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Intoxication In a Post Z-Day World
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So, Intoxication. Let's first look at the dictionary definition of the word:
In-tox-i-ca-tion (in tok se key shun): Verb
1. inebriation; drunkenness
2. an act or instance of intoxicating
3. Overpowering exhilaration of the mind or emotions
4. Pathology
Intoxication, by the use of alcohol and certain drugs, I believe will be great aid in raising the morale of survivors in any fortress. Cannabis, not only as a drug, but as a plant, can aid very greatly in the growth of food, cotton, and other helpful plants. Both Cannabis and marijuana will be legal in my fortress, in the event that Z-Day comes, and in the even greater event that I am the leader of a fortress. Now I'll break down the reasons for Cannabis being a helpful plant.
1. Imagine. You've got an impenetrable super-fortress. All the zombies have been killed or died off from decomposition. All thats left is multiple warring factions fighting from they're own super-fortress. Both groups of people are exactly the same, give one minor detail: Your fortress has Cannabis, theirs does not. Now, it might not mean victory immediately, but lets jump forward 10 years. Both factions had established guarded fields to grow food in a natural environment. For them, purely fruits, vegetables, and other helpful plants. For you, fruits, vegetables, helpful plants, and cannabis. How is this the key to survival, and not some stoner trying to force weed on me? Because, the fact of the matter is that cannabis is one of the worlds greenest plants. Hemp is one of the most universal materials, used for canvas, clothing, building materials, and purely for fields of food. Why is that, you may ask? Because for every cannabis plant planted(sounded redundant, didn't it?), it restores up to 3 times the nutrients it takes from the soil, meaning it leaves the soil increasingly more useful the longer it stays there. So if you were to plant 1 cannabis plant for every 3 of the other plants, you would be able to harvest and plant in that soil for all of eternity(figuratively speaking). Again, if your asking yourself, "How does this mean victory?". Well, after 10 years of growing in that soil, the opposing faction will have completely sucked it dry of all the nutrients. No nutrients, no food. See? You one without ever doing anything against them. :D
But, I digress, onto the more obvious point of the article. Intoxication!
Morale!?! How will drinking and smoking increase Morale? Maybe we could all just sit down, sing a song, play a game, and we'd all get happy, right?
Well, maybe, and I'm not stopping you to trying that. But the fact if the matter is that both alcohol and marijuana;
1. Are strong semi-anti-depressants
2. Are strong brain stimulants
3. Release a number of endorphins (the chemicals that cause you to feel happy).
After a long day of work, don't most people grab a beer and sit down in front of the t.v? The strain on someone having to go out and kill once living, breathing humans could prove too much. While a doctor will never (not yet, but maybe in the future thanks to legalization organizations) prescribe dope as a anti-depressant, I don't think they'll be many doctors around to write you or the other depressed person(s) in your fortress a prescription for Lexapro, Celexa, or some other anti-depressant, let alone whether there will even be any LEFT after Z-Day. Marijuana grows from cannabis, so its no extra effort to grow it. Also, it does almost no body damage, aside from the fact that smoking it can cause damage to your lungs leading to cancer ( But if you eat it or find a similar way to consume it, then thats not an issue anymore). Just like someone goes out to the local bar after work to get a load off, after a long day at work in a fortress( or better yet, outside of it), would you still think smoking weed is bad?
Now, onto alcohol. More than 400,000 gallons are consumed each year in the US alone. A group of people fought strongly in the 1910's to get it prohibited, and they succeeded in '20's. But, the people realized the aid it did mentally and the prohibition was eventually lifted. Your thinking, aid? What aid can it do? Well, alcohol IS an anti-depressant and a stimulant, but it does also cause liver problems and can lead to death. Also, the use of alcohol can cause loss of minor or major control of your body, which can lead to anything from passing out and wetting yourself, to causing a car accident from driving drunk. But if the use of it is limited to an alcohol content not of a "Smashed" dosage and that people who have been diagnosed with liver problems can give up drinking, the problems caused by it would slowly fade away into history.
Of course, my fortress does not come without rules on use of intoxicants. While they will remain legal, and grown ( Not very well-versed on the creation of alcohol, but I believe it comes from wheat? Correct me if I'm wrong :D), and used by the citizens above the age of 16, no one will be permitted for use while doing a job that requires leaving the fortress, putting others safety in there hands, and group jobs that require full cooperation. Since marijuana's intoxicated state generally does not cause impairment in abilities, its use will no be frowned upon while working as long as your not doing a job listed above, but since alcohol can cause extreme impairment of motor skills, speech, and thinking patterns, use would not be allowed while working. Marijuana and alcohol would be legal for use by citizens of 18, but 16 if they teen has a job that causes stress and possible depression. This would mean that if a teen who is of the age of 16 whose job requires him/her to face death daily, work in a high stress environment, or cause mental/physical exhaustion, then they would be permitted to use the listed intoxicants.
