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One thing I think people are forgetting to worry about is the damage a zombie can do without biting you. The protection list above me is a great list but no where does it state what a zombie can do to you without biting, A zombie cannot bite through most of that stuff but it cant still bite hard enough to break or fracture a bone. So yes, chain mail will not let the bite puncture the skin but once someone, zombie or not, clamps its teeth on you there can be severe muscle and bone damage. Just giving everyone a heads up :). EnriqueB
That's actually pretty smart, I never would have thought of that. ZombieSlayerRC
In my experience, zombies were of the same strength as your average human, and endowed no extra strength, just the fact no pain is felt. So to say that it will fracture a bone, goes a bit to far, maybe some muscle damage through armour, true. But its teeth, now also rotting, and so forth, will most likely break before breaking your bone, unless you suffer from some form of calcium deficiency, or the zombie is biting you with his molars, then it would be feasible that he could break a bone, but as he would have to have no cheeks to bite with a molar, that, though not infeasible, is highly unlikely. So just imagine a strong pinching pain through leather, probably stopped pretty fast if you use a small hand pick axe as a weapon.. everyone forgets, that its shape will pierce hard rock, so therefore a structure such as a skull is no problem, it would break through, and in most cases damage the brain. causing a fatal, or paralysing shot to your foe, living, or non living . deathsrising
A very good item to have is the "FX-1 FlexForce Riot Control Suit". It is nearly indestructible and is impervious to zombie attacks. You can find them for $429.99 and up (maybe less). They provide protection from blood entering your mouth and eyes, they are a dark color to prevent you from being seen (just remove the white front label), all you need to do is buy the boots, the gloves, face mask, and the helmet. These are a great thing to have in your closet for Z-Day. As soon as I raise me some cash I'm buying me a suit. I recommend you buy one too.
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Also, in regards to clothing and protection of this sort... Leather is nearly always a fantastic choice. The only problem is lack of breath-ability, which may cause dehydration and fatigue. Using leather should be done carefully, and layering of other materials (synthetic in particular) should also be considered for personal protection. And a final note on footwear. Steel toed boots are always a fantastic idea, but if you are worried about fatigue or durability, a standard military issue pair of boots can be a good alternative. These boots may be purchased at any military outlet, and even on line for rather cheap.
-EvacMedic
Something that doesn't seem to have been noted on this page so far is sound. Some of that armor, while also being heavy, constraining and generally impractical, will also make a lot of noise to alert the zombies to your presence. This could be true of leather, trench coats, tarps(who really listed that?), and some of the weather appropriate stuff(though rain should create a louder masking sound). Shoes with a loud footfall should also be avoided. Remember, you are surviving, and that requires stealth in many cases. -McSkullcracken
UnUndead: For facial protection I would suggest safety glasses and a surgical mask. This combo would effectively prevent the blood and guts from getting into your eyes, nose, and mouth, and can be found easily. Also, safety glasses are designed to fit around regular glasses, so if you need glasses to see, these give you eye protection without limiting vision.
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Here is my input. You can read a little about me in my profile.
Armor- I definitely like the looks of the Flex-Force Riot Control Suit listed above. I would definitely like to have one of these suits available for certain activities, such as when z-contact is expected in close quarters. However, I would not wear it at all times, as it would cause earlier fatigue. I have a couple pros and cons:
Pros: Bite protection (cut and crush resistant), maintains tight fit of clothing, high flexibility, designed for the closest thing to z-combat, protects from falls and accidents
Cons: Can be grabbed onto and possibly ripped off (Velcro straps), lacks neck and back of legs protection
Clothing- This suit it designed to fit over BDUs (Battle Dress Uniform) or a similar uniform (ACUs, TDUs, ABUs, etc.). I prefer ACUs or TRUs, due to better pocket placement and accessibility.
Boots- Military combat boots are a definite necessity. They are made for heavy use in a variety of terrain. Black leather or tan suede, either one is good. Other people have discussed the benefits of leather over canvas, so I won't discuss it other than to say that leather is hotter, but much more waterproof. Blousing (tucking in) your pants into your boots also will provide less fabric to snag on things and for Z's to grab.
