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ZhunterD's survival plan
As for the refining of the oil, One of my Bug Out Buddies (we actually have a group of us who are thinking of ways to survive future hurricanes) is a Chemical Engineer who works at one of the large refineries in the Houston area.
He is working with me on setting up a small refining system. (probably with centrifuges, not a cracking tower(too dangerous))
I have closed on the 273 acres, and already have started preliminary plans for construction. I have found a natural hollow, depression to dam the stream that flows through the property, and will add hydro power to a sluice gate. Once the water builds up a lake behind the dam, I will add fish to the lake.
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May 11 2010, 3:54 PM EDT by
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chevellescool's survival plan, part one, L.A. California
my guess, just off the top of my head is the riots 18 years ago (right? the gang violence? with fires in the street? aka riots..)
anyway, zhunterd,
i can tell you're one of those toddlers trying to look older. but i won't judge. needless to say, what is your problem? (let this be a lesson to all) you don't tell somebody that "oh i do not believe you, so i'll just kill you". this is especially wrong since either way he's probably swinging a bigger stick.. police officer or not.
post zday, you wouldnt do that either. you'd stay cautious of whoever you met, and whatever the decision is that needs to be made, needs to be made for the sake of your group. you dont threaten, you stay wary of a newcomer. and only execute him if things go wrong between your group and him...
now, back to discussing chevelle's survival plan.
btw chevelle, avoid teenagers in the apocalypse... they'll just hurt themselves... or they know what they're doing. lol
(yes i just dissed on my social group, idc)
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Apr 24 2010, 12:32 PM EDT by
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ZHunterD's survival plan
I have just put into place the final part of my zed outbreak plan, and would welcome comments/criticisms about it. This plan is actually being
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Aug 2 2010, 12:31 PM EDT by
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Accessing Your plan when the internet/power goes down?
I also plan on printing mine in the future, but that seems a recipe for it getting wet, burned etc. I just make sure that I update all of my flash drives.
@zhunterd - why not print off your plan, make copies, and then have them laminated. That way you wont have to worry about the paper fading or getting wet. I have a laminated copy of all of my survival plans for many situations in a 3 ring binder, one copy in my den and one with my BOB.
I don't trust having power, or a laptop to keep information on. My lap top is one of the last things I will worry about grabbing when I bug out to a better location.
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Jan 13 2011, 2:18 PM EST by
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My real, being implemented, world wide Z out break plan
zhunterd,
I am eager to see your comprehensive plan here ...
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/User+Survival+Plans+-+X-Z
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May 11 2010, 2:21 PM EDT by
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After Armageddon was created for the Noobs, and Mall Ninjas
"....what?....
Noobs and mall ninjas? I love both of those terms being used on this website. Its as if you think theres an elite group of hardcore survival experts on this site that will be the ones still alive if there is a zombie apocalypse.
That just how it seems to me anyway" There is a difference (to me anyway) between Noobs, Newbies and MNs.
Newbies are fresh to the site. They might make some mistakes (WalMart Plans, Army base plans, etc) but they are eager and willing to learn.
Noobs are the same, but without the desire to learn from their mistakes. When presented with reasons why their plan fails, they ignore them, and insist they are right.
MN's believe themselves to be possessors of rectal fusion engines, and have been mentioned elsewhere.
There are survival experts on the site. Not one of them possesses all the skills, knowledge and equipment to guarantee survival. But together, they increase the chances of all members willing to listen and learn.
The only thing we don't have are zombie experts, since we don't have a specimen to prod and poke. But those who have done research into the common (and some rarer) archetypes can make highly educated guesses as to their attributes and behaviour.
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Zombie Fiction
different take. Bio-weapon engineered zombie infection, created to cleanse the world of the wrong types of people, one glitch though and many survived
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Jan 31 2012, 3:18 PM EST by
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RVE points
"i live in phoenix az, and know of 6 good gun shops off the top of my head within 7 miles, so ammo/guns is no issue. i also know of prob 20 stores within the same distance, there goes the food/drink problem. ant there is a gas station on almost every corner, there goes the fuel problem. there is a very secure school about 2 blocks from my house, there's my fort. All of my mates have talked about this situation with me, and have agreed with me and decided to meet me at the school... *poof* a team. theres a place i know of that sells big ass trucks (some armored) within 5 miles, theres our transportation. so let's discuss how i'll be doing in this situation, shall we.... VERY WELL!" All of the locations will be empty by the time you finish with one.(if you can get into that first one)
Take it from first hand experience, (having experienced two great panic situations with two hurricanes, see here: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/ZHunterD%27s+survival+plan) that most people are going to be thinking like you when shtf, and are going to beeline to the closest gun store, food store, and gas station.
See here for a good idea of what will happen.:
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic
It is better to prepare now, and collect everything you can now, before shtf.
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May 30 2010, 10:10 PM EDT by
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The Walking Dead?
Jamez820, excellent point re: "we also forget that they are just regular people living regular lives before this happened...". The axe scene is more symbolic than practical -- the role reversal between survivors and zombies, Rick retaining humanity in what would otherwise be an inhuman act by going through the Z's wallet (was anyone else reminded of "Fight Club" ...? "He had a name!"), etc
Carnack, I agree about the racist. Hell, he can call ME all the racial epithets he likes, so long as he's got my back -- I'm certainly free to think he's a jackhole in return -- but group survival is either a team sport, or go strike off on your own. It seems to be more about ego / control. Have we not all encountered guys who go "alpha-in-a-bad-way" in a crisis with an (apparent) leadership vacuum? He makes himself the center of attention by wasting ammo sniping random Z's, then tries to assert control over the group by force.
