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tacticalplanner |
Solider
Aug 11 2008, 6:49 PM EDT
Okay, for those who think anyone can be a solider, think about this:Only 3% of frontline soliders in world war 2 actually shot to kill. The rest purposefully missed the target. This means that in world war z, not everyone will be cut out to engage zees and kill them. If they won't kill or injure while shooting, they can't be a solider and they are just wasting the group's resources. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Zaitch |
1. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 6:59 PM EDT
Where is that statistic from, I doubt the validity of it. I believe all people (or maybe it's just me) have a killer instinct, most just require an extreme situation to bring it out. If it is an act of self preservation I believe everyone will act the same as me. Or maybe most people are more emotional and compassionate than myself, I am quite an emotionally detatched person except for intimate relationships, and some might say I don't really have a conscience.
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geenius3ab |
2. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 7:03 PM EDT
"Okay, for those who think anyone can be a solider, think about this:I think that there will people like that..Who think that there is an possibility for an ncure and think that everything will be ok without him/her having to kill someone...People like that think that, everything will be O.K (They think that so that they wouldn't go crazy.)...You HAVE to leave people like that behind when you see someone like that....And people who won't shoot zed-s when they have guns are fools...And people like that will possibly die in the beginning of the outbreak....But why did the 97% miss the target??...Cause if they missed than they would possibly die (I don't think that's true, that the 95% missed..)....Maybe the people who miss would be 1%-3% than it would be understandable.. Do you find this valuable? |
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tacticalplanner |
3. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 7:22 PM EDT
did you overlook the purposefully missed?
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Zaitch |
4. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 7:22 PM EDT
That seems more likely, 3% of soldiers were pacifist cowards & intentionally missed, but that is still a big percentage in my opinion.
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tacticalplanner |
5. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 7:47 PM EDT
See what i mean. You got 10 soliders, stacistics say 3 of thwm won't kill anything unless they are about to be killed by it.
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Kaikelx |
7. RE: Solider
Aug 11 2008, 10:10 PM EDT
Do you mean 3 out of ten won't shoot, or 3 out of ten WILL shoot. If only 3 out of ten would shoot, then the machine gunners had a LOT of lucky shots in Normandy...
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crowleyj |
8. RE: Solider
Aug 12 2008, 12:16 AM EDT
I remember seeing something about those stats. I also remeber that the military started correcting the prob by using human silouet type targets. The dehumanizeation of the enemy even more so then before. As a consequence target hits went up by Vietnam.
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tacticalplanner |
9. RE: Solider
Aug 12 2008, 12:02 PM EDT
13th, the body is still human, even if it's a zombie. Some people might not be able to handle killing smething human or near-human. That's all i'm trying to say. I know i won't be cut ut to kill anything unlss it's about to kill me. Which is the reason i want to be a defese engineer.
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HeavenlySword |
10. RE: Solider
Aug 12 2008, 3:48 PM EDT
Many people will not be able to accurately hit another target that resembles a human. Thats ok.My group, when mobile, will not consist totally of z-killers. Although everyone will be armed, some of us will advance first, and the others will not be expected to kill Do you find this valuable? |
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~Jack~ |
11. RE: Solider
Aug 12 2008, 6:38 PM EDT
Only 3% of the human population in World War Z actually managed to survive...I don't think any of us would actually have a problem... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
SuperSoldierRCP |
12. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 2:58 AM EST
when its life or death u or them u will always and foremost SAVE YOURSELF..you kill or be killed instencts kick in
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DirttyTeeth |
13. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 3:15 AM EST
"Only 3% of the human population in World War Z actually managed to survive...That was a story of fiction, dont base real life on it! Do you find this valuable? |
Carnack |
14. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 3:19 AM EST
"did you overlook the purposefully missed?"Dude I seriously doubt those stats. WW2 had a lot of wide-area combat so if they purposely there would have been a lot less dead Germans and Americans. Do you find this valuable? |
Moptophaha |
15. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 3:25 AM EST
Do you remember the first time you fired a rifle? I sure do, and rifles were more inaccurate back then.I think some objective soldier saw a bunch of people missing their targets, and made up that statistic. But even without fantasy, I can easily imagine a squadron of 20-year-olds shitting themselves trying to aim a rifle while bullets whiz past their heads, killing their friends and peppering the mud that runs up to their knees, I can imagine them not being as accurate as optimal statistics would otherwise believe. In terms of the actual topic of this thread, I think that having soldiers at all is a terrible idea. If you seek out zombies, you will be infected. It's that simple. Why engage them if you can run and hide perfectly safely, and await the end of the outbreak. If you know without a doubt that the outbreak will never end without curative measures, then I guess you'd need to rethink things, but I doubt the wisdom in preparing such a title. Do you find this valuable? |
AgEnT_GrEEn |
16. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 3:44 AM EST
The problem is....what if a cure can't be found? They aren't gonna disappear.But I also don't believe in eradicating the Zombies with footsoldiers, either. Mass-extermination techniques, like traps, minefields, bombing and other methods could save many lives. Do you find this valuable? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
17. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 3:54 AM EST
sad thing is once this happens, past history will mean nothing. until history is not longer important, until time stops. Man kind shall forever look over are sholder and say is he ok. What once was is gone and nothing shall be the same. even after the zeds are 100% wiped off the face of the earth whos to say it cant happen again, Footsoldiers are the future naval combat will srink, air attack are gone. the only thing anyone now and for the next thousand year will say bro i hope your a good shot mass-extermiation is a joke dude. if u can find the cure ill secure nukes to deviler the loads, planes to spary cities, and men to inject zeds. but theres only 2 ways to get rid of them shoot them in the head or find a cure. mines are ineffect, traps not unless its in the head, and bombing distroying res u might need. i hate to sound like a dictator but freedom since the dawn of history has had to be earned and no short cut will get u there faster ur going to have to admin you will lose just as many lifes as u can save.......... ( sorry to be a total downer )
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DirttyTeeth |
18. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 4:00 AM EST
"sad thing is once this happens, past history will mean nothing. until history is not longer important, until time stops. Man kind shall forever look over are sholder and say is he ok. What once was is gone and nothing shall be the same. even after the zeds are 100% wiped off the face of the earth whos to say it cant happen again, Footsoldiers are the future naval combat will srink, air attack are gone. the only thing anyone now and for the next thousand year will say bro i hope your a good shot mass-extermiation is a joke dude. if u can find the cure ill secure nukes to deviler the loads, planes to spary cities, and men to inject zeds. but theres only 2 ways to get rid of them shoot them in the head or find a cure. mines are ineffect, traps not unless its in the head, and bombing distroying res u might need. i hate to sound like a dictator but freedom since the dawn of history has had to be earned and no short cut will get u there faster ur going to have to admin you will lose just as many lifes as u can save.......... ( sorry to be a total downer )"I dont think there will ever be a cure only a vaccination, you cant bring dead back to life the zombies are dead cant cure death. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
19. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 4:07 AM EST
they said a man would never walk on the moon, look at are advancements in cancer... even understamate the human mind.
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DirttyTeeth |
20. RE: Solider
Feb 10 2009, 4:18 AM EST
"they said a man would never walk on the moon, look at are advancements in cancer... even understamate the human mind. "Dude the zombies are rotting, dead and i no like em, there could never be a cure only a vaccination ^^ Do you find this valuable? |
