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| byeaddison | Weapons (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 147 | Jul 30 2011, 10:10 AM EDT by crittergetter | ||||
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Thread started: Apr 29 2009, 2:31 AM EDT
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While planning what to take with you is essential, you also know that you will want some sort of weapon, and most agree that the best weapon is some form of gun; it's ranged, powerful, and doesn't use energy. But what guns are the best? With so much to choose from out there, it's easy to get something that you think will do, only to find out it lets you down. So... ill start with what guns i would take and of course why.
1. Handgun: if i said that there was one handgun everyone should have in case of a zombie apocalypse, i would be lying. but there are certain things to look for in a handgun. you want something that is relatively powerful, please no .22lr, simply wont do much. i would go for something with high capacity, like a FiveseveN (though im not sure it would stop a zombie in its tracks with its 5.7mm cartridge), and with decent stopping power (think .40 S&W or .50 ACP), and you want something that is easy to maintain. so i would go with a Kimber or ParaOrdnance 1911 in 40S&W instead of .50ACP due to weight of ammo, (with hi cap mags) and a FiveseveN chambered in 5.7mm with upgraded 30rd mags. I also recommend glocks (easy to find replacement parts, easy to handle, easy to maintain, etc) or sig sauer P226 (or most sigs), but really, its up to you. 2. Rifle: this is your main weapon, so you want something that is easy to use, has decent range and accuracy, and uses ammo that isnt heavy. I like the AR15 platform (im american, so im biased), but anything chambered in 5.56 NATO, 6.8 SPC, or 6.5 Grendel should work. .30cal weapons (like the AK, the m14, etc.) are great weapons, but i dont like the weight of the gun and the ammo, so i wouldnt use them (but some people dont mind, so its up to you). you also want something that is either easy to maintain or maintenance-free. while they are expensive and hard to find, HK 416s are excellent - weapon of choice if i could have anything. or an FN SCAR-L. continued below.
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| 13th.Casualty | So all we think about is the contents of a Bug Out Bag... | 14 | Jan 25 2011, 11:07 AM EST by cas13f | ||||
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Thread started: May 1 2008, 11:49 PM EDT
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Yeah, all we think about are the contents, but what about the actual bag? I was putting together one holding the two bottled waters when I asked myself, "Where am I gonna put these things?"
So can anyone help me look for an ideal pack, bag, or plastic to put our survival stuff in? I mean, you can't just put it in a garbage bag and expect to be the most badass zack hunter out there. It's gotta be something with maximum capacity and ultralightweight. (is that even a word?)
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| Jesden | My BoB | 6 | May 10 2010, 11:13 AM EDT by DeltaBravo1294 | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 12 2008, 4:58 AM EDT
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I have two, one for camp, with essentials, and one for periodic raids to get new stuff.
My raid bob is pretty much this: Webtex combat vest (with water bladder)(in urban camo) Maglight (enough batterys to supply) first aid kit a custom built precision rifle a box of ammo for said rifle scope for said rifle, featuring IR and NV abilities 2 energy bars My main BoB is this: 85Ltr Bergen in woodland camo, same rifle as i take on raids 8 boxes of ammo for said rifle 1 change of clothes 2 spare socks (pair) and boxers(vacuum pack) 3 days water water purification tablets first aid kit 10 energy bars 3 days canned foods lightweight booklets on edible plants wire for snares camo poncho hat in same cammo as poncho flint/steel crank radio blanket shake light pencils/paper binnoculars hatchet multitool dehydrated fruit (enough for 3 days) IR/HV/NV monocle with head straps More added later if I can work out essentials I live right by a forest so i can hopefully just slip away into it.
