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elephant guns
O.K. say you had all the ammo you would ever need, would you carry a elephant gun or a barret 50. cal rifle? please tell me what you think would be adateges or disadvateges
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May 8 2009, 6:53 PM EDT by
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melee or guns
And please learn to spell
Welcome to the site by the way
I say both, I have guns as well as melee weapons
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May 30 2011, 12:38 AM EDT by
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NO GUN, NO FUN
CONTINUED: Even more disillusioning is watching these trainees leaving the range at days end. The pistols are switched to a different holster-often locked on a body area other than that used at the practice range-and the training girlie ammunition is substituted for uncontrollable hand-howitzer defense loads. Or the final straw: the "defensive training" pistol is exchanged for a minute "concealed carry" version the size of a fleas ear and constructed of some super-secret light weight material scooped off the surface of the Martian landscape. "Much more comfortable for concealed street deployment dont ya know?"
CONTINUED: Sure it is. Of course youll never be able to access it in an emergency, and wont hit an elephants derriere at ten paces even if you could get your grubby mits on it, reacting to the visual stimulus of an unforseen for-real physical threat. The bottom line is the criterion isnt so much what weapon and/or ammo combination happens to be your choice for personal defense. The crux is that apart from excelling in the fields of marksmanship and weapon manipulation, you have to be able to access the gun or all is for naught.
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Jun 28 2009, 2:15 PM EDT by
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Guns for self-defense
I was wondering, what makes good guns [such as the AK-47/74, the AR-15, the M14 rifle, the M1 Garand/Carbine, and the M1903 Springfield [among many others]], so good? What makes them so good at being able to defend oneself from invaders that dozens of countries around the world would adopt them as weapons? What makes them so good in a firefight? Is it range? Rate of Fire? Caliber? Please tell me what you think are the defining factors which make guns such as the ones which I listed earlier so good? What makes a "good" assault rifle [such as the AK or the AR], and what makes a "bad" assault rifle [such as the M16A1]?
Oh, and also, could anyone please give me the maximum range of a .408 CheyTac match-grade bolt-action rifle with a 35 inch free-floating barrel [a bit longer than the Lebel rifle], and other match grade features [as well as a GPS computer system [like the CheyTac Intervention computer system [look up future weapons-CheyTac Intervention on You Tube, and you'll see what I meen]] which compensates for windage, bullet drop, and even earth rotation] [and assume that the bullets are hand-loaded and perfectly weighted, and are using whichever powder gives it the longest range], with an almost perfect scope, and with an excellent shooter behind it? For maximum range, please give the range at which someone could shoot to the center mass [I'm using this info for anti-raider defense]. I've heard that the Lebel has a maximum range of 4,500 meters+ ! So, if you lengthened the barrel [thereby giving the rifle a longer range], and used a more accurate bullet [the .408 CheyTac is the most accurate bullet ever made], how far could THAT gun shoot to the center mass with an excellent scope and an EXPERT shooter behind it? How far could the same exact gun shoot with the same expert shooter and the same almost perfect scope using .22LR bullets [since the .22LR is lighter and therefore has a flatter tragectory]?
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Feb 13 2010, 6:59 PM EST by
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The Ultimate Zombie Gun: The 12 Gauge
Some say a single survival gun should be an AR-15 for its light weight, wealth of accessories and fast handling. Others stand by the venerable AK for its reliability. Still others swear as long as you have a good sidearm you could want nothing else.
I disagree, I say the 12 Gauge is the best and most easily acquired. It is hard to beat a 12 bore for flexibility and versatility. Stuff it with slugs and youre good on zombie sized targets out to 100 meters. Feed it some buck-shot and you have some more up-close-and-personal stopping powere that anything that doesnt sport a tripod or an impact fuse. Switch to light birdshot and you can even feed your family.
A Remmington 870 slide action seems the best choice, and doesnt make a large dent in your savings. You can also swap out the stock with a simple screwdriver or hex wrench an configure it with a bare pistol grip or folding stock, but those are uncomfortable to me. I say the Speedfeed pistol grip stock is the most comfortable and handy. It holds 2 spair amo maggazines on either side of the stock that are spring loaded and hold two extra rounds. Accessing these and feeding them into the shotty are very simple and provide you with 4 easy extra rounds.