Gloves- Gloves are a necessity. Picking the right glove is very much a matter of choice. Personally, I feel that long cuff gloves made with Kevlar fabric (for cut/tear resistance) with high dexterity are ideal. Wiley X Tactical Assault Gloves are perfect, but expensive.
Headgear- As for a helmet, a riot helmet with face shield would be great for the usage I mentioned for the Riot Suit, but not everyday wear. I don't think a ballistic helmet would be necessary, unless you expect renegade human groups trying to steal your supplies, but that is a whole different story. A bike helmet could be good when travelling in case of falls, crashes, etc. A Boonie style hat would be good in sun and rain. A short brimmed BDU style cap would be better than a baseball cap, because the latter can obstruct vision. Bandannas are excellent. Have plenty of them. Or just make them from discarded shirts and the such.
Eye wear/Face Protection- I do not agree with the paint ball mask idea. It would greatly reduce peripheral vision, unless you go for a high end, fog proof, wraparound visor design. Even then, some vision obstruction will be likely. Eye wear is important though. Tactical sunglasses offer a variety of styles, but a wraparound, minimal frame design is good. Look for the kind with some type of padding around the lenses that prevents wind, dust, and fluids from entering your eyes form the sides. Make sure you have a few pairs, because no matter how good they are, they will probably break. Also get some clear lens shooting glasses in a similar style. Some brands offer detachable earpieces that you can replace with a goggle strap. This is very good. Do not get glasses with swappable lenses. You think it sounds good, but it just means they are easier to lose the lenses out of. For the sunglasses, get orange or yellow tint, grey or dark green tint will only limit the acuteness of your vision.
Accessories- Kevlar sleeves with thumb holes can be worn under or over clothing. They provide cut/tear resistance, but do not offer crushing or blunt trauma. Neck gators are EXTREMELY versatile and useful in all climates. If you don't have one, get one now. Even for everyday, non-Z related use, they are great. You can wear them in a dozen different ways, and use them for a variety of things like bandannas. They can cover your mouth and neck to prevent blood splatter getting around your mouth or on your skin.
If anyone wants to discuss this further, you can e-mail me. Check my profile.
-TEBBEN
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A suggestion for someone who's got limited access to proper helmeting, I'd recommend obtaining a paint ball mask and several pieces of cloth such as bandannas. The paint ball mask itself will protect most of your face from hazardous fluids splattering all over you, as well as having the benefit of designating friendlies from friendly fire as previously noted with bandannas. Granted, the portion around the mouth is still open enough to allow fluids to fly in, which is where the cloth comes in. Simply place the cloth over your mouth area, it should act as a perfectly breathable filter and protect you from a splatter or two so long as you switch out the cloth almost as soon as it comes into contact with the fluids. While not perfect it may save your skin a couple times from the inherit danger of fluids getting in your mouth, nose, eyes or other open facial wounds. Also in the event of a military force using chemical weapons simply piss on the cloth, place it over your mouth and nose and run for it (preferably to the north or south where the wind is less likely to blow). While not perfect, and only provides limited protection against gases attacking the respiratory system, the technique did save quite a few lives on the French side during World War I. -Piratelord78
This page is for Protective Clothing only. The other categories that where on the Weapons and Gear page with this category are listed as following:
codeman
i myself would cut up a trampoline and use the material to make a suit.....or at least put it under my regular clothes...
Thrawn5
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If I could not find any protective clothing whatsoever I would put several layers of duct tape on any clothing that I would be wearing, duct tape does not allow your clothing to breath and it can severely inhibit flexibility/speed but it would stop a zombie from puncturing your clothing for a while (have you ever tried to bite/cut through 20 layers of duct tape? it takes a long time).
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Spraymachine
I have designed an ideal bite proof suit with my 2 hours of spare time between classes today.
Hal-5 robo suit
This device has made its way around the Internet and back, but luckily the technology has yet to fall into the Wrong Hands. Weighing about 33 pounds, the suit will nearly double your strength autonomously by tracking electrical nerve impulses through your skin via electromyogram sensors.