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| conor78 | bob | 0 | Nov 7 2009, 3:58 PM EST by conor78 | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 7 2009, 3:58 PM EST
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1 22lr rifle with scoper+200 rounds 3 torches+20 batteries + a field hockey stick a aluminium baseball bat a large camel back and lots of food |
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| deathdude223 | bug out bag RE: | 19 | Sep 29 2009, 4:27 PM EDT by SGTGerman | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 3 2009, 12:47 AM EDT
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i would have 10 boxes of 550 22. rounds a 22. rifle with a scope a makarave pistol and 1000 bullets with red dot 4 canteens 1 frag grenade 2 bottles of medical whiskey pair of extra clothes 10 in. bowie knife 9 cans of food a can opener head worn nvgs a luger p08 and ammo armor pirsing bullets and finnaly a ak47 and ear plugs cause that thing IS FREKEN LOUDER THAN A CANNON i AM NOT KIDDING IT WILL DISORIENTATE YOU BAD and an m1 carbine i got a friend that got one i got a makarove and the only medicine i need is a bullet
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| Matthewcain | Lets Get Serious Here... (page: 1 2) | 39 | Sep 29 2009, 2:50 PM EDT by SGTGerman | ||||
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Thread started: Jul 30 2008, 8:22 PM EDT
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ALL YOUR JUNK:I love how everyone seems to ignore the 'normal person' listing at the top. Last time i checked, a normal person can't run, climb and jump with an 80lb duffel that measures over a meter.
FOOD: Food won't be much of an issue. No matter where you are, there will always be canned or dehydrated food. Straight out of the gate i agree with alicestar...all you really need is a few energy bars to fill in. Any have any of you kids had MRE'S? No? Well they'll give you the shits for weeks. Not someone you want on the run. WATER: Purification is easy as pie, so don't stress. A good pump filter will remove 75% of bacteria. Boil to take you to 90%, and add iodine to take you to 97%. Carrying a small bottle or Camelback will keep your lips wet. And once again, bottled water is everywhere. WEAPONS: Everyone goes on about outlandish weapons as if this is a dream world. Good luck finding that FNP90 with a suppressor. Even if you live in the states, that weapon is a dream. Not to mention ammo...good luck with that one. Keep it common, as most stores carry 5.56 or 7.62. Most hunting rifles operate on .308, so the AK47, and AR15's and most 10 clip semi-autos will suffice. As for your handgun, stick with something in 45acp or 9mm. Avoid FMJ's on a 9mm, as it will go through and through like a thread through a needle. The downside of the 9mm, is that it runs at a higher pressure, which means a higher chance of damage. Stick to the 45 with lead - HP or PHP will carry and airflow into the wound causing the real damage. Shotguns are as common as it comes. 12g buck will tear a limb off with the right choke, and you can find shells in country stores. No joke. MELEE: If you can't one hand it, don't bother. A 32" machete is your best bet, as you could chop bricks all day long. But a smart man will run the 32" crowbar. Crack a skull, lock, or have an extra 2 and a bit feet of reach.
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| DaveBall | B.O.B. and were you live. | 18 | Sep 29 2009, 9:25 AM EDT by SGTGerman | ||||
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Thread started: Jun 3 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
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I live in a rural area (farm land), with the closest house 2 miles away. I have completely different needs for our Bug Out Bags than say some one in a city, or who is way out in the wilderness. The nearest store to me is at least 6 miles away. I set-up my gear to reflect what I would need if I can't get into a store right after I had to evacuate, and in case I had to hold up in a barn or on the run for a few days. I am curios about some of your situations and why you packed what you did. Hopefully we can keep this constructive and learn and make all of our B.O.B.s better.
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| tal35 | BOB firearm | 2 | Sep 23 2009, 11:17 PM EDT by tal35 | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 23 2009, 10:52 PM EDT
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If I put together a bag, it would have either a 77/22suppressed or 10/22 suppressed. You can get food with it and carry 1krds no problem to keep weight down. Also good for protection, lots of large animals have been taken with a 22. Matching pistol with can adapter. Nothing like being quiet!
