So you have a safe house, fellow survivors, established your sanity, and everything seems all right. But there is one problem--medical science as we know it does not apply to zombies. Voodoo and magic are common theories as to why Z day may occur, and if you are going to survive in this world, reclaiming it will be important. I'd like for people to offer their own strategies in taking the planet back from the grips of the grimy undead.
(28 days, 28 weeks) however, can be killed by an attack to the heart, because, for all intents and purposes, rage infected humans are still alive, so to speak, not having undergone the same process of necrosis as Romero zombies or Solanum zombies. Second, Mr July, it is true that the spinal column is an effective place to strike, as it would cripple a zombie. But remember this: while a skull is hard to penetrate, for a blade to reach a living mans spinal column would have to travel through the ribs, the lungs, the intestines, etc. while a blade through necrotic flesh WOULD get through, whether it retains enough force to sever the spinal column is another matter. Also, you use the example of a blade in a coconut, which is very true, and yet you seem to forget that the torso is filled with organs and ribs, and would any normal person find it any easier to remove a blade from the ribs of a zombie then the skull. If you will let me use an analogy, imagine sticking a sword inside a balloon filled with a full skeletal structure, organs, etc. and then try to pull it out quick enough to eliminate another meat-sack lunging for you neck. It won't work - again, don't aim for the spine, unless you are very confident on your skills. If you're just an average Joe, don't go for it. Plus, even if you took out the spine with a sword, you would be close enough for a bite, as the head will still be active, lacking the lethal attack to the head. This isn't even talking about how loud a zed moans. Even if they were crippled, they could call hundreds more to your location. Even if you were long gone, that could pose a significant threat. The brain would still be the best bet for a kill. Sure, these might be "magic" zombies, but the human brain is still an effective foci, besides the heart, of course. however, if you were able to "kill" a zombie with anything besides a head-shot, it would fail to be a zombie as it is commonly known. Third, July, why would you go without covering the rest of your body? Sure, arm coverings may protect your appendages, and they might be able to survive a bite, but zeds don't just bite, they gnaw, they pull, they drag you off your feet. Would arm coverings protect you from one zed? Sure. Five zeds? Maybe. Ten? Twenty? A hundred? I don't think so. However, all of this is just speculation, so believe all you want. I can only hope we all live in a free country. All i ask is you heed my advice. IF zombies were to come ( note i said if ) i would hate to blow your newbie brains all over my already fortified house.


Alphaone
i have a plan for a community that is mostly in a circle on a hill right next door to my house with woods to the back and a pond on one side down the hill well my idea was of coarse simple wooden walls at ground lvl but for my main offensive from roof top to roof top have rope bridges with marksmen on top with anything from guns bows catapults or just throwing rocks to pass the time you know you just can run out of rocks

for power and lights there are several key points for windmills there will be a blacksmith and medical buildings on the inner circle and a large double door trapping gates at the front

Kadski
I would get riot pants (They are fortified against attack for the SWAT teams), and a riot jacket, and a riot helmet. Then I would get my 2 katana and work my way through the zombies. The most basic katana strike of Eshin-Ryu-Iado is supprisingly a decapitating one. Most people say that decapitation isn't good enough but if you decapitate them they cant moan and you can just crush theyre head with a bludgeon during your, "After Sweep".


