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BobMcBobbertson
BobMcBobbertson
Semi-Automatics
Mar 19 2008, 11:18 AM EDT
I don't understand what the point would be buying a ridiculously expensive and difficult to obtain automatic rifle, when you can just as easily by a $400 Ar15 and bump-fire it. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
KR555
KR555
RE: Semi-Automatics
Mar 19 2008, 12:56 PM EDT
"I don't understand what the point would be buying a ridiculously expensive and difficult to obtain automatic rifle, when you can just as easily by a $400 Ar15 and bump-fire it."
True, most military Style Firearm could be found in semi-auto version.
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klesh
klesh
RE: Semi-Automatics
Mar 19 2008, 4:58 PM EDT
"I don't understand what the point would be buying a ridiculously expensive and difficult to obtain automatic rifle, when you can just as easily by a $400 Ar15 and bump-fire it."
bump fireing is extremely inaccurate and tough to do. some people can with alot of practice. i dont even see the need for a full auto function on any "rifle". A sub-gun is good for full auto becouse its meant to be used in close.
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: Semi-Automatics
Aug 31 2008, 1:37 AM EDT
Well, first of all, that should not BE an issue, since the United States (which, when if comes to firearms, is the most permissive in the First World) does not allow civilians to own automatics; Semi-autos are fine, and another subject.
Some states, however, do not allow the AR-15 because of the configuration of the gun; It’s puel a style over substance debate, of course, but the morons that scream loudest managed to lie, cheat, and bribe their way into convincing (or threatening) the various state legislators into banning “specific” designs (the AR-15 being top of their hit list). I actually watched a “news” report of this tiny little girl, buck fifty soaking wet at a t-shit contest with jackets “fire” an AK-47 on fully automatic (can’t fake that part) FROM THE HIP and it SEEMED stable; Until you looked at the video a second, very careful, time, and you realized she’d run a pair of CABLES from the barrel to the ground in an attempt to defraud the public (it held the barrel down, all she had to do was hold the but down with her body weight and it “looked” like she’d really made her point).
Ironically, enough, the AK-Series is effectively OFF the ban list, since they came up with configs that keep them essentially (functionally) unchanged, and still meet the ban criteria.
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HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
RE: Semi-Automatics
Aug 31 2008, 2:08 AM EDT
"Well, first of all, that should not BE an issue, since the United States (which, when if comes to firearms, is the most permissive in the First World) does not allow civilians to own automatics; Semi-autos are fine, and another subject.
Some states, however, do not allow the AR-15 because of the configuration of the gun; It’s puel a style over substance debate, of course, but the morons that scream loudest managed to lie, cheat, and bribe their way into convincing (or threatening) the various state legislators into banning “specific” designs (the AR-15 being top of their hit list). I actually watched a “news” report of this tiny little girl, buck fifty soaking wet at a t-shit contest with jackets “fire” an AK-47 on fully automatic (can’t fake that part) FROM THE HIP and it SEEMED stable; Until you looked at the video a second, very careful, time, and you realized she’d run a pair of CABLES from the barrel to the ground in an attempt to defraud the public (it held the barrel down, all she had to do was hold the but down with her body weight and it “looked” like she’d really made her point).
Ironically, enough, the AK-Series is effectively OFF the ban list, since they came up with configs that keep them essentially (functionally) unchanged, and still meet the ban criteria."
Yes andy, we know 90%, no, 95% of politicians will milk anything for votes and/or money.

And the way the media portrays crimes and guns... Many people of my generation, especially in my area, think firearms are bad things that have no use in this era and some are even worse...
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byates
byates
RE: Semi-Automatics
Aug 31 2008, 2:19 AM EDT
"Well, first of all, that should not BE an issue, since the United States (which, when if comes to firearms, is the most permissive in the First World) does not allow civilians to own automatics; Semi-autos are fine, and another subject.
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List showing which states allow ownership of full auto weapons
http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/FAQ/title_2_regulations.htm
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: Semi-Automatics
Aug 31 2008, 11:55 AM EDT
"HeavenlySword: Yes andy, we know 90%, no, 95% of politicians will milk anything for votes and/or money."
HeavenlySword: Guess I had that coming to me...

byates: Interesting, I was under the impression it was FEDERAL, not state, law that banned possesion of automatics.
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SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
Fed vs State laws
Sep 1 2008, 12:16 AM EDT
"HeavenlySword: Guess I had that coming to me...

byates: Interesting, I was under the impression it was FEDERAL, not state, law that banned possesion of automatics."
AJR,

Federal Law based off of '34 Miller Decision at Supreme Court gave us the National Firearms Act, and the $200 Transfer Tax, and the resulting Federal Regulation of MG/DD/SBR/SBS/AOW firearms.

Various States have differing Laws, some flat out banning MG's, others allowing the full gamut of arms.

http://www.subguns.com/laws/laws.htm

HTH

*EOM*
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HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
RE: Fed vs State laws
Sep 1 2008, 12:41 AM EDT
Building an operable automatic weapon is fairly simple, although most crude designs will jam often, Post-z day you will have much more luck building an automatic than finding one somewhere, especially around here Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: Fed vs State laws
Sep 1 2008, 1:47 PM EDT
And there won't be anyone who cares... Do you find this valuable?    

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