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| Matthewcain | I'M No Hater - Here's the List | 15 | Apr 30 2009, 9:22 AM EDT by inu-dude25 | ||||
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Thread started: Jul 30 2008, 9:02 PM EDT
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*CLOTHING/ARMOUR*
-Shirt -Sweater -Heavy Pants -Leather bracers/half chaps -Canvas jacket -Kevlar gloves with pvc knuckles -Leather combat boots with extra half size -Good vest with attachments -3 day assault pack - Blackhawk makes a few good ones TOTAL WEIGHT: 15lbs *TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT* -Multi tool -Fixed blade knife -Jet lighter -Fire Starter -10h Chem sticks -3 flares -Quickties (first aid, attaching items, fixing tools, keeping doors locked) -Hockey tape (best adherence with sweat/water, and temp conditions + first aid applications) -Fishing line -Sewing kit (repairs and first aid) -Para cord -First Aid kit -Pump filter -Iodine tablets -Fishing kit -Nylon webbing -20m of good rope -Caribiners -LED flashlight with rechargables -Compact solar generator TOTAL WEIGHT: 22lbs *WEAPONS* -Kimber Royal II, 45ACP - blued to avoid usual rust issues -Springfield SOCOM 7.62/.308 (10 round clip) - similar to M14 with shorter barrel and lightened poly parts -8 pistol magazines (FULL) -4 rifle magazines (FULL) -20" prybar in titanium - won't catch in bone and has multiple applications -GUN CLEANING KIT - SO IMPORTANT!!! TOTAL WEIGHT: 35lbs This pretty well takes care of the essentials for on the go. If you need to bail this weight is do-able for one person. And if you have to leave your pack to get to safety for a bit, at least you won't have to worry about them stealing your kit. NEVER LEAVE A WEAPON BEHIND. ALWAYS ON YOU AT ALL TIMES, INCLUDING KNIVES. There will also be others in your crew with specific designations who may carry special items: Axe, shield, etc. As for accomodation, i'd suggest a hammock tent - they'll keep you out of harm's way, and their light. I have a million other suggestions, but the word limit says no. I'M LOVING EVERYONE'S IDEAS - THANK YOU
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| humanroach | consolidate you B.O.B. | 9 | Apr 6 2009, 2:18 PM EDT by JasonRedfield | ||||
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Thread started: Apr 5 2009, 2:58 PM EDT
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there are some items in these list that can be replaced for smaller, lighter, items. some can be thrown out all together:
1x large maglite (replace with L.E.D. headlamp.) 1x thermal roll mat for those clear nights under the roof of my fortress(throw away) 1x gas stove and mess tins(throw away, or get a collapsable sterno stove and sterno fuel. lighter, smaller) 1x camelbak thermobak 2 litre & 1x vacuum sealed travel mug(how much do you need in 1 B.O.B.?) 1x entrenching tool(not sure how big or heavy this is. possible throw away?) this all was in WILLAGE's B.O.B
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| DevilNuts | No BOB for me. | 10 | Mar 1 2009, 9:58 PM EST by 3DayAsylum | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 1 2009, 10:15 AM EST
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First of all, I am a realist. I am not going to pretend that I have water purification tablets lying around, a closet full of weapons, rock climbing gear or even pretend that I would know how to get ahold of most of that shit in an emergency anyway.
It's not important. What is important? Staying alive, staying mobile and being resourceful. So I wake up in the morning, and the town is on fire, zombies in the streets, everyones dead, boo hoo etc. etc. What would I grab? * Shoes. The Vans? No, the New Balances - it could be a long walk. * Jacket. It's not cold right now, but it will be tonight. * Cigarette lighter. Never know when you'll need to start a fire (or light a cigarette). I guess it depends on where you live. Bottom line is this: I live in a town of a few hundred thousand people. There are houses fucking EVERYwhere. I am a Marine - I have carried a huge pack, slept in the mud and all of that other happy nonsense. I know what I need and what I don't need to survive. And if by now I'm not smart enough to find a clean pair of socks, a bottle of water or a warm bed to sleep at night, then it doesn't matter what is in the bag - I'm as good as dead. The most important thing to keep on you at all times is your wits. MRE's, a portable tire inflator and magnesium sticks aren't going to do you any good if you're a moron. And it's going to be rather difficult to run from zombies with a hundred pound pack on your back. Keep it simple, and don't depend on stuff to keep you alive.