I've written a very compelling argument for the use of 2 certain intoxicants in a post Z-Day world, and given my own opinions on each of them, but I guess the real question is: What do YOU think about the use of marijuana and alcohol in a post Z-Day world? Or, what do you think about just the growth of cannabis as a purely environmental plant used to enrich soil?
Post your opinions and ideas below. I'll love to read them.
(Thank you for everyone who read this full article instead of clicking the "x" once drugs showed up. I love you :D)
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Andy REDDSON (Coastie):
IF, then when, that day comes, there won’t BE an authority that cares beyond your own wire.
Drugs, however, can alter your perceptions, and should, if used, be used under very careful control- Only in such-and-such controlled space (I’m allergic to pot, so the LAST thing I need is a raging migraine during my watch), and strictly NO access to weaps while drunk, high, or otherwise fucked up.
And FWIW- I support global legalization (and taxation).
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| Drewblet | Sigh | 6 | Nov 3 2008, 9:18 AM EST by Drewblet | |
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Thread started: Nov 2 2008, 9:39 AM EST
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*Sigh*
For one thing, I think this page got the ZSDW on a couple more FBI watchlists, in all probability. And for another, what about when you run out of alcohol? I suppose that you might be able to make moonshine, beer, and wine, but that's very (!!!) assuming. What about when you run out of pot? Sure you're planting it, but what about if you're out before the next harvest, you need to abandon base, your crop dies, some idiot either tries to harvest it too soon or 'accidentally' lights it on fire. If something were to happen to the weed, not only would there be a COLOSSAL drop in morale, but people disparate for a high will start doing stupid things. These and other contributing factors WILL lead to an increase in the suicide rate. I know that you can't be physically addicted (only mentally reliant) to marijuana, but could I ever tell you pot addict stories. . . When they didn't get their pot. . . My god. . . Next arises the issue of alcoholism, i.e. becoming addicted to alcohol. While alcohol DOES release endorphins, it is also a VERY strong depressant, and the only way to get rid of this depression is drinking more depressants, temporarily releasing endorphins, but ultimately continuing this depression. This scenario holds true for everyone, but then there are the alcoholics, the people who have an actual physical 'need' for alcohol. You WILL generate alcoholics is you start handing out alcohol freely. I could also tell you alcoholic stories. . . 'But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause and producing the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinitely. A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks.' That quote from George Orwell is very true. Personally, I don't recommend much of his page. MODERATION!!!!!! |
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| SkipNChurch | Planting Hemp? (page: 1 2) | 27 | Aug 29 2008, 10:25 PM EDT by kevin990 | |
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Thread started: Aug 25 2008, 6:22 PM EDT
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Food, oils, paper, clothing, rope, fuels, medications.
http://www.industrialhemp.net/ How many survivors enclaves are knowledgeable about hemp, planning on utilizing this resource? FEO has thousands of acres planted for every little use that the plant can be used for. *EOM*
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| Quickrace89 | Sorry... | 7 | Jul 17 2008, 2:51 PM EDT by BIA! | |
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Thread started: Jul 16 2008, 11:12 PM EDT
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I think you made a mistake. Alcohol and drugs do not heighten your senes or stimulate you. They do the complete opposite. Although methamphetamines can stimulate the brain if used correctly.
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| kevin990 | Yea Boiiii | 6 | Jul 16 2008, 3:27 PM EDT by BIA! | |
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Thread started: Jul 16 2008, 7:14 AM EDT
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i agree with this 100%.
These substances are great for raising morale... hence the reason they are so popular at parties. Vodka can be made from potatoe skins, but it will be really nasty shit if you dont make it properly, i think everyone should make a small distiller as it has many uses... water purification... and, of course, moonshine!!! Hemp clothing is some of the best in the world but has a bad stigma of only being worn by hippies and drug adicts. However, hemp is a great insulator... but not very water proof. Cannibis as a plant can produce more then smokable substances... Various ointments for burns and abrasions, rope/ string. Also you can extract some oil from the plant, through an extremely frustrating proccess, that decreases anxiety when soaked in through the muscles under the tongue. I know of a few other remedies and what not... just message me and ill expand on this list. on a side note i know these things because... ummm... my neighbour told me? |
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| Tuck-Duck&Roll | Are you trying to get high or make rope? | 2 | Jul 16 2008, 11:21 AM EDT by BIA! | |
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Thread started: Jul 16 2008, 11:10 AM EDT
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There are several types of Cannabis plants, but you have to choose what you want.
The Hemp plant is used for its fibers and oils to make rope, clothing, paper, cosmetics, etc, but it won't get you high, unless you smoke an ungodly amount of the stuff. The Marijuana plant is strictly used for its narcotic effects, its value for fibers is very low as compared to Hemp. In the early 1900’s all Cannabis plants were lumped together and banned by the government as a drug/narcotic. Which is to bad, because the Hemp plant makes fantastic paper and cloth. In fact the first two drafts of the Declaration of Independence were drafted on Hemp paper. The first colonist were required to grow Hemp as an export crop, for use in making sails and rope. |
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