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Preforma |
Issue with meele weapons
Mar 26 2008, 1:29 AM EDT Well, while meele and cutting wepons seem to be usefull i belive are a risky endevour. Why you ask? well if you Zombies are indeed infected then all Cutting wepons (i.e. swords knives etc.) cause bleeding, this is especially dangorus when one hits an artery where blood is sprayed, id a Zombie has to be killed by one of these wepons (as one can predict may be required as the incident grows over time,) a face mask much like a riot mask, would be use full to keep blood off of the face and away from the eyes. My advice? avoid contact, kill from a far, and a soon as anyone of your team gets blood on there face, hands or feet and lower torso groin region, kill this person ASAP better that then risk infection. 10 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Whiskey_williams |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Mar 26 2008, 2:16 AM EDT Good point, but depending on what type of zombie you're dealing with, you may be able to get away with melee kills. If it's a slow moving, completely dead real zombie, NOT an infected person with the appearance of a zombie, then their blood won't really be pumping. A sharp blow to the head may cause some blood to splatter from momentum, but probably not with a steady force that will shoot a fountain of blood into your face. Also, I would personally reserve melee kills for dealing with small numbers, as in 3 maximum. Maybe more if they are slow and spaced out. Then I would really shoot for making my kills happen with the zombie ON THE GROUND. Assuming I had a bat or something, I would probably do some sort of kick or sweep knocking the zombie down. Then I would quickly proceed to smash its head in. That way, the zombies' head is easily exposed, far away from my face,and upon contact and destruction, won't have to fall, meaning blood probably won't splatter as much. Hell, if you have a pitchfork or something, you could knock him down an take him out with a quick clean impalement. I definitely agree about wearing face protection though. If you have the upper hand and are able to obtain weapons and protective gear, might as well go all out and grab a face mask while you're at it, right? 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CyprusBill |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 10 2008, 2:13 AM EDT Another issues with melee weapons, specifically bladed weapons, is if the blade has some of their goo still on it, and you knick yourself, you'd be as good as bitten in my book. Harder to knick yourself with, say, a bat, but you'd still want to be careful. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Kelen_Moonhunter |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 23 2008, 7:38 PM EDT There is the chance of nicking yourself with bladed weapons I do agree but, they are much more effective for the swift and quiet kill in experienced hands. Which brings me to my first point on this subject. Don't jump into melee without first practicing for at least and hour and I do mean at LEAST!! There is nothing deadlier out there, not even a zombie, than someone who can't effectively use their weapon. My second point is I believe melee weapons hold a major advantage over all other weapon categories, they don't make a whole lot of noise. Of course this does depend on the weapon and how you use it but, still compare someone hacking into a skull over the course of thirty seconds to silently kill a target with a baseball bat and the fire of a pistol or hunting rifle which can ring out for miles. And as someone has already stated, a zombie is a REANIMATED body, correct? That means it's dead, not alive, no blood flow. The blood not only won't flow but, it will have coagulated which makes splatter almost non-existant. Of course this does also deal with the kind of zombie you're dealing with (a.k.a. not the case for 28 Days later Rage victims, course I wouldn't consider them zombies contrary to many on this site apparently). 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Dontknowtilitstolate |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 28 2008, 11:53 PM EDT well in some zombie senarios blood of the zombie on you doesnt infect 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Kelen_Moonhunter |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 29 2008, 1:46 PM EDT That's true too but, do you really want to take the chance? After all that is in SOME zombie scenarios. It's hard saying what scenario could hit us. For all we know the zombies that may come around could be super human machines with the mind only to feed but, have amazing strength, speed, and other enhanced physical attributes such as sight, smell, hearing, and whatever other senses that may come about with it. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Dontknowtilitstolate |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 29 2008, 3:14 PM EDT yea exactally we cant really be sure what type of zombies we would run into. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13th.Casualty |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Apr 29 2008, 6:01 PM EDT Kill them ASAP? That's kinda harsh. I'd put them in one of my screening rooms for 48 hours and see if anything's wrong. If he turns, or shows signs of turning, then kill the guy. