Think about it.
"It's ok, Littlejon told me you guys have been having problems with spammers and trolls, so I can understand."Yes, spammers & trolls suck. We try to keep this site as enjoyable as possible. I've told other newcomers similar things & routing out Gold nuggets from this site is quite difficlute if we have people come up & tell us their 'great plans'. There is no great plan, & I think one of the major reasons mods, admins, & frequent contributers are so hard on new comers is that we almost try to scare them away in some degree.
If I haven't said it to you ZMaine, I'll say it here.
Welcome to the ZSDW! Many people's home on the www. It's fun, informative, and just plain out useful. Read some of the threads here & gain some knowledge.
I'm a 30 year old man going on 31 come Sept. 3rd, I'm still learning about how to deal with Disasters & the such.
Aug 20 2009, 10:34 PM EDT by
Things other than Guns & Weaponry
Since our ice storm this year I've been working on getting my home more independent of the grid for at least a couple of weeks. To this end we have purchased a gasoline generator.
*At this point I will digress, a generator is only so good as your ability to get the electricity into the house in a useful way. This means no tangle of extension cords running in a window but rather powering the breaker box in such a way that you can walk from room to room and turn on lights and have a running refrigerator. It is also only as useful as the supply of gasoline on hand. Most generators only run for about 8 hours on a tank of fuel and require something like a gallon an hour to run. We keep 20 gallons in the shed (with fuel sta-bil) but I need to get a better bulk storage tank, I would like to have a 500 gallon tank but costs and logistics ore working against me here.
Also at this point i should admit that my house is pretty large, many people won't have the space for a store room dedicated to dry goods and ammo, but that is something else I am working on.
Whenever I shop now I buy an extra 20-40 dollars worth of dry or canned goods and put them down in the store room (remember to rotate your stock up to the kitchen).
Because we like it we moved to a lake community so there is an endless supply of water, a well stock population of fish and deer wandering through the yard every day.
At the moment we have a small RV (selling soon and probably buying a larger/older one) but I am attracted to the fully self contained world it represents. Taking ones BOL on the road and staying mobile.
All of this isn't to boast about what we've got but to help others think about what might be required to set up and use equipment which may help them survive a short term emergency (2-4 weeks before things either calm down or things have truly gone to hell and we pull out plan B)
Aug 5 2009, 9:40 AM EDT by
Think about it.. really...
The one thing about man is it's ability to change it's enviroment to suite it's needs. Look how much we as a living creatures have done with computers in a relativly short amount of time. It's funny to think that 200 years from now, people will look at our technology like we look at the medieval era. I think if man doesn't destroy itself within the course of the next hundred and fifty years, we will have the capability to thrive, not just on the earth, but on other planets, or on for lack of a better term space ships.
Sep 10 2010, 5:04 AM EDT by
Something to think about
well Im in the Marine Corps, and im not always near my kit except if I run ot to my truck, but thats one thing I am partially worried about, if they enact martial law then id have to bust some heads with my fellow devildogs which would deeply hinder my survival if i was trying to go solo, but its my duty and ill perform it none the less.
Dec 4 2009, 8:33 PM EST by
Thinking about relying on GPS?
I drive a seven-year-old Honda Accord with a GPS system and about 83,000 miles. Last month, my car's GPS went ker-plunk and I had to take it in, seeing as how a) much of my car's center console (the more complex controls -- AC vent and power settings, changing radio presets, clock controls, etc.) worked through the GPS, and b) I was about due for an oil change already, so I might as well get it out of the way right there and then. They took out the GPS and said that they'd call me back within a week when it was ready. Due to a problem with the company that supplied the needed parts (which was based out of California), one week turned into three, and when they finally got it, three weeks turned into four because there were still problems.
So I finally get the GPS reinstalled in my car... only to find that it thinks my car is in Torrance, California rather than Denville, New Jersey, and that somehow, neither the parts company nor the dealership noticed this. (I was able to manually fix this so that my car's position was accurate, but it was still a major oversight on everyone's part.)