Its alot easier to blow off a zombies head with a shotty than stand there and line up your red dot or your ACOG or whatever and land a precision shot in the forehead.
So what do you think? Agree? Disagree? And why? Let me know, Semper Fi!
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Mar 6 2011, 12:28 PM EST by
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A Good Ol' Fashioned Anti-Sociopath Gun.
"A 12 gauge Sagia with a backpack full of drum mags loaded with slugs. A high cap .45 auto pistol, like a G21 with the Kriss mag extention, which converts a 13 round mag into a 30 round mag. Lots of large caliber bullets would be ideal in this situation." Big bullets your say?
I would want to dual wield .50 AE Desert Eagles in chrome finish. Thats the kind of stuff the hero would have in a movie. Movie guns for a movie scenario equal win for me!
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Apr 22 2011, 7:58 PM EDT by
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The S.I.D.
to own and shoot, and to be sure, Mike’s own antique gun collection would have made Ted Nugent blush, but he didn’t carry them on the job. Better to use
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Mar 25 2008, 8:27 PM EDT by
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nice
LOL.
Although, to the 5.56, while I wouldn't use it for elephants, I find it to be a decent round. I've killed larger animals than a gopher with a less powerful round than the 5.56.
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Oct 27 2009, 5:25 PM EDT by
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bullet that will end any zombies day
hey whoa whoa hey!
i was just saying, if i ran across one and the gun to shot it with and i had a zombie to shoot (medium range, cant get to me)....it would be worth it....i mean come on!!! the damn thing can take out a elephant! even if i 'just' hit the body mass, if were talking rager. ITS. GOING. TO. DIE....if we talking walking corpses with jelly 4 blood (fat chance) , splatter facter would be entertainment in itself, and musle and bone dammage would leave it immoble....or in peices... im not saying id be carrying it as my primary, it would be a 'entertainment' gun, shoot off a couple rounds to blow some zeds away...laugh a bit, then trash it...GEEEZ....buzz killas
and whos the moron (troll/noob/tween) who sayz they can kill 6 on a straight through shot
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Dec 1 2009, 5:16 PM EST by
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Weapons page
"Actually I'm better at historical weapons.
The modern stuff not so much. Most of what I know I picked up here." And if you're so great on historical weapons, what is the WWII Elephant gun? i know, but do you?
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Jun 20 2010, 5:48 PM EDT by
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Animal Tranquilizers: Z-Day Weapons?
Tranquilizers as depicted in fiction are extremely unrealistic because as any anesthesiologist knows, determining the exact amount of drug needed for the patient (or here the target) is an exact science. The amount of drug used for a child would simply render an adult drowsy or have no effect, while the stuff you use to knock out an elephant would be fatal to the people you see here. It also doesn't take effect instantly like Snake is able to do, so the sentry you just shot in the neck would end up shooting at you and alerting the camp for a few minutes before finally dropping.
The best possible use I can see for tranquilizer dart guns is an emergency weapon, as an overdose of the drug can kill and a needle in the face is certainly debilitating to your fighting ability.
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Dec 9 2011, 2:17 PM EST by
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Surpassing the .50 BMG
We all know that the .50 is a huge bullet. But if you want a little more oomph, what about an elephant gun? I'm not talking about elephant gun cartriges like a .375 H&H or a .35 Winchester but rounds like a .458 or a .700NE even a 4-bore. That could definetly decapitate a zombie. They are incredibly rare but if you found one and found ammo would you use it?
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an all around rifle
we always talk about "which is the best gun" or do you prefer "gun x or gun y?"
what i want to know is this, if you can only carry 1 long gun i.e. rifle/shotgun what would it be? thats not counting a sidearm.
im thinking a 12 ga pump shotgun. its a little heavier that alot of other long guns, but it is very versitile in its uses. i can hunt large or small game animals, and it is an excellent choice for self defense.
if i KNEW that i was going into a gunfight i would probably choose an AR15 or AK47 because of the high capacity magazines, ease of reloading and because thats what those rifles were made for.
if i could get a 12 shotgun that could hold 30+ rounds and had changable magazines, no question i would choose it for anything
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May 14 2011, 1:26 PM EDT by
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uzi is not magnum
That tells us absolutely nothing.