It doesn't seem like they have a plan / agreement for what to do with him before they set the escape into motion. I guess I'm not sufficiently hardcore to just eliminate him point blank -- during a fight, sure, but afterwards? I'm too liberal :-D
Maybe give him an axe (not a gun) and let him make a break for it on his own, as a diversion?
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Nov 9 2010, 4:43 PM EST by
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School Shooter used a .22 effectively
I don't think anyone doubts the lethality of .22LR - if you shoot someone in the head at arm's reach with it, you will probably kill whomever you are shooting because it doesn't take a professional marksman to make hits count at that range. It takes no training or practice.
Actually, I think that pocket .22 and .25 caliber handguns are almost perfect for self-defense when maximum concealment is an important factor. If you shoot someone in the head, face, or repeatedly in the chest, there's a good chance that the end result is fatal. Once I get my the rest of my handguns down here, I'm planning on giving my ugly little .25 Beretta to Maricely for CCW work.
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Feb 28 2012, 5:17 PM EST by
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Walking Dead Season 2 - Lessons Learned So Far [SPOILERS]
Having just watched the first two episodes back to back, I thought now would be a good time to see what mistakes the group make, and what could be done differently.
SPOILER WARNING.
Preface: yes I am criticising the group. No, I am not criticising the show. It would not be as interesting or as tense if they made all the right moves and everything worked out ok. That's a romantic comedy, not a horror serial.
But certain things they do can be avoided, done better, or done differently.
First, there is the encounter with the blockade. Mutliple car pile-up, abandoned vehicles everywhere, no way through. The RV is stuck. And yet they drive into the blockade, uncertain of a way out. That's a mistake. Drive up to it, save walking, sure. But into it? How can you get out in a hurry? Do you think they can reverse through the cars, weaving without hitting a single one at speed?
Second, their lookout doesn't spot the Swarm (the "herd" in TWD) until it is almost on top of them. Again, rookie mistake. You need to be checking all sides at all times. Zombies can come from anywhere that is traversible, and possibly ones that don't seem it (out of rivers and lakes, etc).
Third is compounded by the second. With more warning, they could have come up with a better plan than "hide under cars". The zombies seem to be travelling along the road because they have some semblance of memory and instinct. So the group should have gone and hidden in the woods. Yes, there are a few zombies in there, but nothing their crossbows and machetes couldn't handle.
Fourth, the car scavenging. It seems disorganised, unfocused and simply lacking co-ordination. The whole group should have stripped one car down, gone through organising things into Yes, No and Maybe piles. Repeat for every vehicle. Siphoning gas should be done by someone with the foresight to check for petrol and diesel.
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Oct 27 2011, 2:54 PM EDT by
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How others will percieve you by the choice of your weapons.
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In my eyes it boils down to what the operator is comfortable using. My M44 may not be the best gun, but I'm used to how it wants to work. I'm more comfortable with my katana and long bow, but those alone wouldn't get me very far.
" Ah see, now that is perfect, and I think TRat, Filadog and I can all agree that YOU have an advantage over a lot of people, Simply because you are going with what you know and are comfortable with....
That makes you way more dangerous than the guy with the latest fad weapon, that cannot hit the broad side of a barn while standing inside it... "But dont he look cool!"
In the long run I wont be disrespectful of anyone, with any weapon, in a survival situation....shows they at least planned somewhat ahead.
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Mar 8 2011, 10:38 AM EST by
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Warlords protection
Raiding is not a long term survival plan Post-SHTF as many of you will agree, but what if those raiders than just go in and pillage, instead protected the people of that settlement or protected multiple settlements in a given area in exchange for supplies? These "warlords" would probably be from rouge military, national guard, police officers, etc. in my opinion these guys rather than being reviled and hated like regular raiders they will in a way be loved or at least respected which would help them get new recruits from the villages that they control. This though would probably start increased conflict with warlords vying for power in a given area sadly. But this would probably if the warlord had enough areas under control and that area was nice and safe this would be the foundation for the first (i say this word quite lightly) "Civilizations". so what do all of you think is it a good idea and how could it work.
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Feb 12 2012, 8:41 PM EST by
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*I Have No Title For This*
You and your group are on a routine scavving run using a path you regularly travel when you round a corner and see dozens of Zs littering the ground with wounds indicating a handgun.
In the middle of the group in a large pool of dried blood you see a man lying on his back. No signs of him aknowleging your presence. Cursory inspection shows that his neck had been torn out and that he'd bled to death.
You continue your scavving run but on your return you see that he's no longer there.
Instead he's some 20 feet away walking quickly to the local mall carrying a handgun.
Upon noticing you he darts around a corner yelling very clearly for you to back off.
Viral traits: Infection is spread the normal way and tends to turn a person who survived the initial infection over a period of 2 days.
If a person was killed at the moment of or close to the moment of infection the turn time extends to several days up to a week.
Zombies are shambler types and those who live through infection move like them as the turn time nears.
So you now have a "dead" guy who moves very much like a human.
His throat has been removed but he was still able to speak clearly.
Response?
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Nov 11 2010, 3:38 PM EST by
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