These pages are filed under Other kinds of Weapons and Gear and under Weapons and Gear
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zurvivor: As most people won't be near a police station when an outbreak occurs, or capable to raid the station's storage for riot gear for that matter, I was thinking that it should be possible to make fairly good antized-armor out of ordinary PET soda bottles (the larger ones). Cut out pieces and strap on or wear under your clothes. It would be ultralight and I have a hard time believing that any normal non-armed person could penetrate it except for maybe with a broken and sharp bonepipe. If any part of the armor starts to get worn, just find the nearest convenience store or dumpster to replace it!
DOS:
Personal Protection Suit: The ultimate zombie survival gear is- Fire Fighting Turnout Gear. It’s heavy and hot, true, b
ut not that heavy and hot; And it’s bite PROOF; Not “bite resistant” but PROOF, and in fact beartraps would have trouble punching through (they’ll break your bones, maybe draw a little bit of blood, but certainly not bite true through). Be sure to wear it with the collar UP, and taped in place if necessary. An adequate alternative is heavy-gauge coveralls, such as Carharts mentioned above (be sure to sew the legs shut first).
GLOVES: Wear them. Leather work gloves. Not necessarily electricity rated, but certainly work-rated. The longer the better. TAPE these (with duct tape) to the sleeves of your turnouts if you're on the security detail.
Helmets: Again, wear them (unlike gloves, wear these all the time). Fixed visor motorcycle helmets provide the maximum degree of protection, both from biting and from vector agents (spit, blood, etc). If a fixed visor can not be obtained, pin the visor in place by drilling a hole through the rotators and screwing it in place. (Be certain to grind or cut off excess screw.)
DON’TS:
Denims, Tarps, etc: They can be torn and torn off. Do not bother depending your life to these.
“Weather Appropriate” Attire: If you are wearing your appropriate Personal Protective Gear, you will be warm and dry in winter, and with proper caution not overheat in summer.
Non-Encasing Helmets (that is, a helmet that does not fully encase your head, including visor): If it does not fully cover your head, a skin job WILL bite you no matter how many times you crush his skull, cut off his head, burn his body, AND piss on his ashes- Because his buddy will sneak up behind you and bite you.
Wet/dry suits (especially dry suits): These retain heat (this is what they’re designed to do), and dry suits retain sweat, leading to discomfort at best, heat stroke at worst. Worse, they provide no protective value; Skin jobs can rip those open rather easily.
Hats: If you’re wearing your helmet, you HAVE a hat. If you’re wearing a hat, you have to take your helmet OFF to put the helmet ON in the event of an attack- And will not end up as lunch, but as a recruit. If you wanna become a skin job, fine- Wear a hat.
“Body Armor” (Kevlar): Totally useless against skin jobs as they can’t use guns anyways. If you do get into a battle with the only types of enemies Kevlar can protect you from, humans, your problems are a whole lot worse than you thought you knew. However, you would be well-cautioned to wear Class I body armor anyways, especially if going into a known sector of raider and slaver activity.
See also tactics for further discussion of gloves/smooth hands.
Zombie Survivor Fashion Don'ts:
Trench Coat:
In spite of their commonly held notion of being safe, reliable and so forth, trench coats provide very little protective value against skin jobs. What protective value they do provide, against the rain primarily, is easily provided, in turn, by a proper protective ensemble (hard or soft).
Realistically, trench coats are primarily intended as dress-uniform items, and if your situation has risen to the point to justify dress uniforms, then you’re either doing something wrong or right; Either you should be out there hunting the skin jobs down en masse, or you did and every last dammed one of them is DEAD again (as nature intended).
Note: The above statements ONLY apply to certain thin fabric trench coats (the ones made for fashion alone)... Now, if your trench coat happens to be made of leather, canvas, or some other durable material (intended for work, etc)... By all means, WEAR IT. It not only makes a nice fashion statement, but it has all of the advantages of a leather coat, plus the leg protection.
