won't get down. How will you get food? When it rains you might be able to catch some of it. Also when your so high up the chance of a collapse is always a risk. After a few years the building will deteriorate then your screwed.
Home Depot - Where you go to stock up for your fort. NOT WHERE TO MAKE A FORT. Home Depot is there for Civilian Peace Time use. It may be attractive due to it's Cement Bunker Like exterior. However the glass is easily penetrated. Also Industrial Accidents can occur easily with untrained civillians
Suicide - Suicide is the cowards way out. Only resort to suicide when it will reasonably save someone else. In an undead world we'll need everyone we can get.

byates - Noticed a possible site, not widely available however. Near here there is part of an abandoned bridge, new bridge built, old bridge had the ramps removed leaving the center section. Now this is not just any bridge, it was designed so the center section could be raised so boats and barges could pass under it. It has a lot of iron high in the sky with control rooms at each end. To get in you either have to climb or have someone pull you up, and it would require some balance to go from one side to the other.
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tbhergert's 1st Choice

A Prison - My first choice, assuming the inmates and officers were either evacuated or dead. Even if they were all skin jobs, there would be the occasional infected officer in the halls, everyone else would be locked up, it'd be like shooting fish in a bucket. Plenty of food stocked up, assuming it's as big as some of the ones I've seen. Made for keeping unwanted guests out, and keeping you in, unless you know how to work the doors/gates. Most even have a library, so you can kill time. They'll even have several sniper towers if you want to practice your aim.

Thrawn5: I would personally go with the mountain...
The hospital: This is one of the worst places to go, this is where a good amount of the uneducated people will go as they will think that the Hospital will have a cure.
A military base: This selection would be OK, there will be lots of people who will think the same thing so you might be turned away. Go here if you have nowhere else to go, it is better than nothing (hopefully).
Wal-Mart:Why would this be a bad place to go? True, people will go there for food, but this place is easily barricaded, has guns (depending where you live), and shelter so that you can set up camp on the roof.
Your own house: This all depends on your location and preparation, I will add nothing to this because the list would be way too long.
A church: Not the worst of places, defiantly not the best place either. Depending on what sort of church you go you wont be sacrificed (In most Christian churches that stopped about 1970 years ago), there will still be the people who will want divine intervention in the matter and go there for support.
A mountain: One of my personal favourites, if you go above the snowline you will have few worries about zombies at night, you will have scant rations unless you figure something out though...
An off-shore oil rig: Many supplies, lots of fuel, zombies cant swim. This is a good place to go for a year or so, any longer and then you will have to go looking for supplies.
A skyscraper: This all depends on the skyscraper. Does it have food? Does it have water? Can you block all access to the ground floor and still get down without having a risk of looters and zeds? Can you grow your own food on the roof? Do you have weapons?
Home Depot: This place has too many door in my opinion, you can hide on the tops of the racks and try to make you own "shelf top fortress". You wont have many weapons once the power goes out (and the generators there need gas).
I choose suicide: Don't do this unless you are bitten and pose a threat to your companions, take as many zombies with you as you can.

The Professional: I agree with most everything on this list. These are all good reason to stay away from these locations. But rather than talk about why all these places are bad for this and that reason...why don't we make a check list that makes a location a bad choice. If the location in question cannot fulfill enough of these pre-reqs. or at least the more important ones, then its a bad locale. Or at the very least a location you should spend as little time as possible inhabiting.

Check List
1) Ease of entry-How easily can you enter the building? The more easily you can enter the building the more easily anyone may enter. Although you must be able to enter the building with little obstruction for it to be of any use.

2)How easily can you defend your entrance?-This applies to Item 1. Its important that you can easily enter the building but you must be able to defend it once inside. Can you quickly fortify the door once you get inside?

3)Internal to External Visibility-How well can you see the outside world from your structure? Running inside a building with no windows or windows you can't see from...may as well be your coffin. The ability to effectively view outside allows you to position watchmen and snipers.

4)Does the structure provide anything of use?-Generators, plumbing, barricade material, food etc. What does the building provide you for your survival?

5)Renewable resources-How long can you maintain the supplies either your or what the building as provided. Can you create your own resources from what is provided? This would lengthen the time you would be able to spend inside the structure.

6) Ease of escape-Once you have to leave how easily can you leave? In the event of an emergency how easily can you escape? Are there safe routes away from the location? How many are there?

7)Internal congestion-Is the interior cluttered to the point that mobility is limited? Can this be used to your advantage or is it more of a disadvantage? Can the interior environment be moved around to suit your needs?

8)General Location-What is the environment around the structure like? City? Urban? Rural? Depending on the general location will alter how each one of the others are judged.