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Plan Royal

by shadowdoug

since i live in lansing MI. this is a good plan. first i would gather my freinds and family and we would head out in tractors and large trucks. then we would head up north to muskegon. to get supplies also there we would take the WOLVERINE (one of those small freighter boats, or mabe a large car boat) up to upper pennicula. take a stop at a port to pick up more supplies. then its off to isle royal. once there we would set up a camp. after several of days of setup we would try to gather more people. then when we're all settled in, we will start chopping trees. once we have enough trees we would start to build our castle!!!! we would mostly live off of fish so we would only need a few cows for milk. but ofcourse we would bring all 16 of my rifles and shotguns! =) this will take about 4-5 months to build this giant fortress. if we didn't bring the trucks it would take several years. so this is good. then when ever we absolutly need to we will make raids on towns for supplies. also i think we might be above the frozen line. which is good. plus when the president needs to nuke someplace, i won't get hurt by it. also we will have two dogs for anyone to try and enter my village fortress. it will be a dog sniffer test followed imediatly by a vilsual inspection. my cats can also come along too if they want. but we will make our goods and use furs as currency! this is because they will be a VERY saught after cammodity! also traps and other items will be bartered with. guns and ammo will be the second most sought after items. if any of you will want to join me, the base will be on the west side about 300 feet form the shore. the main reason that i chose to colonize this island is because it is in the middle of a terridying great lake and there is no people there!!! (except for a research center) there are no building there. and the only living creatures there are deer and moose. (and other wild animals) so if you want to be part of my fuitful colony you need to be responsible and be able to fallow my laws that govern all!!!!!!!!

--> shadowdoug

byates - - I live in a rural area, nearest town of over 10K is an hours drive away thru open farm land. Big hunting area, so there are a lot of guns along the way. Large farm equipment, hard to climb up on and heavy enough to crush small cars. Several swamps, Zed stuck in the mud would be an easy target. Anyone consider that some groups might be considering using Zed as a method to reduce population pressure? Pass laws to disarm the people, create policies to concentrate populations, then seed Zed's in the population centers.

Toomin:
Jack of Blades, when you talk about 10, 20, or 100 zeds, I doubt any sort of body armour could protect you from an attack. It would be better to have light armour on high risk parts of your body (i.e. arms, neck or face) than to cover yourself entirely with heavy sports equipment or body armour. Also I think when Mr. July said to attack the spine he meant go for the back of the neck, not go through the torso to hit the spine. That would probably be just as much of a sword sticker as getting stuck in the skull. When you stab into meat or pull out, it has a tendency to stick to a blade and would require a lot of force to remove it. Although I do agree that decayed flesh would be easier to penetrate than living and therefor a ghoul may be easier to take down than it is imagined (depending on how fresh they are, eww). I also would have to agree with Copping1000's idea that killing a Zombie as early as possible would probably save countless others from 'Zombification'.
However, as ambitious as many of these plans are, caution must be the number one concern when executing them. Like Alicestar said: "..never place yourself in more danger than is needed to.." What's the point in trying to kill the undead if you act too rashly and become one yourself.
Personally I wouldn't put any faith into explosives when dealing with Zeds. Although destroying as many ghouls as possible is important, keeping yourself and the group you're apart of alive is infinitely more so.

jack of blades

toomin, you are entirely correct when you say that no armour (barring, say, a shark suit) would protect you, and i do agree that lighter , bite-proof armour is the way to go, if only so avoiding zeds is easier. my point was that simply having arm coverings is not enough. Also, mr july MAY have meant that the spine at the back of the neck is a good place to strike, however, if that was so, why not go for a full decapitation? There would be absolutely no advantage gained from a stab through the spine at the neck. In fact, it would take longer. In his own words, "I don't know how many of you have handled a sword but shove it in to a coconut and try to pull it out quick enough to eliminate another coconut lunging for you neck." if we just swung the sword at the back of the neck, the spine would be severed, the head removed, and would still have momentum to spin and grapple the other lunging "coconut'. I just dont see any advantage gained from it, whether it is speed or lethality-wise.

