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| NotAlice | Information Necromancy | 11 | Oct 1 2011, 10:57 PM EDT by poke2000 | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 11 2011, 12:25 PM EDT
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Back in the mists of antiquity, there were these things called books and they were good. And in these books were esoteric things called references. With these a person could learn more detailed information on many topics. Ah, heck, what I'm saying is that there is gold in them-thar libraries. Case in point:
Some people are old enough to remember when survivalists worried about nuclear war(anyone who grew up during the Cuban Missle Crisis!) and the books from then were geared toward that issue. Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearney was very sought after for it's solid research. Among it's references is a paper on feeding folks after a nuclear war. At the time, I had to order a copy from the Feds and some bugger walked off with it a year or two later. Well, today I got to thinking about that paper and pulled up a copy of NWSS online to see if it was still around. http://www.survivalring.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Maintaining-Nutritional-Adequacy-During-A-Prolonged-Food-Crisis.pdf And it was. Free, downloadable, printable. It's about using available resources to feed a devastated country using expedient means. There's info on fireless cooking, filtering water, sprouting, and various nutritious ways of keeping a countrywide population fed. Is this useless because it came out in 1979? I wonder what other goodies are lurking in those older books, what do you think?
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| Mountain_Stork | finding wild food and my questions | 12 | Aug 12 2010, 9:52 AM EDT by Agrippa | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 4 2009, 12:36 PM EST
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pine needles provide a fair amout of vitamin c and can stave off scuvy if you are living off of mostly meat
every part of the cattail is edible and the pollin can be used to make decent no hassle pankakes if you are planning on living off animals keep in mind that carnavores and scavangers may have eatend a twice dead zombie so you may want to avoid them or at the very least avoid the digestive organs and surrounding tissue only eat animals you find dead as a last resort especally if it appears that they were not killed by something else odds are they died of a deases and there is a good chance that you could get it either by ingestion or in the process of skinning and gutting the animal bubonic plauge is precent in the southwest u.s. and it is the last thing you want If you see bear grills do it you usually want to do the exact opposite, especailly the parts that are in his commercails those stunts are pulled around a trained medical staff and are used to attract veiwers the man is full of himself, steve O from jackass could give you more advice on whats edible and not poisinous than he could. the best show for finding out what is actually edible in the wild is probly survior man or any thing on the travel channel about primitive or third world cultures. urinating is your bodys way to flush exess salts and toxins from your body the concentration of these things will be higher if you are dehydrated your piss will contain almost as mush salt as sea water by the time you are thirsty enough to consider drinking it and you dont want that going back into your body. my questions is it possible to grind the grains of wild grasses into edible flour? are pidgions meat eating scavengers or do they just stick to plant matter and human trash?
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| LordSod | Growing food/storing food. | 11 | May 4 2010, 1:24 PM EDT by JPTank | ||||
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Thread started: Apr 24 2010, 4:39 PM EDT
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Theres an error on this page, where it says use canned foods within a year.
many canned foods have use-by dates of many years, and a lot of canned foodstuffs can be used several dozens of years later. of course dry foods are also very good.. rergarding livestock, it is much more efficient to eat the vegetables that you would use to raise livestock. i love meat as much as anyone but unless you had plenty of crops to spare, using it to feed animals isn't a good idea. a field would be ideal, but you could also grow in an urban setting. if i had a lot of people, id get a large building such as a school/office block for example, with a large roof and make it secure.. also more room indoors. a school will have a fenced-off perimiter already, but barricaded windows +further/extended perimeters would be preferable. I'd use the roof to grow as many different crops as i could, if neccessary and if i had means to generate power, hook up the apropriate lighting to feed the plants if they were struggling. also some kind of pump to water would be needed, or a lot of labour. most fruit + veg seeds can be found in garden centres, as can soil. failing that just dig up as much soft soily earth as you can find. you could use a whole range of stuff to as fertillizer also a roof could be a permenant post for a lookout, an early warning for a perimeter breach.
