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Custom Armour
Apr 20 2008, 12:47 PM EDT
When Z-Day comes I have a plan if I get time to find metals and make them into a suit of custom armour. These armour sets could fairly easily be made with the right equipment (you could probably get the equipment from a high school tech department and the materials from lots of things, like metal from abandoned cars). Just a thought, I may post the details for one of these suits of armour at a later date.
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alicestar |
1. RE: Custom Armour
Apr 20 2008, 1:01 PM EDT
you may wanna try making custom plastic molds out of fiberglass and then use lexan plastic for your armor. lexan is extriemly light and has been used as balistic glass all over the world because of its streingth. fiberglass itself is not a bad idea either. I just think sheetmetal is going to be a little heavy and alot harder to manipulate not to mention sharp. but in the end you should go with what your comfortable working with and using!
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Legion12 |
2. RE: Custom Armour
Apr 20 2008, 1:02 PM EDT
Your armour doesn't have to be thick, your not trying to stop a weapon, only teeth. Some leather to start with and you could get by with something as thin as coffe cans, cut and round sharp edges. If your armour is too heavy, they can catch you and just hold you till you die of thirst. Having wore a bit of plate armour, I would got for speed and manuveralablity. Enland has the best Scampi!!
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Talon12 |
3. RE: Custom Armour
Apr 20 2008, 1:23 PM EDT
Scotland has the best Scampi!! But then again I've only been to Scotland.Metal Plate can get very hot and you will need alot more water with it than with out it. Can be slow getting in and out, need squires to speed things up. Chainmail is more manuverable (sp?) but you still have the wieght issue. Plastic sounds great- do not know it personally. Leather is a great defence, thats why the bikers use it. It is easyier to get in and out of. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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onekoolkat200 |
5. RE: Custom Armour
Apr 28 2008, 9:48 PM EDT
i was thinking take alicestar's idea and instead of reinventing the wheel here and make whole pieces of armor make seperate pieces and ribbit them to a motocycle jacket and motorcycle pants that way weight is reduced, no skin is exposed between gaps in the armor, plus it will go on a lot faster.
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BanditJack |
6. RE: Custom Armour
May 27 2008, 9:35 PM EDT
I hadn't personally put much thought into armor past my leather jacket. I have a motorcycle (rocker) jacket, that fits well, and is quite tough. It also has a surprising amount of storage space, so I could carry some things in it without having to add my vest. When put up, the collar completely covers my neck, and I can pull in the lacing. I really want good knee and elbow pads, because they are a godsend in a combat situation.
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Thrawn5 |
7. RE: Custom Armour
Jun 1 2008, 8:27 PM EDT
Yes you can make the armour very easily with the right equipment, but do you know how to USE the equipment? From what I have seen posted on this thread so far I would say that Alicestar and Onekoolkat200's ideas are the best, most of the general public doesn't have the material or skill to make these things. For the average person, just get a think leather jacket and learn how to do this stuff as soon as possible (you never know when the zeds will surface).
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
8. RE: Custom Armour
Jun 2 2008, 1:58 AM EDT
"When Z-Day comes I have a plan if I get time to find metals and make them into a suit of custom armour. These armour sets could fairly easily be made with the right equipment (you could probably get the equipment from a high school tech department and the materials from lots of things, like metal from abandoned cars). Just a thought, I may post the details for one of these suits of armour at a later date."Why wait? Start toady. If you got a friend who can make their own clothese, ask them to help; Therewise, go by a thift store and buy a few pairs of pants and shirts for patterns. Split the seams, overlay over paper (I used grogery store bags myself) to make the patterns, then adjust it from there. Legion 12 made a great point, it doesn't have to stop katanas, grenades, marine and police- Just teeth. And nails to a lesser extent. Good luck! 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ww3sabiture |
9. RE: Custom Armour
Jun 23 2008, 9:21 PM EDT
http://www.armourarchive.org/essays/for patterns tools and all the stuff needed to make it Do you find this valuable? |
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smadmead |
10. RE: Custom Armour
Dec 28 2008, 2:50 PM EST
I think with the right tools and a lot of time (3-10 years, nanotechnology, organic computing...) you could make a suit similar to the HEV suit from Half Life. Just speculation, though... my friends and I have been working some concepts for the ACS (Armored Combat Suit) Protective System.