These are just a few ideas for what should be taken into consideration. What do the rest of you think?


Jordan9014
hospital- i would personally stay away until had a good crew that was prepared for anything and we really needed something in there.
military base- most i would stay away from for obvious reason, but i do know of an abandoned military base that was used for bombing practice so it has about a dozen underground bunkers, it is still own by the govt. but has been out of action since the 70's.
wal-mart- same as hospital.
own house- Probably the place you best on the list so it depends on your own reasoning. Personally i couldn't stay for more than 2 to 3 days.
church- not much more than house it all comes down to the scenario your in.
mountains- unless your familiar with the land i would stay away, there's nothing worse than being surrounded be zombies and not knowing were to go.
oil rig- hard to reach but if you get there could be safe hoping that no ones already infected.
skyscrapper- all comes down to how you barricade yourself in and them out, under barricade they get in and get you (unless you have a fail safe) over barricade and if you need something may have hard time getting out.
home depot- pretty much same as wal-mart and hospital.
one not on the list but i saw some people mention it was a school. that's my place to go. four buildings with 20 ft high metal and brick fences between them, plexi glass windows and doors, huge courtyard between buildings and fences impossible to get in to from outside (I've tied) and fertile grass that has vegetables already growing and two cows and a dozen chickens furnished by our agriculture program. solar powered generators and lights on campus and around (individually solar powered) everything you need to sustain life and start over. and plus the school I'm talking about (my school) is less than a mile from a huge lake and is 30 minutes from the city.



Zuzak:
Hospital- in addition to probably being the source of the outbreak, if you catch something and get sick, its more of a problem than normal.
Wal-mart- It'll probably be looted pretty quickly, but if you're fast and/or live near one, you could beat the rush and get tons of supplies. Staying there is a pretty bad idea though, because if you get there before the looters, you have to defend against them, and if you get there afterwards, they probably took everything useful already.
Military Base- Unless they try to contain the outbreak, this is a pretty good choice
Church- No particular strategic value, but not that much worse than anywhere else. I don't know what that guy was talking about stopping the sacrifices, though. I mean, do you want the sun to die?
Mountain- A pretty good choice, good defense, probably not high of a population, so less zombies. As long as you have some basic survival skills, and the mountain has a good source of food, you should be able survive long enough to learn better ways to survive.
House- probably not a good idea. If you leave quickly, you might be able to escape before the zombies spread, but if you wait until you run out of food, you'll have more zombies and no food to take with you.
Off-shore Oil rig- seems pretty safe to me, but I don't really know. The last thing you want is to be on something surrounded by water with zombies on it. Oh wait, that's the second to last thing...
Skyscraper: Deathtrap. If you're planning on getting relief within a week it could work, but if not, you'll starve to death. The worst possible place you could be is on a skyscraper in the middle of a zombie infested city.
Home Depot- see wal-mart, although wal-mart is a better place to loot because of food.
Suicide- This is obviously the best plan. There's no way the zombies can kill you if you're already dead!

Original-Sin:
The best places to go in my person opinion are as such, Sky-Scraper, Oil Rigs, and Your own home.
The worst places to go in my personal opinion are any public service buildings (hospitals, churches, stores).
WHY?
Sky-Scrapers: These offer all the room you AND your entire colony will need to survive. As long as the zombies cant climb, all you need to do is destroy/clog all stairwells on atleast the first two floors. Food and Ammo will have to be acquired before you chose this location.
-Oil Rig: The main arguement agaisnt these are that they are dangerous. I love the idea, not for crude oil (which is almost worthless in it's state) but for having a large platform on the water, away from the skin jobs... as long as they cant swim.
Your own home: If your on this page, you should know (or soon know) the value of preparing yourself ahead of time. If you have done this properly, you should have plenty of seeds, food, and weapons. You should be at your house the majority of the time, so you dont need to travel. You also know the lay out and are comfortable in your own home.

Public Service Buildings: Although they offer all the supplies you will need (and you might need to stop at one) they are going to be swarming with people, or zombies. Good to stop by, but not the place you need to hold up in.

Resident Magnum

Hospital

bad place to go is a hospital anyone who is hurt will be there and count on many if not all of them being bit or vunrable to attack to zombie outbreak. there will be people who may already be dead those in the morgue. there will be many who are about to die the people in ICU or intesive care unit, the burn unit, the elderly, cancer patiens.

Assisted living / manged care (old folks home)

It is highly possibly anyone who dies bitten or not will become a zombie, bewhere of the sick, dying, elderly!!!!!

Police station / Jail / Prison

is another bad place as becuase of the packed amount of people if the cell mate dies then any inmate could be lunch