DustinEchos104: i think that the easiest way to summarize offence against zombies is be careful and thourough, use mass traps/burnings/tower methods to take out bulk in an area but what is the most important is making sure that each and every one of those downed zeds is actually good and dead, burn the lot of them, esp. the heads, and making sure you find all the ones in places where they couldn't come after you, like the people who hung themselves after they got bite then reanimated hanging from a ceiling without any thought processes on how to get down or the ones caring family members lock in the basement hoping they will get better. i plan on setting up a few bases with massive gasolined trenches that we draw zombies to and then burn them after they fall in coming at us, once we take care of that, break up into 4 man sweep teams to go though everything with fastidious attention to detail, this is the reason why trained units, such as ex-military, will have the highest survival rate, they take finish everything down to the chunks of zombie left in the mouth of the dead dog that tried to eat it

roxas33: Well me being a student in spec ops and general millitary tatics and stratagy I would first do some recon followed by a choper flyover to anounce to any survivors to evacuate or go below street level then a brutal artillary barage to damage or destroy as many buildings as possable to reduce house to house fighting. After that a massive infantry force will enter with whatever weapons we have. Secure the perimter and then below streets. Followed by a building of a huge wall and secure the a 20 feet clear vision in other words make sure that there is nothing that can obstruct vision of a target.

Z13: My house would be one of the best places to stay for a Z-invasion. I have 1 double barreled shotgun, 4 pistols with over 1000 rounds in my house. And I also have an assult rifle with around 5000 rounds of ammo. We also have around 3 months of canned food and water to last. Hundreds of candles and matches. Not to mention, I have like 5 game systems, and if the power goes out, We have 4 seperate Nintendo DS's with portable recharging stations that rely on batteries. We also have around 10 flashlights and around 500 diffrent batteries in my house. Im pretty much set ^.^

Spraymachine: My zombie offensive would go like this for fast-ish zombies: My zombie hunter partner and I would use a bike as it doesn't require alot of maintenance, and is quite if you need to escape. If Z-day comes and I am able, I will definitely be making one of these. It is a light weight swiveling office chair mounted on a tandem bike with foot pegs on the rear wheel.. The "gunner" pedals with the "front" man to the destination. When they lure enough zombies, they will quickly stop, the gunner will swivel his seat around, get his rifle out, then the front will start to pedal again. The shooter would carefully take aim with the (non)silenced Ruger 10/22 .22 caliber rimfire rifle, and make some undead dead. If the zombies prove to move slow (1-2 mph), you could avoid the 2 person contraption and just leapfrog using mountain bikes (1 person fires while others retreat). If they moved at 2mph, you could leapfrog with 100y intervals giving the the person about 1.5 minutes to reload magazines and prepare for his turn to snipe from the same distance. With a 2 man fire team, it can work, but it would be difficult to reload and start shooting in such a short period of time. If you had 2 sniper/spotter teams, the spotters could reload while the sniper is shooting, making the leapfrog intervals shorter........ Or you could just have 3 of your friends in the back of a pickup truck shoot zombies trailing behind.


Hallaman: Alicestar, thats a good plan but slayer is right, you have to have a retreat plan. This is a basic rule of strategy, if there is something that you think the enemy wouldn't do, but would destroy you if they did do, you plan for it. Not that running from a zombie horde and running into another would destroy you, but it would be a royal pain to have to run from both. What you need to do is not set the fuse and have a safe spot a certain distance away, but light the fuse and run like hell, but quietly, and along a predetermined route that has a few people to keep the zombies away from it back to a mini safe house thats more of a rest stop where you catch your breath and head back to base.

Anyway, enough advice, my zombie plan is simple(the greatest things in life often are),there is a large library in my city, like 3 or 4 stories large, that i would take refuge in, besides having something to read, i would have plenty of fuel if i needed it. Once i have the library, i would gather survivors, mainly my friends and family, gather as many supplies as i could,barricade the doors, destroy the elevator and stairs from the first to second floor, and wait it out, occasionally making supply/kill zombie trips into the city.


GrantHatman
I think that reclaiming rural areas first would be a good idea. Start at a farm house or something and go from there. Move on to little towns, medium sized towns, cities, eventualy the world. Start small, that is the plan for me.

