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Tuck-Duck&Roll |
Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
Mar 16 2008, 6:21 PM EDT Myself, I'd stay put in my house for a couple of months after the initial outbreak. Hopefully, things would settle down a bit, making it safer for me to move around. My biggest concern would be moving around the streets right after the outbreak, not because of the zombies. I'd be more concerned of frightened trigger happy idiots shooting everything that moved, without looking for evidence of zombie infestation. I'd give it a couple 2-3 months (I have supplies for 6 months) for the eventual herd thinning, before looking for greener pastures. My prefered place to go around here is the local county jail. It's a large 3 story brick building, all the ground floor windows have steel bars on them and steel doors. The back yard of the jail has almost 2 acres of tillable ground, thats protected by double rows of 10 foot high chain link with barbed wire. Right next door is the fire department, that has generators, fuel and EMT equipment. Down the block are 2 supermarkets and a small food terminal. As an added bonus the jail backs up to a small river that has fish and would be easy to convert for drinking. Unfortunatly, I'm sure other people have thought of this too. So, if this doesn't work out I'll have to hump almost 300 miles to a friends lodge, that we have set up for meeting place in case of another Katrina event. That in itself could be an adventure of epic proportions. If the roads are blocked with abandonded vehicles, how would one travel that kind of distance? I'm thinking a mountain bike as their quiet and dont need gasoline and their easy to drag onto and over obstacles. But thats another discussion for another time.... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 16 2008, 8:55 PM EDT theres a problem and everyone military or law enforcement knows this the flight/fight is based on a persons adernoine exspulsion the higher the rate the more like-ly the fight will take place but the other critical componate is that is someone who has never has a flight/fight impulse will be more likely to run. make sure you know your warriors Do you find this valuable? |
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Legion12 |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 16 2008, 9:31 PM EDT If everyone has a job to do it will help keep order. It is when everyone just sits around that someone comes up with the bright idea of, like, "Lets go outside and see what is going on". Have them invetory their BOBs, monitor tv and radio writing down what they hear, fill anything that can hold water. Have them do anything. Do you find this valuable? |
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Talon12 |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 16 2008, 10:10 PM EDT "My prefered place to go around here is the local county jail. It's a large 3 story brick building, all the ground floor windows have steel bars on them and steel doors. The back yard of the jail has almost 2 acres of tillable ground, thats protected by double rows of 10 foot high chain link with barbed wire. Right next door is the fire department, that has generators, fuel and EMT equipment. Down the block are 2 supermarkets and a small food terminal. As an added bonus the jail backs up to a small river that has fish and would be easy to convert for drinking.This sounds almost too good to be true. Get a few rabbits for meat and a goat for milk and you have it made. We are prepard to stick it out at home for awhile as well, for the same reasons. Do you find this valuable? |
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Ethien Ethien |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 2:49 PM EDT I'd just make one of those floating raft city things like in the bruce willis movie "waterworld" (i think) just be in the ocean and float around until you run out of supplies then just get your boat thats hooked on to the floating city and sail to the nearest supermarket (unfortunately) and restock then get back on your raft thing and just chill but then you have to make it around the west coast for the lesser chance of hurricanes Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 3:44 PM EDT I think the best thing to do is stay at home, even for a few days at first. My plan relies on the right now... in a year, I hope to have a house, but I don't plan that the apocalypse will wait so I make due with what I have. I will have my dedicated vehicle (soon, I have to save another 300 bucks for my M35A2) parked in the carport along the side of my apartment, already loaded with supplies and fuel. The RV sized space is protected by a brick wall topped with chain link on the right and back sides, the apartment building on the other, and dog-ear cedar gates in front. I live on the third (top) floor of my apartment building, there are 4 identical units per floor, with 2 staircases per side: all units are basically separated by an open air hallway. Our entry door is steel with a steel jamb, 2 deadbolts, and if the time comes, I have steel pipe that I can rig up to bar the door. I have supplies for several months, a small generator and fuel to power the fridge and some lights. My balcony looks over one of the staircases and also the only way into the complex (without driving through or climbing either a 5 foot fence, brick wall, or building). I would probably permanently barricade or destroy the second staircase, and install a gate over the one closest to my unit. The top apartments have the luxury of a woodburning stove, so there's a way to keep warm. I also have a roof access in my closet, and my base station CB and scanner are rigged up in the living room. Just in case I did need something, there is a Walgreens drug store, a gas station, and a Target across the street, as well as several supermarkets and a Home Depot 3 blocks away. I would stay put until things calmed down, and then after determining where to go, I would get the truck and load up any remaining supplies and fuel, and head out. Do you find this valuable? |
