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Review of Kel-Tec SU-16b
KelTec SU-16b Review:
I have had my eye on this rifle for quite some time, due
to it's intriguingdesign, versitilty, and compatability. Well Ifinally decided I realy didn't need all 3 of my m4s (SW M&P15, LWRC M6A3, and Bushmaster AR15) so I traded in my bushmaster, got a fair chunk of change and bought this little rifle (well I got this and another rifle for the money they gave for the AR). This was probably hands down the best trade off I think I have made thus far, I love this weapon.
Features: extremely light weight, compatible with all m16/ar mags, Integrated Bipod, Picanny rail, folding rear stock, 2 10rnd magazines stored in the rear stock, and removable front&rear sights.
The light weight and compatibility features kind of speak for themselves, I mean who wouldnt want a 4 lbs rifle that uses m16 mags and ammo (which lets face it are like the universal remote of the magazine world, they are everywhere and cheap).The Integrated Bipod, ok it sounds chessy, I thought so too, but it has proven to be pretty useful. It easily deploys and does help stabilize the weapon, however, this is where one of my two only complaints comes in, when the bipod is in use it does not lock in place, nor do the feet have rubber on them to help keep it from slipping (working on correcting these). The magazine storage is awesome, I mean granted it's only 20 rnds total, but at least it's something if all you can grab is the rifle. (I keep a 30 rnd on the rifle, so total i'd be running with 50rnds). The rear stock folds up and locks into the front stock for storage, the Bravo version like mine can not be fired in this condition, the charlie version can, but you loose the magzine storage and it doesn't fold up as small.
Ok, now time for range results. My review on accuracy and reliability is based off of 2 seperate days on the range, putting approx 250 rnds through each day.
The accuracy was awesome, used a vice only to zero the sights, the results below are free hand using the bipod, or shooting bag for support.
Day One, 97 degrees, 3mph wind, pounding sun with no cloud cover-
25yds-
Iron sights- Performed flawlessly 2 in group each time, like clockwork.
50 yds-
Iron sights- A little low and right, corrected the sights, sticking about a 3 in group. Jammed once.
Scope- Got it zeroed, was beautiful, 1.5 to 2 in groups.
100yds
Iron sights- I was a little sloppy, about 4 to 5 in groups, one strayed off paper ( i dunno what that was about, lol)
Scope- Back to nice little 2-3 in groups, functioned beautifully.
The big one for the day
300yds-
Iron sight- yea right, my vision sucks
Scope- 5-6 in goups, had 3 strays out of 50 rnds at this range.
DayTwo was pretty much the same, total I had some pretty good results for a $600 5.56 rifle. Total for the 2 days and near 500 rnds I had 1 jam, quick and easy to clear. All and all I'm extremely happy with this rifle and highly highly recommend it.
*****comment from possumblaster was moved from here to the related thread as it was not actually part of this review and has been mistaken as such. Thanks
I have had my eye on this rifle for quite some time, due
| Specifications: | |
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| Weight: | 4.5lb (2.1 kg). unloaded |
| Length: | 35.9 in (912.0mm).Open 24.9 in (632.7mm). Folded |
| Barrel Length: | 16 in (406.4mm). |
| Cartridge: | 5.56 (.223) |
| Action: | semi auto, gas op |
| Twist: | 1:9 in (1:228.6mm) |
| Effective Range: | 300 yd (XXX m). (this is the range I was still accurate at with it iron sights, claims are further) |
| Feed System: | Magazine, comes with 2 10rnd mags that fit into the rear stock. can also use any m16/ar style mag. |
| Sights: | Comes with M16 style iron sights, for this review I used both iron sights and a 3-9x32mm scope. |
Features: extremely light weight, compatible with all m16/ar mags, Integrated Bipod, Picanny rail, folding rear stock, 2 10rnd magazines stored in the rear stock, and removable front&rear sights.
The light weight and compatibility features kind of speak for themselves, I mean who wouldnt want a 4 lbs rifle that uses m16 mags and ammo (which lets face it are like the universal remote of the magazine world, they are everywhere and cheap).The Integrated Bipod, ok it sounds chessy, I thought so too, but it has proven to be pretty useful. It easily deploys and does help stabilize the weapon, however, this is where one of my two only complaints comes in, when the bipod is in use it does not lock in place, nor do the feet have rubber on them to help keep it from slipping (working on correcting these). The magazine storage is awesome, I mean granted it's only 20 rnds total, but at least it's something if all you can grab is the rifle. (I keep a 30 rnd on the rifle, so total i'd be running with 50rnds). The rear stock folds up and locks into the front stock for storage, the Bravo version like mine can not be fired in this condition, the charlie version can, but you loose the magzine storage and it doesn't fold up as small.
Ok, now time for range results. My review on accuracy and reliability is based off of 2 seperate days on the range, putting approx 250 rnds through each day.
The accuracy was awesome, used a vice only to zero the sights, the results below are free hand using the bipod, or shooting bag for support.
Day One, 97 degrees, 3mph wind, pounding sun with no cloud cover-
25yds-
Iron sights- Performed flawlessly 2 in group each time, like clockwork.
50 yds-
Iron sights- A little low and right, corrected the sights, sticking about a 3 in group. Jammed once.
Scope- Got it zeroed, was beautiful, 1.5 to 2 in groups.
100yds
Iron sights- I was a little sloppy, about 4 to 5 in groups, one strayed off paper ( i dunno what that was about, lol)
Scope- Back to nice little 2-3 in groups, functioned beautifully.
The big one for the day
300yds-
Iron sight- yea right, my vision sucks
Scope- 5-6 in goups, had 3 strays out of 50 rnds at this range.
DayTwo was pretty much the same, total I had some pretty good results for a $600 5.56 rifle. Total for the 2 days and near 500 rnds I had 1 jam, quick and easy to clear. All and all I'm extremely happy with this rifle and highly highly recommend it.
*****comment from possumblaster was moved from here to the related thread as it was not actually part of this review and has been mistaken as such. Thanks
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| MatthewGlass | Keltec 5.56mm | 7 | Dec 6 2009, 9:13 PM EST by SGTGerman | ||
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Thread started: Oct 21 2009, 9:37 PM EDT
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I am a KelTec owner and love the gun for it's ability to fold in half (remove pin with fingernail) and stuff into backpack. I was sad to read the review above from a gunsmith saying they are not well made and shoddy. Mine seems ok but havn't shot it much so we;lll see. I will take exception to one note on AKs vs a KelTec. I am struggling to imagine an AK being more accurate than my little KelTec which I found to be as accurrate or more than my Mini 14 - a benchmark for 5.56 accuracy out of the box (we're not talking about hyper modified ARs here which of course can drive tacks, we're talking out of the box) AKs are great for what they are but accurracy is not a word i have ever heard associated with them. Having said that, I agree that the AK round (7.62x39) is a fantastic round and also available cheap and in quantity however I will wager I can carry a lot more 5.56 than you can in my backpack!
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| Navsubet | MMM New Rifle review | 2 | Oct 12 2009, 12:00 PM EDT by Navsubet | ||
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So, it's been forever since I have posted anything and it had been almost as long since I had been to the range. As any of you that had read my posts from before, I am a huge fan of the 5.56 round, as it's light, relatively accurate, and fairly common and abundant. I have been eyeing one gun in particular because of it's intriguing design and potential usefulness, the Kel-Tec SU-16b. Now, before the naysayers start to scoff at it because it's a Kel-Tec, at least read my experience thus far with it
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