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| zackkiller597 | bob | 4 | Feb 11 2009, 9:47 PM EST by JustinMcleod | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 27 2009, 11:44 AM EST
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i have a large hiking bag pack witch contains
FOOD:6x tins of spaghteti 6x sachets of beef jerky caffiene pills water: a brita purifier and two filters 50x purification tablets kit:1 fring pan 1 billy can(a small army pot) a survival knife a large water bottle weapons: 1 powerful airrifle for ranged it uses co2 tanks i have about ten of them and 1000 pellets and a ball peen hammer
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| Mountain_Stork | my bob (first post) | 3 | Feb 2 2009, 9:18 PM EST by cyberwulf | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 2 2009, 12:58 AM EST
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dont know if i am posting this right but F**k it
all packed in or attached to a camelback (figure small and light is best) 7 inch 119 buck knife x1 bic lighters x 5 38 special x 1 100 rounds hollow point .38 ammo (have more lying around but that is what i have at all times) sock's x 4 70 oz water in camel back blatter iodine tablets dental floss for hygene and other utility purposes shoe laces x 4 "we need some rope" sleeping bag and pad packed into my bivy sack and rolled up and attached to my camel back with homemade straps
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| DaveBall | To put a link to your BOB | 0 | Jan 8 2009, 1:23 PM EST by DaveBall | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 8 2009, 1:23 PM EST
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If you want a link to your BOB list (that you can make on your Profile page) I would be glad to link it on the page for you.
P.M. me when you have it ready and I will get to it as soon as I have some free time. |
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| TheWheelerKid45 | Eberstock? | 5 | Nov 28 2008, 6:34 PM EST by AgEnT_GrEEn | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 21 2008, 12:46 AM EDT
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So i have been considering a bag that will accommodate gear and weaponry and i came across the eberstock series which includes the gunslinger. Basically they have a built in gun carrier. Does anyone have any information on the reliability or durability, hell even if a gun carrying backpack would be needed?
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| woody100 | guns | 6 | Sep 13 2008, 9:43 PM EDT by Andering_J_REDDSON | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 13 2008, 2:25 PM EDT
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AK-47
pssh no, while your at it do you plan on carrying an eleaphant? most types average almost 5kg i would never take a gun that averaged over 4kg. at heaviest take an m16, i think you should go for an m1 carbine.
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| alicestar | you pack like a woman (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 106 | Aug 23 2008, 6:51 PM EDT by crowleyj | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 21 2008, 2:16 AM EST
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come on guys, do you really think you can fit a solid 72hr kit in an alice pack.... well, if you can lets go on to why? you can subsist for more than 72hrs without food fatty so put down the turkey leg and read!!!!
5 cliff energy bars 3qt hydro pack LBE (with flashlight, loaded mags, multi freq 2way radio, pressure bandage,multipurpose tool.) pistol of choice assault riffle of choice(semi auto only killer) change of boots and sox and BDU's I personally vacuum seal my sox and bdu's so they take up less space and stay dry until needed but thats up to you.