13th.Casualty
Alright, what we want here is to search and destroy every single zombie in an area so it can be rendered inhabitable. You know, you don't have to plan some kind of army-versus-army kind of war here. Might is not always right. Cook up ingenious traps that would be able to kill zombies by the hundreds instead of arming every able-bodied survivor and launching a huge military offensive. Here, think about this. Take a giant, sturdy wooden box that can house at least 100 zombies. Get a box made of bulletproof glass with some holes in it and put one of your guys there. Have him/her start screaming like hell or crank up 5 radios playing heavy metal songs (of course, you have to have that guy wear earplugs). When there are enough zombies there, get him/her out through the roof or something, lock the zombies in, and set them on fire. As supposed to training 50 or so surivors to kill and have them massacre undead by the hundreds, this would be a wiser choice. You will need only to risk one life as supposed to 50. Also, no ammo or supplies will be wasted here. Just some wood, nails and flammable objects. It also takes less time, because you only need to construct a giant wooden crate, as supposed to training everybody to kill.

Once you have destroyed all undead in an area, I recommend burning all dead bodies, turned or not. This will not only kill the zombie in case they are still alive, but also kill parasite that is housed in the corpse. Clean any speck of blood or bodily fluid in case there is still any parasites in there.

Now the most important part: prevention. Just because all the zombies are dead and burnt to a crisp, do not let down your guard. Someone might've missed a spot in which a parasite is still living in, and some clueless 5-year-old might lick it off the floor thinking it's apple juice and turn. You will have to live as if there is still zombies outside banging on your door every night. Sleep with a sub-machinegun under your pillow and an escape route that you dream about every night. Set up night watches, and, if possible, set up some kind of wall around your newly established village (think "I Am Legend"). Even if the whole world has been sterilized of undead, live as if they are crawling the streets at night, or living in caves, planning some kind of comeback. Do not go into an isolated area alone and unarmed, without method of communication. You never know where they will strike next. Live with that readiness--with that fear--for at least a year after the outbreak was over.

Again, do not let down your guard. NEVER LET DOWN YOUR GUARD.


SurviverBoyd

Id like to point out some thing here,, If you asume as I do that the Zombie uprising will come from some kinde of virus (man made or other) there is an inportant side note to consider. viruses tend to grow stronger and as humans on the run tend to gett weaker (lack of food/sleep/) isnt it possible that after some time the virus will start spreading more easely say... throu the air..? for all we know it migth all ready be airborn just that our bodys at there curent state are strong enuff for us not to notis, mabe its only now in our prime health that we nead full boddy contakt with the virus for it to spread?.
Yes all of the above is just speculation but I think its wise to consider stuff like this as it migth turn your thougts to packin a couple of extra vitamins in your survival pack.
--lett me know what you think-

Jack of blades- I'm sorry, but i just don't get what you mean. What do you mean by "viruses tend to grow stronger and as humans on the run tend to gett weaker (lack of food/sleep/)" i mean, yes, energy wise, humans do lose energy without eating or sleeping, but very rarely does that effect there ability to combat disease. However, while a virus may mutate, by the point it has, most people may have grown a "resistense" to the weakened, airborne version. Unless, when you say airborne, you mean that a zed sneezes on you, but that is something for another day. I just fail to understand the point you are trying to convey.

13th.Casualty
I think what he's saying is that what if the zombie parasite is airborne, kinda like influenza or chickenpox. I have always thought of a zombie parasite almost like HIV or rabies. You know, contact of bodily fluid. But I also want to point out something. Not every person's immune system are rigged the same way. Some may be very weak, while some can resist Solanum, the T-Virus, and Malaria at the same time without even noticing. Sure, vitamins would help, but a parasite that strong, what with the reanimation and not needing any other major organs but the brain, I doubt a little Vitamin C would help with that sort of thing. We'll just have to count on the way our parents made us, a la "I Am Legend." If it is transeferred by contact, we have a chance. If it is airborne, more than three-quarters of would-be undead hunters or survivors will turn and die.

