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thewhitezombie666
thewhitezombie666
plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 12:48 AM EDT
what if you coted a whole biulding with that Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 2:25 AM EDT
First of all, it's C-4.
Second of all, wihtou a detonator, not much. You could try lighting it, and I suppose the building would catch fire, but not expode. With a detnator- Well you'd feel the sesimic event several miles away.
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thewhitezombie666
thewhitezombie666
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 2:33 AM EDT
holy crap that would be freackin awsome Do you find this valuable?    
~Jack~
~Jack~
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 10:03 AM EDT
Just stick a 9 volt battery into the C4 and BOOM!

C4 detonates by electric current. It can stand up to bullets, fire, stuff of the like and not explode, but is still easy to detonate. :)

The person who invented it discovered that and went blind when he accidentally set it off.
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thewhitezombie666
thewhitezombie666
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 4:30 PM EDT
that sucks for the guy! Do you find this valuable?    
~Jack~
~Jack~
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 4:33 PM EDT
don't worry. he got rich... I think... Do you find this valuable?    
ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 4:34 PM EDT
They used c-4 to heat their meals in the Korean war when they had nothing else. C-4 burns slow and quite hot from what I understand, if you light it that is. Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 8:35 PM EDT
"holy crap that would be freackin awsome"
I have always been told it requires a proper detonator, not ‘just’ electricity to set off C-4. ¿Could someone clarify this issue?
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Survivor_Gill
Survivor_Gill
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 8 2008, 10:04 PM EDT
"I have always been told it requires a proper detonator, not ‘just’ electricity to set off C-4. ¿Could someone clarify this issue?"
"C-4 is incredibly stable, and can only be detonated by combined extreme heat and pressure or an electric jolt."
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ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 9 2008, 2:30 AM EDT
They use blasting caps, same ones used for TNT. Electrically fired small explosive that sets off the C-4. A friend of the family has a Blasting business. Blows shit up for a living. Works on everything from mountain removal to stump removal. Neat guy, has a twitch though. Do you find this valuable?    
~Jack~
~Jack~
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 9 2008, 1:20 PM EDT
"I have always been told it requires a proper detonator, not ‘just’ electricity to set off C-4. ¿Could someone clarify this issue?"
Well, maybe the newer versions... I never did take well to chemistry...

Anyhow, C4 was discovered by a person who was trying to perfect electrical transmissions through wires. He wanted to get the electricity to flow 100% in one direction (and be unable to go the other way), and knew certain kinds of materials have the property he wanted to exploit.

He went and invented the earliest version of C4, unaware of it's potentially explosive properties, and tested it out, wanting to see if it worked. He ran an electric current (from an outlet or something) through it, and BOOM! he went blind.

Thing is, they have a bunch of safety precautions to prevent that from happening. They used to have aluminum wrapping to prevent electricity from getting into the explosive itself (like a Faraday cage), so it won't detonate by accident, and a bunch more stuff.

Overall, if all the safety precautions are in place, it might as well be detonated by only using the proper kind of detonator.

Correct me if I am wrong...
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 9 2008, 2:09 PM EDT
Ok, Jack, it sounds like you’re referring to an older material; I know there was Composition 3 (C3) in at least the US’s inventory (I think it’s all out now, replaced by Composition 4/C4), but perhaps there is an even OLDER material, Composition 1, that you are referencing. That would certainly explain why I hadn’t heard that story and to my confusion on the subject… Do you find this valuable?    
~Jack~
~Jack~
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 9 2008, 2:13 PM EDT
... That could be the case...

But I do know one thing. The person I was talking about was the grandfather of all plastic explosives. and C4 is a plastic explosive. :P

It all came from the same place...
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nightcreeper78
nightcreeper78
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 10 2008, 3:12 PM EDT
c-4 explosive has a hexamine base which can be used as a fuel,unless you try to stomp out the flame...like all explosives it will simply burn...if it becomes compressed or confined,in which case it oxidizes or starts to break itself down to extract locked molecules of oxygen,this usually happens in a matter of milliseconds leading to a reaction which we call an explosion...I have seen c-4 ignited with a single shot.I'm not sure if it was a regular round,incediary, or a tracer...but it burned for several minutes and then it swelled up like a dead dog in the hot sun and signed off with one hell of a concusion...i'm pretty sure for an efficient detonation one would have to use at least one #8 blasting cap...out of all the explosives out there it's one of the safest to handle and the toughest at standing up to the elements. Do you find this valuable?    
dominickmagas
dominickmagas
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 10 2008, 4:02 PM EDT
"Thing is, they have a bunch of safety precautions to prevent that from happening. They used to have aluminum wrapping to prevent electricity from getting into the explosive itself (like a Faraday cage), so it won't detonate by accident, and a bunch more stuff.

Correct me if I am wrong..."
didn't they have aluminum foil in claymores to seperate the metal shot from the potentially oxidizing effects of the c4, not to protect it from electricity?
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~Jack~
~Jack~
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 10 2008, 6:14 PM EDT
"didn't they have aluminum foil in claymores to seperate the metal shot from the potentially oxidizing effects of the c4, not to protect it from electricity?"
Claymores are anti-personnel mines... naturally the people who make them want it to go off properly. Otherwise they would be out of the job.

Seriously, though. C4 is a general purpose explosive. I am talking about packaging. You don't want to accidentally destroy two city blocks when the warehouse full of C4 detonates by accident from a short circuit in the electrical system. you need to make sure the explosives used don't explode until you are READY.
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 10 2008, 8:36 PM EDT
"didn't they have aluminum foil in claymores to seperate the metal shot from the potentially oxidizing effects of the c4, not to protect it from electricity?"
They used to. Now they use some sort of plastic. And you’re thinking of copper, not that it really matters.
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dominickmagas
dominickmagas
RE: plat dogh bomb
Aug 11 2008, 1:12 AM EDT
oh, ok thanks, i don't really know, i just read it somewhere Do you find this valuable?    

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