Rabbit hide prosessing and crafting
Not a day an the trail goes by without seeing a white tailed rabbit, so i got thinking about grandma's old recipes. But as i stood there drooling in the middle of a corn-field i realized food isn't all you need in the post apocalyptic waste-land. Cloth can become very rare once moisture and vandalism begin to take there toll on salvagable clothing.
So i'll cut to the chase, i'm looking for guide-lines and info on both of the former, cooking wild meat and taning hides. Aneything on hunting is also much appreciated.
This seemed the best place to ask.
Hunting with a Hawk
Aww you thought this was another tomahawk thread...
One of my clients this week keeps hawks for hunting small game. I found this terribly interesting.
Unlike other "livestock" one is not concerned with veterinary issues because if the bird catches something, then it is already too late. What really caught my attention was how easy it is to replace a lost bird. The trap for catching a wild hawk is ridiculously easy to make. The bait, a live mouse, could be harder to get than making and using the trap. My client showed me his trap and we discussed how to replicate it from natural materials.
The learning curve seems to be low with predatory birds. It seems they are rather disposed to becoming dependent on humans. Most of the learning seems involved with handling and feeding.
My client described how he hunts small game such as guinea hen, squirrel, and pheasant using his hawk and his dachshunds. The hawks will follow his dogs from tree to tree until the dogs flush some prey. Then the hawk moves in for the kill.
He is going to take me hawking in the spring. I'll check in afterward and tell of my experience.
Nov 9 2012, 7:54 PM EST by
I, Caveman....an insight to the unprepaired
I watched a show last night called I, Caveman. Morgan spurlock, the guy that ate mcdonalds for 30 days did this documentary. He took 9 people with pretty much no expertise into the woods and gave them only primitive tools. They had to wear animal skin and hunt and gather food.
By the third day, most of the group was so hungry, they started shutting down mentally. It took them 6 days to finally kill something substantial to feed the group and that is because the producers called in a guy to give them atlatl spear throwers. If they had not have gotten those, they would have starved to death. Most were severely dehydrated for the majority of the show as well.
They were only there for 10 days and 2 people quit the show. I was watching this and really re-evaluating my beliefs on just how many survivors there would be in any kind of apoc where it forced people to hunt and gather food and get clean drinking water. After watching that show, i doubt if more than 1% would survive the first few months.
Has anyone else seen this show?
Victoria, there is a Forrest/ nature reserve 10 min walk from my house. have seen wallabies there, lots of other animals too.
Jun 2 2012, 7:58 PM EDT by
Scout Rifles - "Swiss Army Knife" of Guns or Poor Compromise?
Savage 10FCM Scout, Ruger Gunsite Scout, Steyr Scout, and the many homebrew or custom-made scouts... thoughts?
Is Jeff Cooper's "Scout Rifle" concept and those weapons that follow it the go-to firearm for the zombie apocalypse, or is it little more than a poorly executed compromise of features that are in-fact limiting? Is the .308 caliber the most acceptable cartridge option (as Col. Cooper propounds) or is this of less importance than form? Should modern scout rifles strictly adhere to the original scout rifle concept, given late changes and advances in technology and metallurgy? Is a detachable magazine a requirement or are stripper clips adequate? If you were to build or purchase a scout rifle, would you follow the original Cooper specs or would you deviate from them?
I'll share my opinion later, after a consensus on the scout rifle has been formed and a few other opinions are out there. I'm curious what y'all think!
May 3 2012, 2:30 PM EDT by
I live in the Illawarra South of Sydney. There are plenty of feral goat and deer in the bushy mountains which are only about a 20 minute walk from my house. I see them nearly everytime I go to the outskirts of my suburb so I am fairly confident I could locate them easily.