Kadski
Just for a side note were alking about the generic zombie virus, IE get bit ot cut by a Z and you get infected. If that ever happend where it was airborne we could call it GVA (G Virus Air). But for right now were discusing the common zombie virus. Also For my zombie killing spree idea I would get a H2 hummer and reiforce it with a chain link fence on the windows. Then I would make it so you could fill it up with gas from the inside and I would add a second tank that was on the inside of the car (Hence being able to fill it up from the inside) so that tank would drain in while the other was getting used. Then I would arm everyone with Semi Auto Assult Riffles (G3, M21, ect) and we would drive around, and make alot of noise. Whenever we got enough Gs on our tail we would stop, pick them off, and repeat for about 4 hours a day.

Kelen_Moonhunter
I honestly don't see much of a "offense against zombies" at least not during the apocolype that most of us here are thinking of. There is survival. You fight what you have to in order to make it and, depending on your mindset, your companions to make it to the next day. I am not in the military so I won't be apart of any governmental fight-back and I don't plan on joining some vigilante or mercenary free-runners army made up of citizens to fight the dead en mass. I will destroy the undead that I must in order to survive and ensure the safety of the ones I am charged with caring for, not jump into some large scale "war" if you want to call it that because it will be one sided. The dead won't see it as war. All they'll do is do what they have been "programmed" to do. I will probably do my share of killing don't get me wrong but as for helping to "clear out" the infestation, count me out until the numbers drop drastically.

Resident-Adam
This is true. Survival should always take precedence over an all out war. The only time one should consider open battle is if supllies run low and the zombie infested area is navigable and the threat somwhat mitigable. Once again leave your most valuable assests at the "headquarters", use a "shoot and loot" policy, engage the threat just enough to incap, and keep it moving, worry about more accurate shooting when u gotta defend the homefront.

AZ-Terminator001
After reading up on the Zombies, all bodily funtions are transferred to the brain, so follow these experimental Anti-Zombie attack manuveres:
Decapitation. The virus is transferred by saliva, and even if you're the living dead, you can't drool from your fingertips( for those suffering Paranoia, dump the zombie in acid or obliterate the body)
High-Calibre bullets. Deasert eagles, High-end Sniper-Rifles, hell, even some machine guns have the capability to blowing off limbs, so aim for the head and BOOM! buh-bye Zombie Boy
And one more thing. Although there are guns without a rending quality to their bullets, some make up with the sheer number of bullets fired that they can shear a body in half.
Happy Hunting.


Sporezombie
My plan for taking back our world is simple, start from your settlement and work your way outward in waves taking more land and secureing it as you go. The weapon i would equip my troops with is the AK-47 on semi-auto. It rarely jams and is very easy to use. I would use a old movement of lineing up your men in a straight line and postioning another row standing behind them and fireing volly after volly into a horde, in the rear there would be men who would race back and forth from the frontline to supplies giving the troops ammo and whatever. There would also be reserve men to take the place of someone if they had to rest. Also the groups would be drilled so they can pull into a square if they are flanked. When on campain men are drooped off if zombies are found in a area at a ratio of 2 men per 1 zombie seen. They will join the rear when done. Transport will be buses designed like the one off Land of the Dead and Dawn of the Dead remake.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PIEKILLSZOMBIES to take back earth i would create a spartan program, give thenm the mark VII armor and send em out to slaugethr they dont need guns... they can flip tanks.... and zombies cant bit thru that enery shield... the flood r like zombies on steroids, using meth time 10000000000000000

Residentmagnum

To fight a zombie one must first study their enemy, I recommend watching a lot of zombie movies

Take a self defense class to understand something about martial arts there are many different styles

Buy a gun if possible and learn to use it

if Z-day doesn't happen then you will be safe from other humans

Try to stay in shape as this will help in any situation

Most zombies die if they are decapitated

1. Axe
2. Bat
3. Sword

If this doesn't kill a zombie it should slow them down and blind it

some zombies may be stronger than others next think about armour to avoid taking damage

1. padded armour is good (Sports)
2. leather armour is also a good ideal (medieval armour)

remember it must be bite proof not bullet proof

Tips & Tricks to remember

• Blind
• Run
• Tripping
• Sniping
• Don't get bit