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| DarthJ | Even mouldy bread is useful. | 0 | Apr 30 2010, 5:05 AM EDT by DarthJ | ||||
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Thread started: Apr 30 2010, 5:05 AM EDT
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Its true. Mouldy bread is useful as a an antiseptic. The ancient Egyptians used it. Its a very simple process. Wrap the mouldy bread around the wound. So, don't chuck out that mouldy bread. Add it to your medical supplies.
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| Gummbearyyz | I know this will make everyone cringe but... (page: 1 2 3) | 41 | Apr 24 2010, 5:49 PM EDT by PedroAsani | ||||
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Thread started: Jun 25 2008, 12:22 AM EDT
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Bugs. Grubs, grasshoppers, ants, even cockroaches (my mom claims that I ate a cockroach when I was 11 months old) anyway, a pound of oatmeal can't last you very long, but put a bunch of grubs in it, a slice of potato or apple for water (switch out the slice every week or so unless you want to start growing mold) and you can either eat the grubs live or you can kill, bake, and crush them into insect flour, you can put that into most foods or put it on salad or soups, or meat of course, (but remember, despite its name insect flour can't be used as a substitute for flour)
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| 182crazyking | My Family are Brown Thumbs | 10 | Apr 14 2010, 12:23 PM EDT by kinelta | ||||
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Thread started: Apr 13 2010, 6:38 PM EDT
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Hiya! It's your friendly neighborhood Crazyking again with a friendly neighborhood question. Well, part of my plan (and most plans) involves growing food with seeds (Found at Home Depot). The only problem is that my faimly can't grow anything except weeds and dead grass. Does anyone reccomend a certian type of fertilizer or nutreint or something to help us grow food post-zed?
And to Pedro, who I knew is going to link the Panic when I said Home Depot, think of this: people will be scrabbling to get any item that will help them. during the panic. Food, water, guns - they go flying off the shelves, but extra things like beach tubes or seed packets will go unnoticed by the masses.
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| LagAvenger | Eat zombies? (page: 1 2) | 23 | Apr 9 2010, 8:29 AM EDT by Valdsar2217 | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 3 2010, 1:57 AM EST
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I'm sure its been asked before and will be asked again. Can you eat a zombie? Assuming you bag yourself a recently deceased, not a rotten zombie, can you boil the zombie meat enough, or smoke it to be zombie jerky? Understanding this would be a dangerous process, and even the slightest bit of uncooked zombie meat could make your want to eat your buddies. But I would assume you'd ingest just as much zombie blood-mist if you were beating one with a bat.... maybe I should invest in painter's masks
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| byates | Trapping | 14 | Jan 15 2010, 9:25 AM EST by Frag-12 | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 31 2008, 11:30 PM EDT
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Don't forget trapping as a way of obtaining protein. Trap pigeons in the city, also rats, mice, etc. Don't have to worry about feeding them, just lure them in. They will probably be over-running the place anyway. Wonder if they would eat Zed?
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| SurvivalSniper | Honey | 15 | Jan 12 2010, 10:32 PM EST by Johnny3000 | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 15 2009, 11:16 PM EDT
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| jjd7 | z-day | 0 | Jan 12 2010, 7:20 PM EST by jjd7 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 12 2010, 7:20 PM EST
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nice! but maby add some charts on how long some plants take to fully grow.
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| bamoh | Breakfast Anytime | 6 | Aug 23 2009, 10:28 PM EDT by kyallroad | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 23 2009, 4:58 PM EDT
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If you don't know what these are, they are pouches of powder that when you add them to milk, they can be used as a meal replacement. Come Z-Day could these be used even if you don't have any milk (use water) or do they need the milk to give you the proper nutritional value? Just wondering...
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| Tuck-Duck&Roll | Food ideas (page: 1 2 3 4) | 73 | Jun 14 2009, 10:11 PM EDT by StrykerPez | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 30 2008, 9:10 PM EDT
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1) Storing food for years is mucho expensive, unless you like oatmeal, rice & beans and ramon noodles. At most the average joe can afford a years worth (or two).
