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Don-diego
Don-diego
NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
May 20 2008, 3:07 AM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2008, 3:07 AM EDT
If you plan to travel to a safe place in a car on motorbike you're probably gonna end up running out of fuel a quarter of the way there, to many people will try to exit the city the fastest way they can the road's will be so block it'll take hours to get anywhere and in those hours every zombie out's gonna catch up to them, then they'd get owned. most 4X4's aren't made offroad factory standard and you'll end up breaking down cross country, the noise of the motor's going to attract more zombies and lead them stumbling in your direction for miles until they find you or someone else, all though you could keep a push bike in the back and when there's no heading over a route you can walk over with your bike and ride off, a bmx is a better choice then a mountain bike because they're way more easy to fix and the chain doesn't fall off nearly as much, you can also tighten your chain whenever you want instead of tooling around with all that gear nonsense, i'd wanna make a stop off at an abandoned police cruiser and see if i could salvage any weapons or ammo though, i reckon your best bet's to get to a dock and find the next yacht, stock up on raided supplys and leave one of your mates there to guard the boat, once you've got enough food to last you and maybe a couple fishing rods, find a map of the world and make it to the next island that's a suitable distance from land, other wise zombie's would just float up to you and your base and start owning if there's enough of them 13  out of 14 found this valuable. Do you?    
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richboy33lb
richboy33lb
1. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Jun 2 2008, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 5:02 PM EDT
I agree. But not only just highways. Every road is going to be full of hundres, if not thousnads of cars. Seaports and airports will be full of dead bodies and vehicles. Not only that, but many vehicles may have zombies inside who were drivers or passangers, therefore rendering the vehicle useless. The best use is to siphon gas out of such cars, or take the tires. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
2. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Jun 2 2008, 5:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 5:19 PM EDT
" i reckon your best bet's to get to a dock and find the next yacht"
Hahahahaha!!!
Abnd you know exactly WHAT about sailing, eh? Do you know your port from your bow? Stern from deck? Is it an overhead or a mizzen?
IF you know sailing, I mean actually KNOW sailing, and have a plan as to where to go, then the marititime escape plan can work out. Otherwise, you've gone from a modicum of survival by escaping and evading to a garuntee of death by drowning.

Sorry, but hoping "on some asshole's boat and sailing off into the sunset to head for some island which may not even exist, and if it does, then run into a ruined city of hundreds of dead cannibals" isn't a realistic option for the average survivor- It's an even worse plan, than no plan at all.
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crowleyj
crowleyj
3. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Jun 2 2008, 5:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 5:32 PM EDT
the boat plan can be modified in that sit. Do not go for a yacht go for tugs. pirate ships they had smaller crews then a city. may have non infected naval ships out there. not to bad an idea if done right. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
alicestar
alicestar
4. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Jun 2 2008, 6:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 6:02 PM EDT
"the boat plan can be modified in that sit. Do not go for a yacht go for tugs. pirate ships they had smaller crews then a city. may have non infected naval ships out there. not to bad an idea if done right. "
boats are an easy mod with a few HH2 generators you have a whole ocean of fuel and with solar you have constant power. if it can desalinize water then you have a damn good idea!
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zuzak
5. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Jun 6 2008, 8:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2008, 8:43 PM EDT
A car is far superior to a bike.
1. A car is enclosed
2. A car can hold more people
3. Since a bike can only hold one person, you can't take shifts, so you'll have to sleep in the open
4. A car can carry more stuff
5. The road problem can be avoided by taking side roads, or going off-road
6. You can get fuel from isolated gas stations, or small towns.
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gibgab555
6. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 20 2009, 10:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 10:13 PM EDT
"A car is far superior to a bike.
1. A car is enclosed
2. A car can hold more people
3. Since a bike can only hold one person, you can't take shifts, so you'll have to sleep in the open
4. A car can carry more stuff
5. The road problem can be avoided by taking side roads, or going off-road
6. You can get fuel from isolated gas stations, or small towns."
it isn't.
1. bikes are much more maneuverable then cars.
2. more people as a group means more zombies. arrange a location with your group & travel in pairs.
3. same answer as 2.
4.since the car will inevitably get stuck ,(it will trust me) when it does that just means more stuff to haul.
5. shortly after people hear that the highway is suicide, they will begin taking side roads & back entrances. it will be only a matter of time before all roads get blocked.
6. electricity is used to pump the gas through to the surface. since the electricity will be out, you won't be able to pump gas. & people will have taken the surface gas long before you get there.
& the same will happen with small towns.

