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residentmagnum |
barricade
Jun 6 2008, 5:10 PM EDT anything can work Zombies are stupid and slow not like the running zombies in movies A barricade doesn't need to be bullet proof, but if your afraid of other humans then keep reenforcing as you find new material use a Car if possible to block doors or windows use the furnature in your home old tires if you got them rebar sindar blocks and concrete to make a stone wall wood, chain, wire start by locking the doors, then put something infront of them shut all windows and nail them shut or board them up if possible I recomend watching dawn of the dead and night of the living dead the origanls not the remakes 7 out of 10 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 7:40 AM EDT We don't know for sure, what if these braineating bastards can run? than you will send a huge thank you to your Maker, when you have installed some nice punji-sticks around your perimeter. What I want to say, don't be so ignorant and say, NO zombies can't run, so i don't need to barricade everything. If a Zombiecalypse ever occurs, you need to be ready for almost everything, because what if it's like in resident evil, that even animals could be turned in flesh-hungry monsters? If you have a dog, try the next time you walk with him to run faster than him, you'll see it would be very tough to be faster than him and than add the what if he's infected and tries to eat you? The fact is, there hasn't been an outbreak yet and if anyone want's to prepare for something like this, he's got to sit down and think about all the what if's that could occur. Anyways, my preferred idea of a barricade/fortification, is a nice farm in some rural area next to a well or a little creek surrounded by a huge wall/fence topped with some NATO-wire. If you have some extra time or extra money you can also turn the underground of your farm-base into a bunkercomplex. Now having some fellow survivors, a large amount of guns of any caliber, some solar panels on the roof alongside with a backup generator and 2-3 Cadillac Gage Commandos at your farm-base, you'll be fine 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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residentmagnum |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 12:55 PM EDT True many are split if zombies can run or if animals could become zombies there hasn't been an outbreak yet I don't think zombies could run but if they could they may also be able to get around a trap no matter how much money or time you put into it I don't think going under ground is a good ideal watch the origanl day of the dead george remaro movie I recomend higher ground and you think lower maybe were both wrong maybe were both right 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 1:42 PM EDT Actually I am talking about a heavy fortified Bunker, with big heavy metal doors (Something like the Swiss Reduit, take a look at wikipedia, they turned their part of the alps into a big fortification against Nazi Germany), expensive to build but also worth it in any case (Tornado, Terrorist Attack, Nuclear Fallout, War and Z-Day) but what's doing the Trick is the combination of fortifications,like digging a moat around your perimeter wall spiking it with some Bouncing Betty like IEDs, but this means long term prepardness and if they're would be smart enough to get around my trap, maybe they're as smart as these I am Legend Zombie-like creatures and then a wouldn't give a shit, because then we'll be screwed anyways ;D 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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geenius3ab |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 3:34 PM EDT "Actually I am talking about a heavy fortified Bunker, with big heavy metal doors (Something like the Swiss Reduit, take a look at wikipedia, they turned their part of the alps into a big fortification against Nazi Germany), expensive to build but also worth it in any case (Tornado, Terrorist Attack, Nuclear Fallout, War and Z-Day) but what's doing the Trick is the combination of fortifications,like digging a moat around your perimeter wall spiking it with some Bouncing Betty like IEDs, but this means long term prepardness and if they're would be smart enough to get around my trap, maybe they're as smart as these I am Legend Zombie-like creatures and then a wouldn't give a shit, because then we'll be screwed anywaysWell i dont think that we will be screwed if we are prepeared enough...Little barricades what are like 2 meters high or fences are good enough for protection cause i don't think that they can climb (Well their brains aren't working and that figures, so they should be as dumb like an stupid dog.) up the walls and the only thing that zombies are able to do is to push and to bite so the barricade shouldn't be that complex and an little tower to keep an eye on them should be enough. :D Do you find this valuable? