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 Sgt.Schultz |
Other weapon, better
Nov 23 2007, 7:43 PM EST Am I the only person who knows about the flail?! Itis perfect for fighting zombies. 5 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
 dizzdeathwing |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 23 2007, 8:55 PM EST to heavy and large. and most made today arent as battle ready, and most are for desplay. A good machete, or crowbar would work much better in a pinch. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sgt.Schultz |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 24 2007, 6:53 AM EST In a pinch, maybe, but think about it. It's like an iron baseball bat. Combined with a dozen tiny crowbars. Crowbar- Heavy, Needs to be uncomfortably close, Low Maintenance, Medium to high damage.-Destroys the brain. Flail- Heavy, Medium-close, Very low maintenance, HIGH damage.-Destruction of the brain. Macete- Lighter than the other two, Very close, Needs Sharpenig, Used right, HIGH damage.-Decapitation. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dizzdeathwing |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 24 2007, 9:17 AM EST I'd just be afraid of it being combat able or not, finding real ones is hard to come by. if you can find a real one, go FOR IT, would be a good weapon Do you find this valuable? |
 wulfgar87 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 24 2007, 10:45 AM EST I believe you're thinking about a mace, a flanged mace to be more specific, which is a little bit different than a flail. A flail is a handle connected to a chain which is then connected to a heavy metal head or sometimes multiple heads. I wouldn't use a flail just because of its difficulty to use and the high risk of losing control of it and hurting myself. It also seems like overkill since it was designed to break bones through plate armor not decomposing zombie heads. A mace on the other hand, while designed for the same purpose, is still much easier to use and I would definitely consider using it. Maces with a couple pics of the flanged kind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_%28club%29 Flail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail_%28weapon%29 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 26 2007, 8:34 AM EST If you really want to use a mace, get a good bat and put some heavy long nails threw the head of it, granted its not a true mace but its more battle effective then then maces sold today in gift shops, and the nail will increase the effectivness of the bat. or you could just use the bat, wichever floats your boat. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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wulfgar87 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 26 2007, 11:49 AM EST Good idea with the bat but i think the nails would have some drawbacks. Hit something hard enough and you'll push the nail back out the otherside or they'll weaken the bat and it'll be more prone to breaking. The real baddy would be getting the nail stuck in the skull and losing your melee weapon. Id go with a cold steel war hammer (everything cold steel makes is designed for practical use). You can just crush the skull outright or use the spike and if it gets stuck you can just lever it out like a crowbar and it won't bend like a nail. Or if some other kind of weapon floats your boat they make bats, indian war clubs, gun stock clubs, escrima sticks, tomahawks, heavy canes, and battle axes, and tons of other self defense implements. They also make standard knives, swords, katanas, and machetes on top of all that. I've been using their Kukri machetes for years and have yet to have one break after abusing it ....i just give them away to friends so i can have an excuse to get one with a new finish :) . I can vouche for their metal work but haven't owned any of their synthetic stuff, if its made under the same standards as their metal its probably good. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
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Nov 26 2007, 2:05 PM EST Yeah I've praised the products of Cold Steel on several of my other posts I've just never seen one in action (torture test) so I don't know what they can stand up to. i like the gun stock club, the escrima sticks, the machettes, and the tomahawks. Do you find this valuable? |
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wulfgar87 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 26 2007, 4:32 PM EST I've taken 3 of their kukri machetes to hell and back and i couldn't break them, the finish just wears off. When i got my second i actively tried to break the first on rocks, left it in a creek for a few days, using it like an axe to chop wood, chopped through deer bones, and so on.... I couldn't do it, just clean the rust and junk off, give it a quick sharpen and its good to go. Id like to get one of their bats but they're a little pricey to get one just to try and break it. Their sjambok's are pretty cheap i might get one of those for the purpose of breaking it. I think all their synthetics are made out of the same stuff and i want to see how they hold up to prolonged sun exposure. That or a tomahawk to see how their wood holds up(not gonna risk breaking my hammer...yet). :) Do you find this valuable? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 27 2007, 7:44 AM EST Thats really cool that the machettes stood up to so much abuse, thanks for torturing testing it and sharing the results, i'll have to give them another look, I like the bolo machette personally so it may have to get added to my arsenal. Do you find this valuable? |
 Dvergamali |
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Nov 28 2007, 2:07 AM EST flail, not so much. a flail is very difficult to use at close range. 3 feet is no problem but if your back is to the wall and a Z is in your face your screwed. Bats with nails in them would not work either. Figure you would swing and get it stuck in the head. now you have a zombie on a stick with many more still comming. In my opinion a crowbar, bat, shovel, club or a large hammer would work great. I am going to make a hammer like this. take a small sledgehammer and put a 4 foot handle on it. still light to swing a hundred times but heavy enough to cause TSF (Total Skull Failure) I will post pics when done. meanwhile take a look at the zombaton I made. Link on my profile to see it. let me know on the page what you think. I would love some feedback 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 vanrulzz |
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Nov 28 2007, 1:32 PM EST hmmm, the small sledgehammer idea works, but putting a 4 foot handle expresses the same problem you said earlier in the post: at super close range you are screwed. Maybe you could also have a bowie knife sheathed so you can manage at that range AND have a super kewl weapon. Do you find this valuable? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 28 2007, 2:54 PM EST Hey have any of you guys played with the extenible batons. im mostly interested in how much abuse they can take, because those things can break skulls, but I was wondering if they break down at all. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dvergamali |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 28 2007, 4:18 PM EST they can take some abuse but I dunno about extended skull cracking. Im thinking GREAT backup weapon though. To bad they are a felony in Cali Do you find this valuable? |
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Dvergamali |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 28 2007, 4:29 PM EST there used to be a hammer that had a special shape perfect for cracking a skull in cattle. This is before the captive bolt stun guns or the Mushroom bolt stun gun that use a piston to cause lethal brain puncture. Im thinking this hammer would be perfext for extended zombie bashing. If it can split a cow skull a human skull should be easy as pie. The Mushroom bolt stun gun may be usefull at home but not in the field as I think it has to be hooked up to a compressor. Do you find this valuable? |
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wulfgar87 |
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Nov 28 2007, 5:02 PM EST I think telescoping batons are more for quick whacks and applying force to pressure points and joints to subdue a subject through pain rather than actually breaking bones. But thats just based on my observations of the design of the weapon, not any kind of real experience...just MHO Do you find this valuable? |
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Dvergamali |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 28 2007, 9:39 PM EST exactly. I think you could open a skull with it but after a half dozen it would be pretty bent up. now if you wanna take out a knee with it perfect! though why bother with a Z's Knees Do you find this valuable? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 29 2007, 7:55 AM EST Well any baton can crack a skull, I just wondered how much abuse they could take, and as for the hammer I've seen something like it at my job, we call it the zombie killer, its like a normal hammer but in the back the area used to pull nails, their is this long spike that comes to a nice sharp tip, I don't know if sombeday welded it on there or it came like that but its wiked. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dvergamali |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 30 2007, 12:26 PM EST would love to see a pic of the hammer Do you find this valuable? |
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Torin316 Torin316 |
RE: Other weapon, better
Nov 30 2007, 1:36 PM EST Sorry can't do I went looking for it an its gone, I think one of my buddy's stole it to add on to his zombie arsenal, or my manger's thought we'd hurt ourselves with it. Do you find this valuable? |