car=VERY bad idea.
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gibgab555
7. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 20 2009, 10:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 10:18 PM EDT
" i'd wanna make a stop off at an abandoned police cruiser and see if i could salvage any weapons or ammo though, i reckon your best bet's to get to a dock and find the next yacht, stock up on raided supplys and leave one of your mates there to guard the boat, once you've got enough food to last you and maybe a couple fishing rods, find a map of the world and make it to the next island that's a suitable distance from land, other wise zombie's would just float up to you and your base and start owning if there's enough of them"
i wouldn't go for a yacht, because lots of desperate people who think they can sail off to an island & live in peace will be doing the exact same thing. & alot of the crowd will be bitten, so even if you can spare a boat it will be a massive challenge to secure it, send a raiding group & expect them to come back. & if every one in your group have little if not no experience sailing,( having to have been on a yacht as a guest does not count) you don't have much of a chance setting sale, navigating, & finding a safe landing spot on an inhabitable island, especially with everyone else setting sale as well.
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kyallroad
kyallroad
8. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 20 2009, 11:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 11:16 PM EDT
On boats:
I've owned sailboats. I can see taking an abandoned yacht (35'-60') into the Caribbean if the states are untenable but given my current location it would be a LOOONG journey through unknown challenges to get to the ocean. Staying here is my best bet but whatever works for you.

On bikes:
If all you are doing is getting out of a major urban area, the bike might be the best bet. Almost immediately however a medium/large SUV or pickup will be the way to go.

Driven slowly and carefully a Suburban/Sequioa/Armada is just about unstoppable, you can go around most obstacles or through a bottleneck if necessary.
The problem with the bike is supplies, they just can't carry much and leave you exposed to zeds and the elements constantly (think about escaping Boston in February on a bike).
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Bipp
9. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 20 2009, 11:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 11:32 PM EDT
"it isn't.
1. bikes are much more maneuverable then cars.
2. more people as a group means more zombies. arrange a location with your group & travel in pairs.
3. same answer as 2.
4.since the car will inevitably get stuck ,(it will trust me) when it does that just means more stuff to haul.
5. shortly after people hear that the highway is suicide, they will begin taking side roads & back entrances. it will be only a matter of time before all roads get blocked.
6. electricity is used to pump the gas through to the surface. since the electricity will be out, you won't be able to pump gas. & people will have taken the surface gas long before you get there.
& the same will happen with small towns.

car=VERY bad idea."
2. How do you figure?
3. ?
5. Most will bo on the main road and it will be too late for them.
6.Generator?

Bikes will make it easier to get injured or bitten. You would be better off walking.
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
10. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 20 2009, 11:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 11:34 PM EDT
Yeah, judging by the wall'o text and the all Capitals thread title I'd say Silent Bob's never driven a car in his life.

And honestly, I've got a truck that holds far, far, far more than any bike could, can get over more terrain, and can vastly outrun it.

I've been getting almost twenty-seven miles to the gallon with all-wheel drive and a bit of a lead foot. And for a "soft-roader" it can get through a lot of crap that I didn't expect it could handle.

Bikes are nice but none of those claims have proof or evidence to back them up.
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
11. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 21 2009, 1:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 21 2009, 1:42 AM EDT
OP, come talk to me as you try to pedal you one-speed BMX bike up a hill to get to your boat as I drive past you in my M35 laughing. Do you find this valuable?    