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 5:29 PM EDT The point is and that's what i am trying to tell you, if u ever been confronted with building up barricades, fortifications and stuff because of a zombie pandemic, make sure u design them from a view, that even a smart human being would have his problems skirting them, because if Zack is really the dumb stereotype we've all seen in the movies, then you'll be fine and have nothing to worry about. (and by the way, also smart humans had always their problems with reinforced bunkersystem, especially when they were made of concrete with crenels at the entrances) =) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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UnUndead |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 5:33 PM EDT If flesh-eating zombies do retain advanced motor functions, then maybe three people of every thousand bitten would become zombies. Check out the "Are Rage Zombies Possible?" page. While they are actually possible, there would not be any more than a million of them in even a class four outbreak. While that number sounds huge, keep in mind that they would be spread over the entire world, so there would be approximately one zombie every fifty square kilometers. So for barricades, a wooden board over the door and several layers of plywood over the windows should be enough to keep Zs out until you can find a more stable defense or eliminate the Zs. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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UnUndead |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 5:36 PM EDT "more than a million of them"That should read "more than a few million of them" Do you find this valuable? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 5:54 PM EDT im putting rot iron on all windows and doors and re-enforcing with extra wood/steel combos and chainlink to make an electric fence if need be Do you find this valuable? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 7 2008, 5:57 PM EDT Yeah it's again the What if thingamajig, if they can mutate in the Licker-Lifeform of Resident Evil, you will be pretty screwed, if you reinforced your home only with plywood and wooden boards. Believe me I am a learned carpenter, wooden stuff is not that imperishable as you might think =) (by the way if you have seen 28 weeks later, in the first scene the rage zombies destroyed the reinforced wooden barricades of the farmhouse with ease) ^^ Do you find this valuable? |
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UnUndead |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 1:00 AM EDT First, that movie was hardly realistic, so using it as evidence does not work. If you use simple things like strong wood and proper construction techniques you can strengthen your barricades immensely. If you nail several 2x4s to your doorway, you can hardly expect it to stand up to a zombie, but if you use a large wooden plank and reinforce it with wooden beams, you can have something a battering ram would have trouble taking down. Do you find this valuable? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 1:38 AM EDT "(D)ig a moat around your perimeter wall spiking it with some Bouncing Betty like IEDs...""The M16 Anti-Personnel Mine; Often referred to as the “Bouncing Betty,” it was developed from German S-mine of WWII. It consists of a cast iron body in a thin steel sleeve; A central fuse on top of the mine is activated by applying pressure on the prongs or tension on a tripwire. Once triggered, a black powder charge is ignited, which launches the inner iron body of the mine up into the air and a second pair of pyrotechnic delays. The mine rises to a height of approximately three feet, before one or both of the pyrotechnic delays triggers the main charge of the mine which sprays metal fragments in a 360 degree radius. The mine can produce casualties out to a radius of 115 feet, and the shrapnel presents a serious hazard over 600 feet." Yes, Bouncing Betty's can be QUITE effective. Very nasty peice of hardware. However, consider, very carefully, wheterh you want to use it or not; It can be as dagerous to the defenders as the attackers. Better to go with claymores at close range. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 4:47 AM EDT "First, that movie was hardly realistic, so using it as evidence does not work."Of course you can't use it as evidence, like you can't use any of those films as evidence. It's only our stereotype thinking about how zombies will look like, we don't know nothing for sure about zack. But I do know (I learned it during my qualification as a carpenter), wood isn't that resistant against anything, especially plywood isn't. The bigger the area is you try to cover with it, the easier it will break. Of course, if you place some strong beams over your doors and windows or a dureable oak wood board reinforced by Z construction (has nothing to do with Zombies it's a term from the carpenter milieu) you will be able to survive in your home. But if you only put some lousy plywood boards of the windows you will die and in the last moments of your life you will remember my words. But on the other hand, do I really wan't to stay in my home for the rest of my entire life? No I don't want to, so I would escape to some rural area look for a nice farm build up a perimeter defense around the place so that I would easily be able to do some farming and crap like this. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 5:08 AM EDT But this is personal preference 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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UnUndead |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 2:57 PM EDT "Of course you can't use it as evidence, like you can't use any of those films as evidence. It's only our stereotype thinking about how zombies will look like, we don't know nothing for sure about zack.I discounted the possibility of large numbers of rage Zs using science, not movies. I asked a medical doctor, and she said that any human that is that violent and exhibits that kind of behavior (projectile vomiting blood, eating raw meat, running like a maniac despite their physical condition, etc.) would not be able to stay alive very long. And of course the plywood would be temporary. Think of it this way: When you first hear of the zombies, you nail plywood over the windows and reinforce the doors with some wooden beams. Then you go to Home Depot or similar store, load up on heavy construction supplies, and return home to finish barricading. The light barricades are for the short period of time it takes you to gather material for a heavier barricades. Probably chain link on the outside (to actually keep Zs out) and plywood on the inside (to protect from glass shards, lower chance of detection) would work better than just plywood. As a light, temporary barricade, of course. Do you find this valuable? |