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| NoxTerran | rule of 3's | 1 | Aug 20 2008, 9:00 AM EDT by NoxTerran | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 20 2008, 8:56 AM EDT
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ok, time to simplify this a good bit. we are planning this incase of zday, not a class 1 or 2 outbreak but massive 3 or 4. you gotta get out its not just for a couple days, you are going to have to SURVIVE in the wilderness so i bring to mind the rule of 3's as i state a rule i will post a few examples of what you will need to go with it
You can die in... 3 min without medical attention as comprehensive of a first aid kit as you can get while keeping it light. take suchure kits-i simply go to the local hospital and ask for it, since its not medicinal i get it no problems duct tape-as good as as any bandaid if you thro a small piece of gauze on the middle over the wound gauze pads- get at your local walmart for 50 cents for 20 either hydrogen peroxide, iodine, or alcohol. i find alcohol easier to cary and a good fuel source for fire starting in a pinch so i am carrying a small bottle of rubbing alcohol. be creative, anything you MIGHT come across in the wild that can hurt you, figure out a cheap, small light way to take care of it and pack it in the first aid kit. 3Days without water this is simple folks, the average gallon of water weighs 8lbs. thats alot of weight to carry around on a long run. instead head somewhere where there will be water and filter it. they sell a stray to do this, or simply pack a couple paper coffee filters to filter out physical items and checmically/boil treat the rest of it. poof clean water less weight 3 weeks without food ALL SMALL FURRY MAMMELS ARE EDIBLE!!! you have a gun for protection from zeds (hopefully) hunt, pack some snare wire and trap. eat off the land 3zeds can overwhelm you. take 3 melee weapons as well as your trusty rifle and pistol (if you choose pistol) and train train train. become an expert at everything you got, and the best way to practice survival......CAMPING go to a national forest, tell the guy you which way you are going to find you in 3days and go
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| byates | Quick, cheap, and dirty BOB | 0 | Aug 20 2008, 2:41 AM EDT by byates | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 20 2008, 2:41 AM EDT
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While at Dollar General Monday, I started thinking. What if you are without your BOB? What can you find to improvise a quick,cheap, and dirty BOB? So, I looked around and made a quick list from what was in that store. Here is my list and reasoning.
Back to School Pack $8.00 - you got to put the stuff somewhere. Food Chicken of the Sea Tuna foil pack $1.15 Chicken of the Sea Pink Salmon foil pack $1.00 Del Monte Harvest Select plastic box pack meals - $2.25 Zataran;s Ready to Serve foil pack meal - $2.00 Hormel Compleats plastic box pack meal - $2.25 Notice about the above they are all packed in plastic or foil, no heavy metal, and they are ready to eat as is, no prep. In the case of the plastic box pack, you have a plastic box to re-purpose. Drink Bottled water 16 OZ - 3 for $1.00 Campbell's Soup Heat & Sip - $1.50 The bottled water has a screw on cap so can be refilled and reused. The Heat & Sip I have my doubts about it's value weight ratio, but it does give you a drinking cup after you empty it and wash it. Misc Westinghouse LED Flashlight w/ 2AA batteries - $3.00 Primary light Roll Duct Tape - $3.00 repair stuff Rival 12 pc flatware - $3.00 beats eating with your fingers, keep one set and throw the rest Rival 3 pc Knife set - $3.00 weapons, improvise sheaths from cardboard and duct tape, one in pack, one taped to forearm, one taped to calf. 8" skillet alum - $4.00 dinner plate, boil water, useful if someone offers you food. Fleece Throw - $5.00 some warmth at night. Handy Saw - $5.00 useful tool Just a few things I saw and priced, select your own from the local store, you can make a quick, cheap, and dirty BOB |
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| Scribe13 | Position in the Group | 1 | Jul 10 2008, 8:20 PM EDT by Andering_J_REDDSON | ||||
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Thread started: Jul 10 2008, 7:53 PM EDT
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Shouldn't the contents of a BOB match what is necessary to the groups survival? Now, I'm just assuming that everyone is going to be with a group, but it seems that the person who is carrying that medical supplies and field guides to edible plants doesn't need to carry the group's retrieval kit. Since most of us are also in an urban environment, it is possible to get the supplies needed on the run. Personally, I'm probably going to be one of the retrieval team, so here's my BOB. (Note: I am not an expert on guns, so please be kind if you criticize my choices.)
Retrieval Tools: 14" Wrecking Bar 6 lb Maul 4 lb Sledge Hammer MultiTool LED Flashlight (Red Cloth to protect Night Vision) 4 Replacement Batteries 30 ft Nylon Rope/ Tow Strap Machete (Also a Defensive Weapon) Personal First-Aid Kit 3 Flares (Can be used as fire-starters) Full Face Gas Mask 2 Books—The Zombie Survival Guide and Elk Skin Gloves Notepad (includes pen) (Waterproof!) Space Blanket Walkie-Talkie Defensive Weapons: 12-gauge Remington 1100 Shotgun w/ 15 extra rounds Jericho Semi-Auto Pistol w/ 2 Boxes of Rounds Combat Knife Trench Spike
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