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master-theif |
Identifying our shelters
Jun 20 2008, 1:41 PM EDT
we need a sign of wether or not a building has survivors in the beginningI think that we should mark our shelters with a sheet in a window with an x on it so that we may join together, if you find a shelter like this then make sure no enemies are around and knock three times fast and one after a pause 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Rudoulph |
1. RE: Identifying our shelters
Dec 22 2009, 1:45 AM EST
Ok i agree with the sheet and x. But it needs to be red X made out of like cows blood? Only so that if the building is over run the zombies will rip apart the sheet so there is no confusion of whether the building is safe.I like the three times fast thing. I really do. But i think we should also have a scrape with something after the the final knock (the one after the long pause) Keep discussing. Why am i the only other one from colorado who cares? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MickeyTatem |
2. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 14 2010, 12:20 AM EST
"Ok i agree with the sheet and x. But it needs to be red X made out of like cows blood? Only so that if the building is over run the zombies will rip apart the sheet so there is no confusion of whether the building is safe."the cows blood thing is a good idea, but we wont know if it will work or not til the day comes. But in case z's aren't attracted to cow blood. what about a signal fire? btw, i too am from CO, so don't worry about being the only one who cares. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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Rudoulph |
3. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 14 2010, 1:24 AM EST
"the cows blood thing is a good idea, but we wont know if it will work or not til the day comes. But in case z's aren't attracted to cow blood. what about a signal fire? "I like the signal fire. Maybe one that can release a colored smoke and we restock it with whatever chem or element that is that creates the color every 12 hours, that way the fire will die off or release a different smoke if the building is overrun. Do you find this valuable? |
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MickeyTatem |
4. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 14 2010, 2:04 AM EST
hmm.. i know that different plastics can burn different colors, but i dont kno if there is anything that creates a different variation in the color of the smoke.
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AnimateBlade |
5. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 14 2010, 6:43 AM EST
I sure as heck wont be doing this. It's a "hey raiders, there's people here, come rob and kill us".I'll be watching, not broadcasting. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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PedroAsani |
6. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 14 2010, 10:38 AM EST
As with all signal systems, you need something that already has widespread recognition and understanding in order for it to convey the information you want to correctly.A sheet with a red X might be taken to mean "Infected Here" or "Already Looted" The reason that the Maritime flags were "borrowed" and used on the Signals page is because they already have an international agreed meaning. Anyone with a naval background, or simply a survival manual that includes the flags, will be able to work out the new meanings, since they differ only slightly from the originals. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Z-Day+Survivor+Signals+System D is still "Keep Clear". G and H replace pilot with local guide. (A pilot is used to bring a ship into port. They know the area extemely well, hence the local guide meaning.) We have members come along and suggest systems all the time, saying things like "A blue cross means the building is safe, and a red traingle means there are infected inside." Well you can have all the Lucky Charms symbols you want, but they are useless if you are the only one who knows their meaning. Do you find this valuable? |
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Rudoulph |
7. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 15 2010, 12:21 AM EST
That's true. But how and where are we supposed to get the naval flags? And who knows all of the naval signals? I don't think this is the best solution either. Anyone have any ideas about international symbols that everyone knows that we can use? Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
8. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 15 2010, 10:53 AM EST
"That's true. But how and where are we supposed to get the naval flags? And who knows all of the naval signals? I don't think this is the best solution either.Getting them would have to be something done ahead of time, or a scavenging run. The third option is to make them. As for who knows the naval signals, that would be: anyone in the navy, coast guard, some parts of other military branches; anyone with a general survival handbook that includes morse code, semaphore and naval flags; Anyone who reads the linked page above. Do you find this valuable? |
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JezuzKrist |
9. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 15 2010, 11:08 AM EST
I got an idea!why don't we hang a sheet in the window that says "safe" and do everyone a favor, when the zed is eating your leg, pull the sheet down with your last breath. just throwing that out there Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
10. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 15 2010, 5:55 PM EST
"I got an idea!You have kind of answered your own question. What if the signal says "Safe" but it really isn't? Would you trust it? But if you read the link, you will see that it includes a system for timestamping the signal. That way you can tell if the Safe signal is old, and therefore unreliable. Without timestamping the signal, there is no point to it, because then it is untrustworthy. Do you find this valuable? |
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Themiddleodnowhere |
11. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 15 2010, 7:36 PM EST
"Getting them would have to be something done ahead of time, or a scavenging run. The third option is to make them.you can also just google them cut/paste, resize, print, laminate, and stick on a pole, repeat for all flags Do you find this valuable? |
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Rudoulph |
12. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jan 16 2010, 2:35 AM EST
"You have kind of answered your own question. What if the signal says "Safe" but it really isn't? Would you trust it?Ok i really like this. Timestamp all signals! Generally update them once a day. That would work great. If not once a day maybe once every two days. That way we can definitely see if it is safe or not. Simply by looking at the date. Do you find this valuable? |
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YoruShadou |
13. RE: Identifying our shelters
May 13 2010, 5:32 PM EDT
What has been thought of is some of the other states is that you place a I I on the door of the location saying ( cleaned out nothing here ) paint of any kind or color. and a O on the door that says your here and in need of help also in any color. and a X in any color saying Infected do not enter. as for safe houses most of them are saying the same thing with them " Don't say that this is a safe house directly " the indirect way is a marking of some type that says to those that know this is a safe house for the night. leaving something inside saying if you stay here then you will be found for those that might wonder in. cutting down on HQ locations being found by raiders as easy and helping cut down on contamination of just picking them up.