Just a word of warning to anybody who plans on making heavy use of a GPS system to find an escape route on Z-Day. Ordinary paper maps and road atlases, while more cumbersome, are far more reliable, much cheaper, and can be picked up at any rest stop or minimart, while a GPS system will probably be one of the first things to start having problems in your car (it was in mine), and you could probably forget about repairing it if it breaks. If you've got one, then hey, might as well use it, but I've scratched it from my list of Z-Day necessities. Hell, even without Z-Day in mind I doubt I'll be buying another car with an integrated GPS. Thanks, but I'll save $500 and use Mapquest and my phone's Google Maps app.
I'm sure most of you already knew this, though.
Aug 26 2011, 10:26 PM EDT by
Embarrassing things about Trophykiller
I got an idea: everyone posts emberassing things about themselves or others! Don't let us have all of the fun.
Jun 14 2011, 6:23 PM EDT by
The thing about boats
Being in the navy, i have a certain fondess towards ships, i think your best bet would be a freighter, the systems on board are designed for a minimal crew of civilians, where as navy ships are packed with sailors, each doing a specific job
One thing you need to think about is, how much food is onboard, is it capable of producing its own water, and how much fuel it has,
The electric generators use the ships fuel supply, granted since you are sitting tied up or not moving the fuel will go down slower, but its still a limited resource.
If the ship can make its own water, i recomend looking for one with a Reverse osmosis system, way better and more efficent then the old evaporator systems
Lastly Radios, i dont know what you imagend to find on your ship but i work on radios on navy ships, and they are very complicated, very percise peices of equitment, unless your trained on that system you wont be able to just turn it on and start chatting away
Jul 26 2009, 10:04 AM EDT by
Interesting things about yourself.
My online personality is a total 180 from my real life persona. I'm actually shy to the point of being reclusive.
I'm 22 (23 this July).
I'm 5'7 and the shortest of the men in my family.
I'm a total bookworm.
I love games of almost all kinds.
I know next to zip about computers.
I'm Conservative in my political leanings.
I'm a member on my church board starting in July.
I can do Waltz and other dances of that sort but modern club dancing mystifies me.
My career goal is to be a chef and to open my own eatery focusing on a bit of everything.
I love japanese cuisine!
I have a nose like a dog which really pisses off the women in my family.
I hate heights.
I have a phobia about needles.
Think that's it...
Jun 14 2011, 8:18 PM EDT by
Hallow's Eve '08 [some things to think about]
I was conversing with another member on here and we both realized that on Hallow's Eve, [Halloween for the n00bs] if the Skinjobs were to rise that it would be among our most vunerable moments....NOT because we'll mistake people dressed as Skinnies for real ones, which we WON'T, rather, that a lot of people on here and not will be away from their guns and their supplies as they're out trick-or-treating, either with family, friends, or on their own...
This ties in a lot with my [botched] thread on Starting Out On Z-Day...However, Hallow's Eve has its own unique challenges to face. Think about these when you go to the Halloween USA or your preferred Costume Shop:
Is this costume going to stand up to a swipe or gnaw from Unkle Zed?
Can I run in this costume?
Can I carry gear or equipment in this costume?
How well does my costume blend in with the local environment?
Is my costume flame-retardant?
Will I be comfortable in this costume for up to several days if not more?
*Will I be mistaken for something which I'm not?
Is the costume wearable in adverse weather?
Is this costume durable at all?
Now, if you're going to a costume party, you should think about these:
How defendable is this location?
How well do I know the people that will be attending?
What supplies or other assets are at the location?
How far is this location in relation to my home?
What are the available routes to and from the location to my home?
I'd like for everyone to THINK before they reply.....If you don't have anything to say regarding the subject, I'd like for you to keep it off the page : )
Oct 19 2008, 5:29 AM EDT by
Do you, or others, think that you are paranoid?
Think? Nooo..... I know I am, I am always sure that joker in the exit lane will pull out in front of me, I am always sure that cop going the other way is gonna turn around and pull me over, I am always sure......well you get the picture.
Seriously I am not really that bad, but I guess you could say I tend to be on the cautious side about things, certain that something will go wrong or fail.