That's actually pretty smart, I never would have thought of that. ZombieSlayerRC
In my experience, zombies were of the same strength as your average human, and endowed no extra strength, just the fact no pain is felt. So to say that it will fracture a bone, goes a bit to far, maybe some muscle damage through armour, true. But its teeth, now also rotting, and so forth, will most likely break before breaking your bone, unless you suffer from some form of calcium deficiency, or the zombie is biting you with his molars, then it would be feasible that he could break a bone, but as he would have to have no cheeks to bite with a molar, that, though not infeasible, is highly unlikely. So just imagine a strong pinching pain through leather, probably stopped pretty fast if you use a small hand pick axe as a weapon.. everyone forgets, that its shape will pierce hard rock, so therefore a structure such as a skull is no problem, it would break through, and in most cases damage the brain. causing a fatal, or paralysing shot to your foe, living, or non living . deathsrising
A very good item to have is the "FX-1 FlexForce Riot Control Suit". It is nearly indestructible and is impervious to zombie attacks. You can find them for $429.99 and up (maybe less). They provide protection from blood entering your mouth and eyes, they are a dark color to prevent you from being seen (just remove the white front label), all you need to do is buy the boots, the gloves, face mask, and the helmet. These are a great thing to have in your closet for Z-Day. As soon as I raise me some cash I'm buying me a suit. I recommend you buy one too.
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Also, in regards to clothing and protection of this sort... Leather is nearly always a fantastic choice. The only problem is lack of breath-ability, which may cause dehydration and fatigue. Using leather should be done carefully, and layering of other materials (synthetic in particular) should also be considered for personal protection. And a final note on footwear. Steel toed boots are always a fantastic idea, but if you are worried about fatigue or durability, a standard military issue pair of boots can be a good alternative. These boots may be purchased at any military outlet, and even on line for rather cheap.
-EvacMedic
Something that doesn't seem to have been noted on this page so far is sound. Some of that armor, while also being heavy, constraining and generally impractical, will also make a lot of noise to alert the zombies to your presence. This could be true of leather, trench coats, tarps(who really listed that?), and some of the weather appropriate stuff(though rain should create a louder masking sound). Shoes with a loud footfall should also be avoided. Remember, you are surviving, and that requires stealth in many cases. -McSkullcracken
UnUndead: For facial protection I would suggest safety glasses and a surgical mask. This combo would effectively prevent the blood and guts from getting into your eyes, nose, and mouth, and can be found easily. Also, safety glasses are designed to fit around regular glasses, so if you need glasses to see, these give you eye protection without limiting vision.
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Here is my input. You can read a little about me in my profile.
Armor- I definitely like the looks of the Flex-Force Riot Control Suit listed above. I would definitely like to have one of these suits available for certain activities, such as when z-contact is expected in close quarters. However, I would not wear it at all times, as it would cause earlier fatigue. I have a couple pros and cons:
Pros: Bite protection (cut and crush resistant), maintains tight fit of clothing, high flexibility, designed for the closest thing to z-combat, protects from falls and accidents
Cons: Can be grabbed onto and possibly ripped off (Velcro straps), lacks neck and back of legs protection
Clothing- This suit it designed to fit over BDUs (Battle Dress Uniform) or a similar uniform (ACUs, TDUs, ABUs, etc.). I prefer ACUs or TRUs, due to better pocket placement and accessibility.
Boots- Military combat boots are a definite necessity. They are made for heavy use in a variety of terrain. Black leather or tan suede, either one is good. Other people have discussed the benefits of leather over canvas, so I won't discuss it other than to say that leather is hotter, but much more waterproof. Blousing (tucking in) your pants into your boots also will provide less fabric to snag on things and for Z's to grab.
Gloves- Gloves are a necessity. Picking the right glove is very much a matter of choice. Personally, I feel that long cuff gloves made with Kevlar fabric (for cut/tear resistance) with high dexterity are ideal. Wiley X Tactical Assault Gloves are perfect, but expensive.
Headgear- As for a helmet, a riot helmet with face shield would be great for the usage I mentioned for the Riot Suit, but not everyday wear. I don't think a ballistic helmet would be necessary, unless you expect renegade human groups trying to steal your supplies, but that is a whole different story. A bike helmet could be good when travelling in case of falls, crashes, etc. A Boonie style hat would be good in sun and rain. A short brimmed BDU style cap would be better than a baseball cap, because the latter can obstruct vision. Bandannas are excellent. Have plenty of them. Or just make them from discarded shirts and the such.