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iamMetaluna iamMetaluna |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 4:15 PM EDT To each their own. My "own" is going to the woods. I'm very familiar with the woods here b/c of how much I've camped and hiked. I think that with the terrain in the mountains here it would be difficult to get surrounded, and an escape route is always the way the zombies aren't coming (if you get surrounded, hit the weak part of their line and get out). I would stay mobile - no longer than a few weeks at a certain place (with a system of scouts/walkie talkies of course), and cycle through the areas I know quietly. I'd plant vegetables amongst the forest vegetation to conceal it (sticking to sturdy plants that can pretty much handle their own - a great example is Collard Greens). As I came through I could harvest and replant. I can also live off the land itself - it's not McDonalds, but the woods and mountains can sustain someone with hunting, fishing, and natural vegetation that's edible. It's not for everyone, people should stick to what they know - but I'd get out of cities and other highly populated ares. Do you find this valuable? |
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StrykerPez |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 4:50 PM EDT My eventual plan is close to yours, Metaluna. But I know I'll never make it out of the city alive unless I stay put until the crazies and panic subsides. Zombies are enough on their own, I don't need to deal with gangs looting stores because they can, panicked people shooting me on accident, car accidents, etc, so thats why I'd stay put. I wish I lived closer to the wilderness. Do you find this valuable? |
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BigBDave |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 6:23 PM EDT Tuck-Duck&Roll: I take it you have never been in a jail. I use to work in a jail, and thats the last place I would go. The guards wont stick around so you will have hundreds of inmates in cells with no way out. Majority of the doors have electric locks. They have keys but most of the officers have only have keys for the section they are working, but some areas they must get them from a command center. I don't think you can get into the jail section as a civilian without going threw the officer entrance. Every time I went to work I had to get buzzed in by an officer. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Tuck-Duck&Roll |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 8:26 PM EDT "Tuck-Duck&Roll: I take it you have never been in a jail. I use to work in a jail, and thats the last place I would go. The guards wont stick around so you will have hundreds of inmates in cells with no way out. Majority of the doors have electric locks. They have keys but most of the officers have only have keys for the section they are working, but some areas they must get them from a command center. I don't think you can get into the jail section as a civilian without going threw the officer entrance. Every time I went to work I had to get buzzed in by an officer. "I've been to this one, it's not as modern as you might think, it was built in 1958. This building is now used for county storage and holding prisoners going to trial in the courthouse across the square. The modern jail they mostly use is a 1/2 mile from here and there they do have a lot of people. I have two friends that work here in the old jail, so getting in isn't an issue. You are correct about the cell sections being hard to get at, but they only keep a few trial prisoners here, maybe 20 at most. Come to think of it, I'm not sure what we'd do with them. I hadn't really thought of that, damn now thats something to think about. But this may be all moot, the local paper said that the county may tear the old jail down and erect a new police station in it's place. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dvaderp94 |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
May 17 2008, 9:17 PM EDT Can i stay with you when the zombies come Tuck-Duck&Roll? lol (not really) Do you find this valuable? |
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tacticalplanner tacticalplanner |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
Jul 26 2008, 4:46 PM EDT I will have to flight because i have no supplies at my place ( only a BOB). my friends house has like, 4 guns so i would go there. But for the most part, i would do both because I know my town well enough to be able to pick where i attack, then fall back through areas zees couldn't go. I'll probably go gurrilla. Do you find this valuable? |
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~Jack~ |
RE: Fight or Flight? When to stay or when to go? How,Where?
Jul 26 2008, 7:41 PM EDT Alright. If you are unarmed, flee. do not bother sticking around. run. If you are armed, fighting is an option, but if you do not believe that the situation is in your favor, flee anyways. If you are trapped, fight. If you have no food, or have a very short supply of food, leave. Find food. If you have a supply of food that can last you more then 6 months, stay. If where you live is extremely dangerous like a heavy populated city, leave the city. it is too dangerous for you to live in a zombie-breeding ground. If you decide to leave regardless of your situation, go to some place where you know there will be food available. Once you find food, take what you can and find a safe place to bunk for a while. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