Besides, just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean they arn't after me.... :oP
Nov 2 2010, 3:09 PM EDT by
Another thing about real :Zombies"
This is slightly pertaining to that other guy's thing about the 1946 U.S> zombie virus thing on You-Tube. Weeks after WWII, German scientists were attempting to create some sort of a serum that would bring back their fallen troops to life, as to supply them with more forces. It took them only four months to actually create something with sort of the same effects that they were looking for. It was a serum, Unendilche Soldat ein Serum. they tested it over two hundred times, all with the same results. limited effects of sudden IQ drop, accompanied by loss of patches of skin and hair, then a short, thirty second burst of rage and enhanced durability. since this lasted for one minute at the most, the scientist created a new serum, whose name was never discovered. it's effects lasted longer, but was still terrible. it just caused the patients to be drowsy and unaware of their surroundings, much like the Zombi poison. one unique thing however, was that they couldn't speak. their neurons were so messed up it sounded like the zombies that we envision today. let's just say that it took two of the most top-secret special operations groups in history to destroy the evidence and make sure no one remembered. expect of course of r the U.S. government, which is how i came to know of this.
Jun 19 2010, 1:51 AM EDT by
a little thing about atomatic weopons
"Combat Equipment:I like this guy :D He is a .22 fan too! Ruger 10/22 carbine rifle or Charger for main, Walther P22 or MKIII side. I've also thought about 10/22 main and Charger side since they have the same magazines.
.22 Semi-auto rifle
.22 handgun (for emergency use, .22 because then I have the same ammo for multiple weapons, and I don't need the power of a 9mm)
Crowbar (for melee, SUPER EMERGENCY USE, chosen because it is also a practical tool and I travel light)"
I have to agree that buckshot has massive stopping power, but then again, what guns have the stopping power to keep a horde of 200 zombies at bay? I think the only guns that could do that are a shotgun up close, or a belt fed machine gun. If ammo is not an issue, lets say you found an abandoned military convoy parked outside a base and took all their ammo, then I could justify using full auto to keep zombies at bay, but other than that, I find it hard.
Apr 21 2008, 2:14 PM EDT by
think with logic
I hate to say it, but Brandon's right. We're not haters, Gunner, but on a forum, it's the nature of the beast. Most people will not try to piece together what it is you're trying to say, as they've already discounted what they're trying to read on a subconscious level.
Type your post in Word or some other program with spellcheck, grammar check, etc. and then copy/paste it into here...You'll get much more feedback, and more of it will be positive.
To respond to your post, of course I think about it. And it scares the **** out of me. I'm unfortunate that I've never hunted, rarely fished, and certainly know next to nothing about actual legitimate farming on any scale bigger than kitchen window gardens. Until I learn these things, I'll be a scavenger, or hope to find someone who does know these things to join my group/allow me and mine into theirs.
Oct 22 2011, 1:01 AM EDT by
"This may seem like a weird question, but do the characters remind you of anyone? Like, when you're reading about Matt, what do you picture? Who do you think of?I think of a couple teens and some older adults and two elderly people who still can walk and possibly run. I think of Will's mom as a wrinkly faced, red haired woman who worries way too much, Will's dad as a kisick @$s kinda guy, about 6' 2" with a black and gray-ish stubble and who is beginning to wrinkle. Matt's dad as a larger gentlemen who is 6' 5" and about 245 pounds. His mother is rather oung looking like your every day mom. 5' 7"/ 5' 8" and 130 pounds. Matt as a older teen 6' 3" and slim and muscular. Sarah a standard blonde with a hint of brunette in her hair, a bad-@$ grin. Kinda like a taller, slightly more muscular, blonde Emma Stone from Zombieland. Matt's grandpa as a more Southern, less kick-@$ than Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermy, but as active as a young farm boy, always out and about somewhere. Matt's grandmother, well a regular Grandma, gray hair, short, wearing some sweater, and jeans, and some brass colored glasses. Sarge as a combat hardened man, but still with some sense of humor left. I think Miranda Stuart as a woman I know that went into the National Guard. Fairly short, about 5' 5-6", black hair, but loads of personality and humor and a hint of ADD and not twig skinny but not bulging big. Just perfect. And I'm still thinking on the others.
Jul 15 2010, 5:03 AM EDT by
Now, this is probably something many of you have come to realize, but I thought I'd get it out there for the new people.