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The_Chef |
11. RE: Custom Armour
Dec 29 2008, 1:33 AM EST
The problems I see here are:Metal: hot, heavy, hard to produce/maintain/repair Platic: hard to produce, cannot feild repair Leather: must be carefully maintained, hard to repair without leather working knowledge Remember, you need something you are familier with and have access to. What happens if you tear, crack or rip you leather platic or metal. How many of you can honestly say you would be able to repair that? And once your armour is damaged you have created a weak spot that would probably spread, defeating the point of the armour. Answer: Fabric. Yep, fabric. Think about it. A strong fabric is all that is needed to stop a set of teeth, or nails. Go and try to bite through a pair or denim jeans or nomex. Wearing fabric armour you will be more comfortable and flexable, as well as silent without the clanking of hard surfaces. If you damage your armour more supplies should be common. Depending on how advanced and the material you should be able to repair minor to moderate damage with more fabric and a heavy gauge needle. Think about the strength of a peice of armour made of a couple layers of denim, nomex or heavy linen. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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thecardsharp |
12. RE: Custom Armour
Dec 30 2008, 8:20 AM EST
"The problems I see here are:dragginjeans.com they make jeans with kevlar woven in, as well as underlayer garments weaved with kevlar. virtually tear proof and fire resistant. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IrishHitman |
13. RE: Custom Armour
Dec 30 2008, 8:26 AM EST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata
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DeathHead02 |
14. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 2:38 AM EST
"The problems I see here are:But if you take a bite the sheer will likely rip your skin up from the muscles and bones and induce some bleeding, and while most of the time leather will be element proofed enough to resists drool and saliva how will denim fair? If the saliva soaks through the fabric and onto your damaged skin you could get infected quite easily. I think the key pro of leather isnt its protecton from physical harm but its ability to repel infected bodily fluids. But we I think armour beyond leather is unneccesary, if they bite you they probobly have a hold on you which means your going to be sucking pavement real fast, and once your on the ground its over. Maybe they cant bite through your armour but the appropiate amount of infuriated pulling and ripping and youve got a nice exposed belly for them to dig into. So I suppose by saying this Im conflicting with what I said earlier, but I agree that although leather seems more reliable, heavy set fabric should be a good choice aswell. But anything beyond leather, no matter how light and protective, would encumber your movement too much, cause once the buttons or zipper of your coat is being torn open, Youre done. Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
15. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 6:30 AM EST
"The problems I see here are:what do you mean by produce? The word produce brings to mind the idea of making something from scratch at which point the "production" of plastic is indeed difficult, however given the fact that many things today are made of plastic, or at least have a protective plastic shells, the need for the actual production of plastic would be non existent, as suitably rigid plastic can be made from the melting down of common plastic items. Even tho this may be over simplifying things a bit, I think plastic would indeed be the best material for the job as it can be lighter than metals or leather, requires less maintenance than the two, and is generally less heat conductive/holding than them as well, not to mention it does not corrode either. the idea of fabrics is a good one, however the problem with this is that fabric is just that, fabric, and is by design non rigid, allowing crushing of the flesh underneath regardless of the material used. The clanking of hard surfaces is a good thing to think about however can be negated by the simple application of a material buffer(fabric being a good choice :P), along along this line, layering fabric can be far more uncomfortable than rigid materials for the simple fact that a good fabric suitable for the purpose defined will inherently hold heat in well which would be the reason for the discomfort obviously. very simply IMO the most usable armor would be a harness of Kevlar or like material with light but ridged plastic plates covered in the same material as the harness, most likely in a configuration suitable for maximum movement wile providing maximum protection, basically that being a mixing of classic Western and Asian armors, with a few personal additions to make it close fitting, and to give it the ability to tear away if need be wile remaining secure otherwise. obviously just my opinion and not the gospel but things to think about nun the less. Do you find this valuable? |
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NorCalSurvivors |
16. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 4:37 PM EST
I am only worried about 2 things ... 1) being bitten, and 2) being grabbed and held before being bitten.I think standard leather and heavy cloth covers item 1 above. Item 2 above is covered pretty well by the application of duct tape and tyvek ... which also increases the effectiveness against item 1 above. Duct tape is so ubiquitous it's scary in just about any color you want. It makes and excellent on the spot clothing patch and is so useful otherwise that it's just plain a crime not have a lot of it on hand anyway. The outer surface is slippery, and the adhesive is designed to work when wet or oily. You can find all the tyvek you need at UPS, FedEx, etc. drop boxes ... just cut up the evelopes. Tyvek is pretty slippery stuff and felixible as heel ... cut the envelopes and wrap your forearms, biceps, thighs and calves. Create tyvek 'patches' for your shoulders and neck area. DUCT TAPE this stuff together and fasten where needed. You ought to have a paintball-style face mask and helmet ... light plastic is just fine. DUCT TAPE that crap to your head so it can't be ripped off. DUCT TAPE your gloves to your sleeves, and your pants to your boots so they can't be pulled up. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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John_234 |
17. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Paintball masks suck. So do airsoft ones.No splash protection, very little impact protection, more often for style then anything else, lots of open spots, flexible design and often in bright colors They also make shoulding rifles a bitch. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Borathian |
18. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 5:34 PM EST
"Paintball masks suck. So do airsoft ones.A hockey helmet and mask/cage combo would be a good alternative or perhaps one of the high impact clear plastic face shields. holes aren't necessarily a problem in a mask as they can easily be covered underneath the mask with something like a Balaclava so all you really need is eye protection, tho something like a paintball/airsoft mask should also be worn with a helmet as they only cover the face. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SurvivingSavage |
19. RE: Custom Armour
Jan 18 2009, 5:40 PM EST
Get a wet suit. They offer bite protection and they're pretty light.
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