Magnum was indeed the name of an over-sized champagne bottle. That was when the TERM was first COINED. magnums existed BEFORE then. think back to the early safaris in Africa. Europeans found that their normal hunting rounds had no effect on something as large as an elephant or lion.
This being the time before the elephant gun, the hunters took their own ammunition apart and PUT IN MORE POWDER. to get MORE POWER.
Understand?
The term magnum is used to describe a round with more powder behind it then NORMAL. I am not talking about "the bullet isn't called a magnum because it doesn't say so in the name!"
Those rounds with the elongated cartridge? not magnum why? because they are made for specific guns. those guns were made to accommodate that specific cartridge. What is the default amount of powder on those elongated cartridges?
Magnum is a term used to describe ANY round (special or NOT) that has more POWDER then normal.
Also, have you ever heard of the Super-magnum rifle? just because it has "magnum" in it's name doesn't mean it is a magnum. the word "magnum" was only a tool to describe it's power and effectiveness.
same with any other gun or round out there called a "magnum round." It is only truly a magnum round if it has MORE POWDER then what is NORMAL in that PARTICULAR ROUND.
My statement still stands.
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Jul 25 2008, 10:48 AM EDT by
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Technicals anybody?
Again, if you have an MG. Otherwise, I'd just have a guntruck with lots of guys with rifles in the back to toast some zedskies.
I remember discussing the idea of a anti-armor weapon for defense in such a guntruck. A civilian 12.7mm, or maybe an elephant gun kinda deal. Even a .45-70 govt lever gun could do very bad things to normal and lightly armored vehicles.
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Apr 18 2011, 3:34 AM EDT by John_234
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Mall ninjas REJOICE!
"Nonononono....
It has a 'Recoil Reducer'...
and it probably works only once..." I think its the first pistol with a hydraulic recoil reducer.
The gun never made it past prototype. I wonder why no gun companies didn't jump right on that...... Seems like a good one for Hi-Point to make, and it will cost $175 brand new.
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Mar 27 2010, 10:05 PM EDT by
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Come on now...Be honest.
"of the top of my head i can remember an uzi, at least one ak-47, an m16 or two, and the large double barrel was an 8ga shotgun. im not sure about the shotgun though.
my response to the op.
i have never decided to get a gun because i saw it in a movie but there are many guns in movies that i have/want. its mostly just different customized 1911's and jules star 9mm from pulp fiction. i have a star 9mm but its not nickle plated with pearl grips." Yes I remember those and an elephant gun - tremors, right?
Yea same, I just gotta have it catch my eye and I look it up and study it first. It's gotta come naturally for me.
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Jul 2 2010, 12:26 AM EDT by
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What's your zombie theme song?
"Whether picking off zombies from a rooftop with your rifle or defending your life from surrounding zombies with your handgun or melee weapon.
Mine would be Rammstein- Mein Herz Brennt " Aint no rest for the wicked-Cage the Elephant
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Aug 20 2010, 11:46 PM EDT by
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High End Gear & Weapons (You wish you owned)
Desert Eagle MK.II .79 caliber Magnum. of course it would be pretty damn hard to shoot it, it would be able to blow a hole through an elephant. Or if you could get your hands of one, the WWII elephant gun. (Lahti L-39 20mm anti-tank machine gun that weighed over 108 lbs. unloaded!)
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Jun 20 2010, 5:46 PM EDT by
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if you could have any fictional weapon
1. A rocket propelled grenade launcher launcher (you read that right)
2. The elephant gun (a gun which fires full grown elephants, but is pistol sized)
3. A lightsaber
4. The minigun from just cause 2 (never runs out of ammunition or overheats)
5. A boltgun from WH40k with a metric ass-tone of ammo
6. Shoop da woop in a box
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Feb 6 2012, 12:54 PM EST by
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