Mar 20 2012, 4:33 AM EDT by
Hunting in Australia
HUNTING/TRAPPING AUSTRALIA General Links: http://www.aushunt.com.au/new/ http://www.australianhunting.net/ FERALS Deer Introduction- One of the hardest Games species in Australia to hunt, they require a large amount of skill
Nov 23 2011, 5:21 AM EST by
Back in the mists of antiquity, there were these things called books and they were good. And in these books were esoteric things called references. With these a person could learn more detailed information on many topics. Ah, heck, what I'm saying is that there is gold in them-thar libraries. Case in point:
Some people are old enough to remember when survivalists worried about nuclear war(anyone who grew up during the Cuban Missle Crisis!) and the books from then were geared toward that issue.
Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearney was very sought after for it's solid research. Among it's references is a paper on feeding folks after a nuclear war. At the time, I had to order a copy from the Feds and some bugger walked off with it a year or two later. Well, today I got to thinking about that paper and pulled up a copy of NWSS online to see if it was still around.
And it was. Free, downloadable, printable. It's about using available resources to feed a devastated country using expedient means. There's info on fireless cooking, filtering water, sprouting, and various nutritious ways of keeping a countrywide population fed. Is this useless because it came out in 1979? I wonder what other goodies are lurking in those older books, what do you think?
Sep 11 2011, 12:25 PM EDT by
My first possible "build"
Yes, to those who guessed, I am talking about a gun, a Norinco M305 to be precise, and no, you will not convince me to change that choice.
Now, I'm not so much building it from the ground up as much as I am customizing it to suit me.
I have decided that I will most likely be looking into putting rails on the bottom, and sides, to support a light and foregrip. I will likely keep just the stock sights, however, I am open to suggestions.
This rifle is being built as it is for 3 reasons,
1- Most importantly to me, hunting.
2- Almost as important as hunting, home defence.
3- Fun, and keep in mind, I don't mind paying for the extra cost of the .308 round.
The primary purpose on creating this thread was to see folks oppinions on my decision, and if they have any suggestions.
Edit- Almost forgot, here is a link to the rifle.
Illegal methods of hunting.
Whats the best way to win a fight? Fight dirty.
So why would we look at hunting for game any differently? When SHTF and the local game warden is taking care of business elsewhere there will be no rules. NONE.
I don't know about anyone else but thats when poaching techniques and common sense reasoning will take over for me.
Any and all wildlife regulations will be thrown out the door.
Think of all the possibilities. Its illegal to trap small game like quails, rabbits, squirrels. Not when SHTF. Its illegal to take game like deer and turkey at night. Not when SHTF. Its illegal to bait many different kinds of game animals now. Not when SHTF.
The Native Americans didn't have game limits or regulations prohibiting them from anything. I'd also take a page or two from their methods of hunting, trapping and fishing.
What are some hunting regulations you'd stomp all over to survive?
Thanks for lighting a fire under me humanroach. Expect more threads like this in the future.
Jun 21 2011, 4:46 PM EDT by
Model : Thompson/Center Contender The Contender is an oddity among pistols, almost seeming like a miniature rifle; this description is not far off. The Thompson/Center Contender is a single-shot pistol chambered for a massive variety of cartr
Apr 27 2011, 9:38 PM EDT by
Browning BAR semi-auto
Model : Browning BAR Mk II The name of this weapon has caused some confusion when discussing it. While the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle, or BAR, was a squad automatic weapon used in World War II, this Browning BAR is a semi-automatic huntin
Mar 17 2011, 1:29 AM EDT by
i read over what little there was on hunting. its OK but it needs to be more. A page dedicated to the different widely used Traps needs to be added as well as how to construct them. trapping is 10 percent skill and 100 percent luck so knowing how to make a good trap is a great benefit. Second, some people (my self included) know how to hunt for small game and birds, but have no idea how to prepare them for eating/cooking. any amount of info on this subject would be extremely beneficial.
Nov 5 2010, 3:42 AM EDT by
Varmint shooting pistols. Well...
So I've been looking for something with a bit more punch that a 22LR for varmint shooting, that's reloadable.
Savage Strikers and XP-100's are out of the question, so that leaves T/C's and the Spikes Tactical pistol lower with a 10.5" upper.
