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JustinMcleod |
Air Guns
May 12 2008, 9:01 PM EDT
I own a few air guns and would like to say that I feel confident that they could defend my life from Zack!I have a standard .177 B2 air rifle, decent power, very cheap and accurate enough to hit (and damage) zeds head from 25 metres (50 metres if you have a scope). I have a .22 Umarex 850 air-magnum. I LOVE this rifle. it's accurate, and when fitted with a scope, you can get some powerful shots up to 75 metres with a grouping of around 3 inches! Lastly, I own the Anics Skif A-3000 Co2 Pistol. It has a 28 shot magazine, fires .177 pellets and is semi-automatic. so you can crack off a whole clip in 10 seconds! At distances of 5-25 metres you could drop zed dead on the floor. nothing is gonna survive 28 pellets in the face! So to all the folks in the USA, you may have some crazy-ass weapons, but we Brits can hold our own with whatever we ahve on hand! 6 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Legion12 |
1. RE: Air Guns
May 12 2008, 9:46 PM EDT
The air rifles in the UK are more powerful than say the standard American Crossman Marksman or Daisy. How ever they cost as much as some bullet firing rifles. Use what you have, be good with what you have.
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DaveBall |
2. RE: weapns in the UK
May 17 2008, 2:24 PM EDT
Imagination will allow for creation of weapons. Don't underestimate tools. I was wondering about Black Powder guns are they legal in England?
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JustinMcleod |
3. RE: weapns in the UK
May 17 2008, 3:47 PM EDT
There are VERY strict laws on ownership of guns here in the UK. so anything that has a combustable element requires a license. HOWEVER, airsoft and paintball enthusiasm has led to the acceptance of openly available pyrotechnics. We also have fireworks etc. So a make-shift weapon utilising any of these sources would be easy to manufacture. and in a survival situation as intense as the zack-attack, there would be no police/law enforcement to regulate any such activity.So all in all, I would favour a rocket launcher to deliver customized fireworks into a crowd of Zeds. Similarly, a standard spud-cannon would be fun and could be loaded with tennis balls injected with kerosine.....this would be useful only for the deployment of fire. Do you find this valuable? |
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iamMetaluna |
4. RE: weapns in the UK
May 17 2008, 4:27 PM EDT
"Similarly, a standard spud-cannon would be fun and could be loaded with tennis balls injected with kerosine.....this would be useful only for the deployment of fire."Haha. In this neck of the woods we call them "tater guns." I'd avoid home made explosives if possible b/c you might wind up with a few fingers short of an even ten. Plus using fire may have unexpected consequences - like setting stuff on fire that you didn't mean to, or an undead horde on fire that's not feeling any pain bearing down on you. It takes a lot of sustained heat to incinerate a human body, and you may only cause superficial wounds that would only be dire to a living person. Do you find this valuable? |
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JustinMcleod |
5. RE: weapns in the UK
May 17 2008, 5:45 PM EDT
Hehehe. I think handling any form of tool or weapon could result in an injury, so it's just down to common sense and being careful. I've known a machete (commonly thought of as the ultimate zombie killer) to hack into a thumb because the grip was wet. I've known a simple swiss army knife saw blade to cut to the bone in one slip because of a momentary lapse in concentration. What I'm getting at is: Incendiary devices and civilian pyrotechnics/fireworks are no more dangerous than a simple, every-day tool. you just have to know what you're doing and always be careful. But Spud Cannons/Tater Guns are a valuable, and much-underestimated weapon against the undead. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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iamMetaluna |
6. RE: weapns in the UK
May 17 2008, 6:03 PM EDT
"But Spud Cannons/Tater Guns are a valuable, and much-underestimated weapon against the undead."Lol- fair enough. Literature after the outbreak: "...and yay he did smite the hordes of zombies with a potato rifle and feasted upon the breakfast cereals there-after... and there was much rejoicing." 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Cylon1994 |
7. RE: Air Guns
May 19 2008, 9:05 AM EDT
I also own an airgun. It's 750 fps and I know people who use them to hunt small game such as gophers and rabbits. They are more quiet than other guns and I figure if you landing a shot in the eye socket from 10 feet away that the zombie would be out of commision. I would use it as a back up weapon/
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Jesden |
8. RE: Air Guns
Jun 2 2008, 3:25 PM EDT
luckily, with air guns you dont actually have to keep the ammo separated and locked up, you also dont have someone coming around to look at safety measures. So if this is all you can get, go for it, get good, and you can kill a zack just as well, if you can hit a coin you can hit an eye, is what I go by. or, get somewhere safe to keep, them, and get both an air and a bullet rifle... win/win
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
9. RE: Air Guns
Jun 2 2008, 3:59 PM EDT
"The air rifles in the UK are more powerful than say the standard American Crossman Marksman or Daisy. How ever they cost as much as some bullet firing rifles. Use what you have, be good with what you have."True in all aspects; If you don't have mechanical shoring, use 4X4's; No 4X4's, use 2X4's. No bus, use a sedan. No assault rifles, use airguns. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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BanditJack |
10. RE: Air Guns
Jun 10 2008, 11:07 PM EDT
While some good things for air rifles have been said, let's leave no delusions. I personally, would not entrust my life to an air rifle. They do not possess the penetration power, nor the stopping power that is needed in intense combat. Yes, you can hunt small game with it, but remember, humans are NOT small game. The skull is also very tough, and for a reason. The chance (out of 100) of hitting a moving target the size of a quarter, under high stress/close quarter battle, is approximately 0, give or take .001 And Zeus help you if they're rage zombies!