Eye wear/Face Protection- I do not agree with the paint ball mask idea. It would greatly reduce peripheral vision, unless you go for a high end, fog proof, wraparound visor design. Even then, some vision obstruction will be likely. Eye wear is important though. Tactical sunglasses offer a variety of styles, but a wraparound, minimal frame design is good. Look for the kind with some type of padding around the lenses that prevents wind, dust, and fluids from entering your eyes form the sides. Make sure you have a few pairs, because no matter how good they are, they will probably break. Also get some clear lens shooting glasses in a similar style. Some brands offer detachable earpieces that you can replace with a goggle strap. This is very good. Do not get glasses with swappable lenses. You think it sounds good, but it just means they are easier to lose the lenses out of. For the sunglasses, get orange or yellow tint, grey or dark green tint will only limit the acuteness of your vision.
Accessories- Kevlar sleeves with thumb holes can be worn under or over clothing. They provide cut/tear resistance, but do not offer crushing or blunt trauma. Neck gators are EXTREMELY versatile and useful in all climates. If you don't have one, get one now. Even for everyday, non-Z related use, they are great. You can wear them in a dozen different ways, and use them for a variety of things like bandannas. They can cover your mouth and neck to prevent blood splatter getting around your mouth or on your skin.
If anyone wants to discuss this further, you can e-mail me. Check my profile.
-TEBBEN
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A suggestion for someone who's got limited access to proper helmeting, I'd recommend obtaining a paint ball mask and several pieces of cloth such as bandannas. The paint ball mask itself will protect most of your face from hazardous fluids splattering all over you, as well as having the benefit of designating friendlies from friendly fire as previously noted with bandannas. Granted, the portion around the mouth is still open enough to allow fluids to fly in, which is where the cloth comes in. Simply place the cloth over your mouth area, it should act as a perfectly breathable filter and protect you from a splatter or two so long as you switch out the cloth almost as soon as it comes into contact with the fluids. While not perfect it may save your skin a couple times from the inherit danger of fluids getting in your mouth, nose, eyes or other open facial wounds. Also in the event of a military force using chemical weapons simply piss on the cloth, place it over your mouth and nose and run for it (preferably to the north or south where the wind is less likely to blow). While not perfect, and only provides limited protection against gases attacking the respiratory system, the technique did save quite a few lives on the French side during World War I. -Piratelord78
This page is for Protective Clothing only. The other categories that where on the Weapons and Gear page with this category are listed as following:
codeman
i myself would cut up a trampoline and use the material to make a suit.....or at least put it under my regular clothes...
Thrawn5
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If I could not find any protective clothing whatsoever I would put several layers of duct tape on any clothing that I would be wearing, duct tape does not allow your clothing to breath and it can severely inhibit flexibility/speed but it would stop a zombie from puncturing your clothing for a while (have you ever tried to bite/cut through 20 layers of duct tape? it takes a long time).
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Spraymachine
I have designed an ideal bite proof suit with my 2 hours of spare time between classes today.
- Under layer- Class A bio-hazard suit, under $50 and breathable (don't want zombie liquid getting on me) [Found in chemical supply stores]
- Headgear- Depending on the situation, Kevlar hood with a gas mask and a neck racing collar, or a lightweight full face racing helmet with racing collar [Kevlar hood-Army Surplus, Gas mask-Chem/Army supply store, Helmet+Collar-motorcycle shop]
- Torso/legs- Mild fire resistant jacket and pants. They are tough, cut proof (to an extent), and won't let Zack bite through [Some racing shops, Janitor supply shops, Uniform shops]
- Gloves- Damascus tactical gloves are made to not restrict, offer more cut protection than Kevlar, and are fireproof to boot [Army surplus/motorcycle store]
- Knee Pads- Damascus pads provide amazing protection for your knees (you need to be able to run), and are non-slip for grip [motorcycle store]
- Boots- BlackHawk Warrior Wear boots, these are some of the best tactical boots out there in my opinion. They provide good ankle support, can support a lot of weight well, and you can run in them too. [Outdoor stores/Army surplus]
- Accessories- Tactical vest, hip holster, baton holster, hydration pack, backpack, etc. [Outdoor/Army supply stores]
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- Just a thought, what about if you used the hard parts of elbow pads and sewed them together for armor? Maybe?randomcooper
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Hal-5 robo suit
This device has made its way around the Internet and back, but luckily the technology has yet to fall into the Wrong Hands. Weighing about 33 pounds, the suit will nearly double your strength autonomously by tracking electrical nerve impulses through your skin via electromyogram sensors.