Johnnyboy007
12. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 3:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 3:40 PM EDT
Nah I'll probably be the one laughing while I casually ride my bike... and you're getting mobbed and shot at by every tom, dick and harry who needs a ride/gas.
Off Roading vehicles are fine... but that kind of wear and tear is eventually going to catch up to you and how are you going to fix a wrecked suspension/broken axle/electrical problems on the fly.
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Birdman44
Birdman44
13. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 3:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 3:56 PM EDT
I love how everyone thinks that as soon as zombies hit people will go nuts, the roads will be packed and all the supplies from every store will be raided as well as the gas stations being empty. Its a good thought, but what if it doesn't happen? what if it hits everyone and panic sets in but they stay in there houses? Really.. Where will they go? And if this really all does happen how can you expect a dock to have boats? What if people swarm that instead and leave the town deserted with almost no traffic and nothing but a few broken windows in some stores with useless stuff stolen? Do you find this valuable?    

Johnnyboy007
14. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 4:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 4:06 PM EDT
Personally I think going to a dock would be equal to suicide. You don't think people would go nuts? Go to any large city during rush hour.... people have a little bit of a temper. Now imagine people perceive something harmful behind them, whether it be a fire, riot or zombies..... people woudl go ape ****. Traffic would jam horribly... eventually people would get out and walk, if they make it past the traffic jams what are they going to do? No one wants to walk.... so any people they come across ina vehicle is fair game. If I thought my family and I were going to die on the side of the road without a car or truck and one drove by I can guarantee that I would do anything to stop it. Even if it made the car unuseable. In the heat of the moment I would have no problem putting a 3030 round into a stranger's stomach to save my family, and I can imagine there are alot of others out there. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
15. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 4:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 4:20 PM EDT
"Nah I'll probably be the one laughing while I casually ride my bike... and you're getting mobbed and shot at by every tom, dick and harry who needs a ride/gas.
Off Roading vehicles are fine... but that kind of wear and tear is eventually going to catch up to you and how are you going to fix a wrecked suspension/broken axle/electrical problems on the fly."
Electrical problems? Wrecked suspension? Son, do you even know what an M35A2 is? Plus my truck is packed with all the tools I would need to do a field repair in the unlikely event something breaks. Including a welder. Not even considering my status as an ASE certified MasterTech who has been building and fixing off road trucks my entire life.

The truck is also loaded with over a month's worth of food and carries 100 gallons of water, along with a comfy bed to sleep in and a toilet to take a dump in. And a shower. And all my weapons.

I don't plan to be "mobbed" by anyone, seeing as I generally stay pretty far from heavily populated areas.

And fuel? From diesel to jet fuel to used waste oil to filtered crude... this truck burns it all. Did you know that municipal electrical transformers contain about 20 gallons of mineral oil? That's fuel for me!

And if the truck does somehow get disabled, well that's when I pull my dirtbike off the back and grab my BOB.

Have fun with your pedal power tho...
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Johnnyboy007
16. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 4:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 4:41 PM EDT
"And fuel? From diesel to jet fuel to used waste oil to filtered crude... this truck burns it all. Did you know that municipal electrical transformers contain about 20 gallons of mineral oil? That's fuel for me! "
Yeah.... jet fuel....diesel... and mineral oil... those are all pretty sweet if you can find them. Except that you can't use the most abundant syphonable fuel around withot a ******** of oil... have fun pouring gas into your truck/tank and having it sieze up.
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
17. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 4:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 4:45 PM EDT
Have you ever really worked on a vehicle? Sorry, but your claims tell me you're real-life experience is severely limited. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
18. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 6:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 6:24 PM EDT
"Yeah.... jet fuel....diesel... and mineral oil... those are all pretty sweet if you can find them. Except that you can't use the most abundant syphonable fuel around withot a ******** of oil... have fun pouring gas into your truck/tank and having it sieze up."
Explain.
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RisingTide
RisingTide
19. RE: NO FUELED VEHICLES ALLOWED ON LAND
Sep 24 2009, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 24 2009, 9:33 PM EDT
"Yeah.... jet fuel....diesel... and mineral oil... those are all pretty sweet if you can find them. Except that you can't use the most abundant syphonable fuel around withot a ******** of oil... have fun pouring gas into your truck/tank and having it sieze up."
It looks like someone as no idea what hes talking about, I highly doubt a M35 is just going to break down all of sudden and from what hes saying he could handle it.
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