Take two guys. One guy has the most awesomest survival plan EVAR! He has tons of weapons, a big 4x4, stocked up food and water, and a good bug out location in mind. The other guy has a small pistol, a Honda Civic, and some cans of Spaghetti-O's he found in his pantry. Who is going to survive?
Well at first glance, the first guy. But now we find out their mindsets. The first guy refuses to consider any other options than what he already planned out. The second guy knows he really has no plan, and must adapt. So now we find out.
The first guy is doing awesome until he finds out that his bug out location is unreachable because it is on the other side of the city, which is now on fire and filled with zombies. He loses it, all hope gone, because his perfectly put together plan has failed and he doesn't know what to do. Now we have the second guy. He realizes his civic isn't going to get him very far, considers options, and takes the fire truck that is planted against a light post outside his house. He then knows he needs more weapons, considers a gun store, rethinks that plan, and finds a shotgun in an abandoned sheriff's cruiser. And so on...
The second guy, although originally not as well off, survived because he had the ability to be flexible. We may all scream NO WALMART! but if that mantra becomes so strong that you refuse to consider a Walmart in any situation, you could pass up valuable supplies. You might have the best plan but if you can't improvise, you will die.
If you think your plan is perfect, it isn't. A zombie outbreak has never happened. No one knows what will actually happen. If you have a plan that is dependent on something, you are screwed. Think logically, be flexible, and consider options.
Aug 17 2009, 3:14 PM EDT by
Something To Think On
I'm taking a short break (bout a week) from the site. I'm feeling irrationally hostile to a lot of people here and it ain't worth getting banned over.
That being said I recently revisited an self-defense site that I really really like reading and found this gem.
While I lack the experience to tell wether or not what he says is true some aspects are definitly true. Not gonna say which ones.
Nope I will not tell you anything about the article. Read it. Discuss it. May it help you in some way or point the way to a shortcoming that (through its discovery) helps you shore up.
Have a good week all. Hope this gets you to thinking. :)
Nov 13 2010, 3:12 AM EST by
So. . . I'm Thinking About Guns Again
Thanks for all the advice.
Perhaps the SKS is the better gun here, but I'm just running through all my options, thanks for the input.
I've been thinking about a shotgun since before I got my .22, and I'm sure it'd be nice to have, even though the ammunition would not be a huge stockpile. I might want to get a reloading kit for it eventually.
As for getting a handgun, it's an interesting thought. While .22 would be the least expensive, I'm not sure I'd want a .22 handgun and rifle. I think my handgun should be more powerful for sudden 'oh sh*t' moments. Kind of a short-range, hard-hitting thing would be my thinking. As for the BOB, it's not that likely I'll really need it very soon, but the Kel-Tec would have other purposes.
As I said, thanks for the input. I'll keep thinking.
Apr 7 2012, 8:18 AM EDT by
BOB additions you might not think about
One thing I've never seen is extra shoes. I don't think an extra pair of mil surplus is in order, but a pair of cheap moccasins weigh about 8-12oz and can be handy.
You don't have to put on your boots to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.
If your boots get wet, they can be used as a backup while your shoes dry
Source of leather for patching gear
If you get a very bad blister, you may need to wear different shoes for a couple of days.
I got a cheap pair at walmart for $10.They have rubber soles and soft leather upper portions. They cinch and tie around the foot so I can run and fight in them. they don't offer as much protection, and I wouldn't try to bug out in them, but I suspect they will be very welcome additions. Mostly I was thinking that if I was dug in somewhere I could wear them around inside and save some wear and tear on my boots, and help to prevent athelete's foot.
Dec 2 2009, 9:44 AM EST by
The little things
Sometimes people dont think about the little things they can do to prepare themselves for the zombie apocalypse or just general for hiking and that sort of thing. Today my subject is about 550 para cord you can have about 10ft accessible on your wrist at all times and its comfortable what im talking about is a 550 cord cobra weave bracelet its easy to make and can be taken apart easily and quickly for easy access to the cord its a nice little accessory for the z-day ill find the link for where you can learn to make one online.
Oh im new to the forums by the way and so far I'm liking its nice to meet you all and i cant wait to be more active on the forums
Jun 28 2010, 3:48 AM EDT by