These pages are filed under Other kinds of Weapons and Gear and under Weapons and Gear
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zurvivor: As most people won't be near a police station when an outbreak occurs, or capable to raid the station's storage for riot gear for that matter, I was thinking that it should be possible to make fairly good antized-armor out of ordinary PET soda bottles (the larger ones). Cut out pieces and strap on or wear under your clothes. It would be ultralight and I have a hard time believing that any normal non-armed person could penetrate it except for maybe with a broken and sharp bonepipe. If any part of the armor starts to get worn, just find the nearest convenience store or dumpster to replace it!
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR (Short List)
By Lt Col Andering J Andy REDDSON
DOS:
Personal Protection Suit: The ultimate zombie survival gear is- Fire Fighting Turnout Gear. It’s heavy and hot, true, b
ut not that heavy and hot; And it’s bite PROOF; Not “bite resistant” but PROOF, and in fact beartraps would have trouble punching through (they’ll break your bones, maybe draw a little bit of blood, but certainly not bite true through). Be sure to wear it with the collar UP, and taped in place if necessary. An adequate alternative is heavy-gauge coveralls, such as Carharts mentioned above (be sure to sew the legs shut first).GLOVES: Wear them. Leather work gloves. Not necessarily electricity rated, but certainly work-rated. The longer the better. TAPE these (with duct tape) to the sleeves of your turnouts if you're on the security detail.
Helmets: Again, wear them (unlike gloves, wear these all the time). Fixed visor motorcycle helmets provide the maximum degree of protection, both from biting and from vector agents (spit, blood, etc). If a fixed visor can not be obtained, pin the visor in place by drilling a hole through the rotators and screwing it in place. (Be certain to grind or cut off excess screw.)
DON’TS:
Denims, Tarps, etc: They can be torn and torn off. Do not bother depending your life to these.
“Weather Appropriate” Attire: If you are wearing your appropriate Personal Protective Gear, you will be warm and dry in winter, and with proper caution not overheat in summer.
Non-Encasing Helmets (that is, a helmet that does not fully encase your head, including visor): If it does not fully cover your head, a skin job WILL bite you no matter how many times you crush his skull, cut off his head, burn his body, AND piss on his ashes- Because his buddy will sneak up behind you and bite you.
Wet/dry suits (especially dry suits): These retain heat (this is what they’re designed to do), and dry suits retain sweat, leading to discomfort at best, heat stroke at worst. Worse, they provide no protective value; Skin jobs can rip those open rather easily.
Hats: If you’re wearing your helmet, you HAVE a hat. If you’re wearing a hat, you have to take your helmet OFF to put the helmet ON in the event of an attack- And will not end up as lunch, but as a recruit. If you wanna become a skin job, fine- Wear a hat.
“Body Armor” (Kevlar): Totally useless against skin jobs as they can’t use guns anyways. If you do get into a battle with the only types of enemies Kevlar can protect you from, humans, your problems are a whole lot worse than you thought you knew. However, you would be well-cautioned to wear Class I body armor anyways, especially if going into a known sector of raider and slaver activity.
See also tactics for further discussion of gloves/smooth hands.
Zombie Survivor Fashion Don'ts:
Trench Coat:In spite of their commonly held notion of being safe, reliable and so forth, trench coats provide very little protective value against skin jobs. What protective value they do provide, against the rain primarily, is easily provided, in turn, by a proper protective ensemble (hard or soft).
Realistically, trench coats are primarily intended as dress-uniform items, and if your situation has risen to the point to justify dress uniforms, then you’re either doing something wrong or right; Either you should be out there hunting the skin jobs down en masse, or you did and every last dammed one of them is DEAD again (as nature intended).
Note: The above statements ONLY apply to certain thin fabric trench coats (the ones made for fashion alone)... Now, if your trench coat happens to be made of leather, canvas, or some other durable material (intended for work, etc)... By all means, WEAR IT. It not only makes a nice fashion statement, but it has all of the advantages of a leather coat, plus the leg protection.
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