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Thrawn5 |
11. RE: Air Guns
Jun 12 2008, 7:23 PM EDT
I have a pretty good airgun, it has two changeable barrels (one for .177s and one for 22 cal pellets), I know that the .177 pellets can go around 1400 fps (420 meters per second) and the .22 cals can go at least 950 fps (285 meters per second). I pretty sure that this can take down a zed as long as you are within 25 feet (especially if you get it in the eye).I guess you just make do with what you have, just make sure that you take more than your fair share of zeds with you if you die. Do you find this valuable? |
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Empty[UK] |
12. RE: Air Guns
Jun 18 2008, 3:10 PM EDT
In my Air Rifle Section, i own:A .22 Cometta, never let me down yet + its got a decent scope too. Overall pretty standard. An old .22 Comet that i took to peices and did it up. Alright range, not much power. My pride and joy, a .22 Weihrauch, Underleaver, Dear hunting scope, EXTREMELY powerful for an air rifle and deadly accurate. (I took a crow the other day at 60 yards, dead on) I use to have some .177's, they were accurate, but would do absolutely nothing to a human (Hence left me with a bad impression on .177's) And Two .177 air pistols that would be alright but you'd have to be very close. Do you find this valuable? |
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crowleyj |
13. RE: weapns in the UK
Jun 18 2008, 4:11 PM EDT
"There are VERY strict laws on ownership of guns here in the UK. so anything that has a combustable element requires a license. HOWEVER, airsoft and paintball enthusiasm has led to the acceptance of openly available pyrotechnics. We also have fireworks etc. So a make-shift weapon utilising any of these sources would be easy to manufacture. and in a survival situation as intense as the zack-attack, there would be no police/law enforcement to regulate any such activity.I hope your right about the law enforcement. I can just see a bunch of liberal cosmopolitan types coming out of hiding on demanding your arrest for violating the peace. Even if their body guards did that to. After all can't all the peon masses to think for them self lol. Do you find this valuable? |
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The.Mad.Badger |
14. RE: weapns in the UK
Jul 19 2008, 2:34 PM EDT
most air rifles you can buy 'off the shelf' are restricted to 12ft lbs power arnt they??as some have already said, if its all you got, use it. But i would question the ability of a 12 ftlbs air rifle to kill a z. Lets just say for example that we know a haed shot will kill senior Zack. I was shot with an air rifle in the back of the leg about 4 years ago, from about 30 meters; the pellet got about 3/4 inch penitration.......... but the question is: Would that same pellet penitrate the cramium at that distance??? ive hit and killed a rabbit at about 60 meters with an air rifle (air arms s410 carbine). would this just be a minor anoyance to mr z??? disguss Do you find this valuable? |
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Lamnont |
15. RE: Air Guns
Jul 19 2008, 4:01 PM EDT
"So to all the folks in the USA, you may have some crazy-ass weapons, but we Brits can hold our own with whatever we ahve on hand!"Uh...why don't you stop gun control in your country? I feel sorry for taking out your BB guns and acting like you could kill some one with those. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HeavenlySword |
16. RE: Air Guns
Jul 19 2008, 4:52 PM EDT
www.TheHomeGunsmith.com has plans for an AMG. Ballistically, because of uneven grain burning and the air pressure being constant, AMGs are more stable ballistically.Still, firearms do not require canisters of HPA or CO2, and do not need to be recharged, and are more reliable in most cases 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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The.Mad.Badger |
17. RE: Air Guns
Jul 23 2008, 3:43 AM EDT
"Uh...why don't you stop gun control in your country? I feel sorry for taking out your BB guns and acting like you could kill some one with those."gun control. The reason handguns are now illegal(apart from certain cercumstances) in the uk, is thanks to one or two people; literally. About june 1996 i think; a man named Hamilton walked into a school in Dunblane, Scotland, and started shooting children. 16 children died. Also in 1987 a bloke called Ryan killed 14 people with an auto rifle and piston. 'Why dont we stop gun control? ' If it stops nutters getting guns and killing more children, i can live without them. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DeathHawk |
18. RE: Air Guns
Jul 28 2008, 4:31 PM EDT
An airgun is good at least a gas one but Iv'e got a paintball gun in .68 calliber it can fire fully auto and holds 200 rounds if you hit a human in the eye it goes into the brain and kills them thats why they wear masks, you can also get metal ballbearings that can git into a paintball gun that would easiy break a skull and brain. By the way hundreds of thousands of guns are meant to have been imported into England alone, also as there has been an increase in gun crime recently this would suggest there are more guns avaliable illegally, so when the zed appocalypse comes you should be able to buy guns of the black market.
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19. RE: Air Guns
Jul 28 2008, 6:05 PM EDT
Air guns are shaky ground at best, due to the fact that air guns are many times used for recreation, and not combat. High-powered air-guns will become less and less available as time goes on, fail-safes will be placed to prevent the use of alternative ammunition (ball bearings instead of paint balls and so on). if you really want to plan for z-day, make sure that what you have can do what you want it.You really don't want to go into battle with a people-friendly weapon. :P Do you find this valuable? |