2) Raiding stores would be hit or miss, not to mention dangerous. 3) Live off the land, no way. At least not for me, I know I'm not Daniel Boone. 4) I like the idea of growing my own food. More than likely I'd go the Pilgrim route and work on squashes, beans, carrots, pumpkins, corn, potatoes, etc. Concentrate on foods that dry or store well. I'd raise chickens, goats and rabbits if at all possible. 5) Hunting would only work for so long. 6) Raising fish like Talapia in large tanks or swimming pools. (kind of like how they do it on fish farms, but where to get the food to feed the fish?)
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| superomgj | fish food | 2 | Jun 13 2009, 4:00 AM EDT by StrykerPez | ||||
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Thread started: Jun 13 2009, 12:06 AM EDT
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a really easy way to fead fish would be to kill a fish or two every once in a while and remove th scale and teh head and grind the rest up into a paste flatten it out and let it dry.. warning do not salt the fish or add any chemicals.....
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| andyroo89 | self heated soup? (page: 1 2) | 23 | Mar 31 2009, 3:40 PM EDT by inu-dude25 | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 27 2009, 12:07 AM EDT
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A year or so ago I saw some company made self heating soup like you break this seal or something and these two chemicals react and causes the soup to heat up do they make these anymore or did they discontinue it?
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| GhengisKhan53 | another food that doesnt perish | 9 | Mar 27 2009, 9:52 PM EDT by 3DayAsylum | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 27 2009, 1:54 AM EDT
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honey never does and its a natural antibiotic.....tastes great.....very good for you as well all and all great item to have in an apocalyptic world
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| DevilNuts | Eating Pets? (page: 1 2) | 29 | Mar 14 2009, 4:16 AM EDT by wolf4her | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 2 2009, 1:14 PM EST
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Something occurred to me while discussing how to find food in a city environment:
There are thousands of pounds, pet stores and animal shelters all over the country. Those animals are locked up and doomed to a slow painful death.... unless we break in, kill them and eat them. It won't make you feel like a good person, but it will keep you alive. Besides, all of those animals are going to starve in their cages, and they wouldn't do much better in the wild if we were to let them all go. I say keep feeding them, keep a few good dogs (man's best friend) and eat the rest. Hey, they do it in other countries... Thoughts?
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| mkxlng63 | Seeds | 0 | Mar 14 2009, 12:57 AM EDT by mkxlng63 | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 14 2009, 12:57 AM EDT
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For those of you who want seeds for the years after, this seems to be a great place to get a supply.
http://www.survivalistseeds.com/ |
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| CyprusBill | Raising Rabbits for food? (page: 1 2) | 23 | Mar 2 2009, 3:58 PM EST by DevilNuts | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 5 2009, 5:43 PM EST
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Given the notorious rapid reproduction rate of rabbits, what are yall's thoughts on say, trapping a good number of rabbits (for a wider genetic stock) and raising them in a controlled environment? After a handful of generations, one should have a self reproducing source of nice, lean meat and protein.
Sure it would take resources to feed them, but rabbits eat a range of grasses, weeds, leaves, shoots, twigs as well as the bark of shrubs, bushes and trees. Easy enough to obtain. If you couple the rabbit-farm idea with a garden, using their droppings to help as fertilizers, then you could well have a source of food that might just last for a good while. This might not be an idea one could implement in a typical urban area, but in, say, a rural area (like where I live), I'm thinking it might not be that impossible. Might take a few generations to get it right, but who knows.
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| Happyman0 | Morality Question (page: 1 2) | 36 | Mar 2 2009, 1:08 PM EST by DevilNuts | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 27 2008, 10:26 PM EST
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Is it immoral to get food at my local food bank and then stash it away in my Bunker?
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| Survivor_Gill | Consumption Timeline | 8 | Feb 20 2009, 11:38 PM EST by DaveBall | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 20 2009, 8:08 PM EST
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The idea is to set up some kind of detailed and succinct depiction of how to go about prioritizing existing food supplies and how to manage your food in a way so that you are not loosing food to expiration, but also that you're not prematurely using foods that can help you extend your existing supply.
Obviously it will be a time line of some kind, but how to we go about collecting a compendium of data like that? Let's get brainstorming.
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