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residentmagnum |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 3:28 PM EDT "We don't know for sure, what if these braineating bastards can run? than you will send a huge thank you to your Maker, when you have installed some nice punji-sticks around your perimeter.a vault of any kind or hardened panic room is good the only problem will be will other human beat you to it if you don't already have one built in your home As far as zombies go smart, stupid or very strong it won't be them that you really have to worry about but oter humans as they will want to get to safty too and probally try to kill anything in their way 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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residentmagnum |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 3:33 PM EDT "I discounted the possibility of large numbers of rage Zs using science, not movies. I asked a medical doctor, and she said that any human that is that violent and exhibits that kind of behavior (projectile vomiting blood, eating raw meat, running like a maniac despite their physical condition, etc.) would not be able to stay alive very long.it is possible that if the barricade is attacked that it will need tobe repaired but many zombies respond to movement so if one could remain hidden like Ann Frank then maybe no matter what the barricade is made of then yo wont have to repare it or renforce it as you find new supplies Do you find this valuable? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 4:41 PM EDT "I think if Zack will become very strong, smart or anything like that, than we probably don't need to worry about anything anymore ^^ 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 4:58 PM EDT But anyways, it's everybodies personal preference how to barricade himself if Z-Day ever occurs and my personal preference is that as soon as i finished job training (I am very lucky I've chosen a job which will be well paid ;D), immigrated to the US to marry my lovely girlfriend down in AZ, went to the Army to improve my skills and to become a naturalized citizen of the US of A, I will build me a weekend home in some rural area and I will build it that way that I can use it as stronghold to keep my girlfriends family and mine save, because in this world, there can happen more threads than only the possibility of Z-Day (like wars, terrorists and even the nuke) And, I visited today the medieval castle Veste Coburg (for everybody who doesn't now I am german and no I don't speak like Klaus in the American Dad series ;D), seeing the about three perimeter defenses of this old castle reminds me, why to build up more than one perimeter defense, because if you ever lose the control of the first perimeter you can retreat to the second one and try to turn the tide. If you got only one perimeter and the numbers are overwhelming you'll be pretty screwed. Do you find this valuable? |
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Stüggi |
RE: barricade
Jun 8 2008, 5:51 PM EDT "I discounted the possibility of large numbers of rage Zs using science, not movies. I asked a medical doctor, and she said that any human that is that violent and exhibits that kind of behavior (projectile vomiting blood, eating raw meat, running like a maniac despite their physical condition, etc.) would not be able to stay alive very long.I totally agree with that statement, that they'll not be able for long term surviving but if they get into your home, you'll be as dead as them and if they even run like a maniac, they probably could also smash things like a maniac (I really believe it has something to do with the adrenaline, and a regular human being pumped full of adrenaline is even able to do things he wouldn't be able to do without the adrenaline), then you'll still need a nice really safe place to hide and a large amount of supplies to sit it out (MRE's and such stuff) and what about this scenario you got yourself a safe place and enough supplies to survive the next 2 maybe 3 months easily, then it turns out they can survive more than 6? Oh boy, oh boy things will get really nasty. Anyways, as I already wrote before, if somebody really starts thinking about preparing himself for something like Z-Day seriously he should (I will) think about the What if's. I for example, will try to make my stronghold as safe as possible, that I won't even need to worry about the possibility of some kind of a mutated Licker or Nemesis lifeform, like them appearing in Resident Evil Apocalypse. And if your base/fortress/stronghold is as safe as this, you need not even to worry about some Ragies, you can stand on your watchtower or whatever and start to smile when these blood-drooling violence loving suckers start running into your Bouncing Betty and Shrapnel IED spiked minefield bwahaha ;D Do you find this valuable? |