Either way it's going to be about $600 for the T/C or about 800 for the Spikes pistol. Now here's the big part of the question. Which would be better for reduced loads? You could just use the charge handle on the AR pistol and chamber another round, but the T/C you would have to break open.
Looking for "toys" to buy, that actually have some justifiable uses. Nothing I can't hunt with.
Not known to be an AR fan, but it almost makes sense to go that route for a single shot repeater.
Oct 22 2010, 11:37 AM EDT by
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Oct 22 2010, 4:28 AM EDT by
Plan for combo Bug Out Vehicle (come Z-day) and hunting rig (pre Z-day
I have looked over the site and really like the B.O.B's listed here, what i havent yet seen is one that is vehicle mounted.
In my case, i have recently come into possession of a Nissan Patrol 4x4 wagon, and aside from it being unregisteredm it is in good condition. What im thinking is that i will be using it not only as a camping/hunting vehicle, but also as a mobile BOB. It has a roof rack, roo bar, snorkel, CB radio and plenty of room in the back.
Below is a list of everything i would keep in the car at all times (except the guns, but i can get them within 30 seconds, i have tested it today). The guns may not be as great as what you have available in the states but we have very restricive gun laws here.
Please let me know what you think.
Winchester 94 30-30 Lever action rifle (4x40 scope)
Winchester 9422M XTR Lever Action Rifle (4x40 scope)
9mm STI Pistol
Various (ammo + clips)
Food & Water:
6x 3day food and water packs (these contain 9x 400 calorie bars, 6x 125ml fresh water and a thermo blanket each)
Coffee and Suger satchets
5x Crank LED Torches
300x Tealight Candles
Maps, paper + pen etc
Crank Powered radio
Solar powered Usb recharger
Long range walkie talkies
solar charger for walkie talkies
Needle and thread
5x Survival Hacksaw
3x Cargo Pants for family
3x cargo shorts for family
3x polo shirts for family
3x long sleeve shirts for family
various clothes for children
Socks, various sizes
Hiking boots for family
2 Pot camping set
lots of salt
Plates, cups and bowls
Jun 29 2010, 1:46 AM EDT by Thereth
Growing food/storing food.
Theres an error on this page, where it says use canned foods within a year.
many canned foods have use-by dates of many years, and a lot of canned foodstuffs can be used several dozens of years later. of course dry foods are also very good..
rergarding livestock, it is much more efficient to eat the vegetables that you would use to raise livestock. i love meat as much as anyone but unless you had plenty of crops to spare, using it to feed animals isn't a good idea.
a field would be ideal, but you could also grow in an urban setting.
if i had a lot of people, id get a large building such as a school/office block for example, with a large roof and make it secure.. also more room indoors. a school will have a fenced-off perimiter already, but barricaded windows +further/extended perimeters would be preferable.
I'd use the roof to grow as many different crops as i could, if neccessary and if i had means to generate power, hook up the apropriate lighting to feed the plants if they were struggling. also some kind of pump to water would be needed, or a lot of labour.
most fruit + veg seeds can be found in garden centres, as can soil. failing that just dig up as much soft soily earth as you can find. you could use a whole range of stuff to as fertillizer
also a roof could be a permenant post for a lookout, an early warning for a perimeter breach.
Apr 24 2010, 4:39 PM EDT by
I'm sure its been asked before and will be asked again. Can you eat a zombie? Assuming you bag yourself a recently deceased, not a rotten zombie, can you boil the zombie meat enough, or smoke it to be zombie jerky? Understanding this would be a dangerous process, and even the slightest bit of uncooked zombie meat could make your want to eat your buddies. But I would assume you'd ingest just as much zombie blood-mist if you were beating one with a bat.... maybe I should invest in painter's masks
Mar 3 2010, 1:57 AM EST by
The Forked Fishing Spear
Feb 21 2010, 1:49 AM EST by
The bird trap
Feb 21 2010, 1:44 AM EST by