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DeltaBravo1294 |
14. RE: Identifying our shelters
May 13 2010, 5:34 PM EDT
"What has been thought of is some of the other states is that you place a I I on the door of the location saying ( cleaned out nothing here ) paint of any kind or color. and a O on the door that says your here and in need of help also in any color. and a X in any color saying Infected do not enter. as for safe houses most of them are saying the same thing with them " Don't say that this is a safe house directly " the indirect way is a marking of some type that says to those that know this is a safe house for the night. leaving something inside saying if you stay here then you will be found for those that might wonder in. cutting down on HQ locations being found by raiders as easy and helping cut down on contamination of just picking them up. "Necro-post. Do you find this valuable? |
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DarinM.Annear |
15. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jun 13 2010, 3:42 AM EDT
I agree with your idea of marking our shelters. Why don't we use very basic symbols? Smiley good, skull bad. I think it works. Any logical knocking pattern will work to tell people inside your not infected.
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Oakspar77777 |
16. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jun 20 2010, 9:19 AM EDT
Words = good symbols = bad Now, using specialized symbols in your area for your group that your group understands makes sense. If you are trying to attract, detract, or inform outsiders, however, you should use writing. Phrases like "safe zone," "food for ammo," "town secured - looters will be shot," "even if you can't read this, our snipers can" can be spray painted quickly and clearly on roads, cars, buildings, sign boards, etc. Neon colors are the best choices (Yellow, Green, and Pink). They will be the most visible at night and also stick out the most from pre-apoc writing. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
17. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jun 20 2010, 9:54 AM EDT
Don't knock symbols. Simple symbols can be recognised from a greater distance than letters of the same height.And look at the colours used by the flag system. Red, Blue, Yellow, White and Black. Strong, simple colours. Neon isn't strong over a distance. I agree that up close, using words is preferable. But the majority of the time, people will be far, far apart. Strangers will not want to risk getting close to other groups. Distance communication will be vital. Do you find this valuable? |
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Ash_of_Lee |
18. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jun 22 2010, 12:08 PM EDT
I don't know much about chemicals or if there is even one that would be readily available (if it exists at all!) or at least easy to mix. But what if there was a chemical that people could write their symbols or messages with on the sheets that would be applied in one color (red for example) and then oxodize and turn another color (blue for example) in x many days. That would be cool if there is something like that. The people writing the signs could update it every day or so and passerbys would know "The sign is red, it's pretty new" or "Hey, let's not go there...that sign is blue...it must be old".If there is any chemical like this or nearly like this, it would be great to use along with the dating and symbol systems so survivors would have several things to take into consideration. If they know nothing about the naval symbols, they could look at the dating system. If they don't know that, they may look at the color of the sheet. Should, godforbid, the survivors be killed, the sheet sign would naturally change itself to an unsafe area color and would prevent others from walking into a trap they thought was a relatively newly advertised safe haven. Do you find this valuable? |
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Quentin719 |
19. RE: Identifying our shelters
Jul 7 2010, 4:48 AM EDT
I'm Just Going To Fly A NRRM Flag (Trust Me, You will Know It when You See It) NRRM is the Survival Group I Started.
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