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 2 2008, 11:44 PM EDT This seemed to be best thread to add some notes on for the melee page since i'm not allowed to edit the page. spears many improvised spears can be made from a broomhandle and a blade. Many survival knives have hollow handles that can have a handle wedged into the base, or you could lash a knife to the end. Keep in mind this weapon is more useful than just the blade, use the length to not only keep your opponent at bay, but to also use it's leverage against your opponenet. bayonets. There is not a single state in the unions that outlaw bayonets, while it may be illegal to carry them in public, but you can still own them, however bayonets generally are made out of mass produced midgrade steel, if you are planning on buying a good knife, spring for something a little more expensive than a cheap surplus model. Monk's Spade This weapon is so rare and impractical it has no business being on the list scythe scythes are for cutting grass and grain, not for cutting down fleash, they have very thin, weak edges. baseball bat putting a good thick layer of grip tape on on the handle works wonders on vibrations. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 2 2008, 11:45 PM EDT Chainsaw I feel that this weapon gets a notoriously bad rap on this website. Chainsaws are not a swinging weapon, you keep the engine tight near your chest and you don't swing it, once that chain is spinning it will cut through flesh and bone like it was butter, lubercation would also not be as much of an issue when cutting wet materials. Chainsaws DO not need regular cleaning and sharpening a chain would not be an issue with such a soft material. also a chainsaw can idle for almost an hour before its out of gas. My only concern would be the spray of blood from the undead. Handsaw take that off of the list, it has zero, practical use as a weapon. Torch WHoever suggested the idea of soaking a rag in alchohol for a torch has obviously never played with fire. Alcohol burns very quickly and very dimly. Soaking a rag in diesel or kerosene would produce a substantially more useful and longer burning flame. Pool Ball Firing a pool ball out of a slingshot? Come on, you'd be better off throwing it. Driving Wheel Have you ever pulled a steering wheel off of a car? this isn't a weapon paintball Good idea for an improvised weapon, add a note about maxing out the velocity with the gas adjustment, painball guns can get well up into 600fps which would be lethal with a ball bearing or marble 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 12:33 AM EDT Folks, please do not confuse “weapons of opportunity” for “preferences”; I’d PREFER they simply all kill themselves by immolation in a medical waste kiln, nice and neat, in orderly lines after pulling their own teeth (to extract gold and other metals). I don’t expect them to do that, though. Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 12:39 AM EDT perhaps being a little more specific would help, My point about the car steering wheel is simply because it is very difficult to remove one quickly, it'd be faster to find a pipe or stick in the area. i entirely agree that any weapon is bettter than no weapon, but i'd rather spend a few minutes hunting down a piece of pipe before i'd waste time trying to pull the steering wheel off the car. and my point about the scythe is simply because of the wording in the weapons section calling it an effective weapon. it just seems to me that this website is slanted to be a practical survivor's guide, however a large amount of the data seems to be very slanted, i mean do any of the melee weapons besides the katana have linked videos? Do you find this valuable? |
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Dontknowtilitstolate |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 11:04 AM EDT "Chainsawwell the thing with chainsaws is that they need constant refills of bar and chain oil it isnt a likely weapon even if its cutting through a wet material it will eat up the oil i know from experiance i cut up dead trees for cash and the if not oiled properly it will ceaze and hurt the one using it Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 1:51 PM EDT constant is a varied term, on mine i generally refill the bar resivoir every time i refill the gas tank. Its not a weapon you are going hiking with but if you are working out of a vehicle its a solid weapon, its all a matter of the situation. I also cut trees for money, i've spent two years in colorado clearing pines, and i chop up beech trees and various pines in michigan. Its a weapon that you should use if you have expireance with it, just like high end firearms and the katana. i'm pointing out an area in the weapons section that i feel is incorrect. Do you find this valuable? |
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LemonArtist |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 8:32 PM EDT Melle wepons have thier bad points but if your low on ammo in a real jam and cant aim Melle is the way to go. Get a long range melle wepons Long sword Chains Flails Things of those natrue would help a lot. Do you find this valuable? |
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LemonArtist |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 3 2008, 8:33 PM EDT "Melle wepons have thier bad points but if your low on ammo in a real jam and cant aim Melle is the way to go. Get a long range melle wepons Long sword Chains Flails Things of those natrue would help a lot."Sorry for my spelling =P i know its meele Do you find this valuable? |
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CharliFenwick |
RE: Issue with meele weapons
Oct 4 2008, 3:25 AM EDT hmmm....a light saber or plasma sword would be perfect. But on a series note, the cutting yourself scenario is dangerous. It will be important to keep any melee weapon clean. And practice, practice, PRACTICE! Do you find this valuable? |
