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byates
byates
Hotwiring a car
Aug 16 2008, 1:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 1:36 AM EDT
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Hot_Wire_Your_Car
should work sometimes, but not on every car, and not on late model ones.
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SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
1. Tough one byates
Aug 16 2008, 1:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 1:14 PM EDT
Good topic, will come into use come Unkle Zed.

With all the various emission laws and rules, older rides have been steadily send to scrappers and crushers.
Finding an older rider sans security and electronic anti-theft devices, even here in the rural is becoming hard to do.

Hotwiring, we may be able to do, however breaking that damned locking steering, locks on transmissions, and even the e.locks on total systems, prevent the cars and trucks we might obtain from easy use.

Wish I had a happier reply, but sans coded keys, we're hosed for using them rapidly as situations blow up around us.

Anything post '96 will most likely have a combination of steering locks, secured ignitions, and ABS security. All leading up to a no-go for a rapid use for anti-Zed or escape working.

Cities may provide opportunity for fleet trucks and cars stored in their company lockups. Would help with time and getting things loaded and keys found. May also have fuel and assorted other necessities there for the Privateer and group to haul with.

Large trucks? Unless you or Teamie is used to air brakes, long loads, and driving in the panic, be less appealing in the Sudden Emergency scenario.

This may be a good time to try and meet up with someone who makes his or her living boosting cars. Learning nuances of the Modern Hotwire would be a good thing to have in the Team.

*Out*

*EOM*
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byates
byates
2. RE: Tough one byates
Aug 16 2008, 8:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 8:35 PM EDT
Around here there are quite a few older vehicle, rural South. Your area might be different, I think you mentioned living in the Peoples Republic of OreGone? And I did say it wouldn't work on late model vehicles.

Large trucks, half the people I know are qualified to drive tractor trailer rigs, and there are a lot of the older models of those around here too. Farmers tend to keep their stuff till it is truly worn out, at least the local ones do, your mileage might vary.
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SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
3. We are in Eastern side, out in desert farmland.
Aug 16 2008, 10:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 10:03 PM EDT
"Around here there are quite a few older vehicle, rural South. Your area might be different, I think you mentioned living in the Peoples Republic of OreGone? And I did say it wouldn't work on late model vehicles.

Large trucks, half the people I know are qualified to drive tractor trailer rigs, and there are a lot of the older models of those around here too. Farmers tend to keep their stuff till it is truly worn out, at least the local ones do, your mileage might vary."
People's Republic is Westside, Portland, Salem, Eugene, Coastal areas. We are 200 miles east of Portland on Columbia.

Privateering into Cities, finding and shipping survivors, removing materials, scrounging food stocks requires a growing number of Class 6-7-8 trucks. Hopefully we find those sans electronic starting systems, those able to be pull/push/bump started.

Out here in the Rural, Unkle Zed's disease did not hit us as hard as the more populated areas, leaving us with a multitude of talented folks including experienced agri-business farmers, their hired help, and those who know what and where to do with food crops grown.

Our security needs are enhanced with every trip to City/populated areas where the stocks of POL are found and scored, vehicles, preferable diesel are taken.

We try to stick with the Class 6-7 ten wheelers, as they are more easy to train new drivers, and tend not to have the more modern enhanced electronic security devices.

Quite often we'll find that a crowbar and some wires under dash of an oil burning truck will allow us to unlock steering and anti-theft devices.

Now that Zed is a minor annoyance, rather than an overwhelming problem, we can take time and enter those Hot Zones and mine for the various product and vehicles we need.

If there is any surplus of oil burning tractors and/or earth moving equipment, trade between groups can be facilitated.

POL stocks have been augmented by using bodies of the Q and Zeds for biodiesel. messy, but functional...

*Out*

*EOM*
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byates
byates
4. RE: We are in Eastern side, out in desert farmland.
Aug 16 2008, 11:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 16 2008, 11:59 PM EDT
"POL stocks have been augmented by using bodies of the Q and Zeds for biodiesel. messy, but functional...
"
ATF makes good diesel fuel also. Also, try to find or retro-fit vehicles with air starters, less likely to be left in the lurch by a bad battery, long term. Military multi-fuel engines are nice also, but check that they are still multi-fuel, some have been adjusted for diesel only, simple pump adjustment.
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HellfireRe
HellfireRe
5. RE: Hotwiring a car
Aug 8 2009, 8:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2009, 8:35 AM EDT
For info to everyone, I saw an old car, that could be started by just sticking a knife to the lock and turning. Piece of a cake. I always trusted older cars. They're easier to modify and repair. Also they're easier to find these days at junkyards and repair shops. Do you find this valuable?    

ak_fred
6. RE: Tough one byates
Aug 8 2009, 12:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2009, 12:50 PM EDT
"Good topic, will come into use come Unkle Zed.

With all the various emission laws and rules, older rides have been steadily send to scrappers and crushers.
Finding an older rider sans security and electronic anti-theft devices, even here in the rural is becoming hard to do.

Hotwiring, we may be able to do, however breaking that damned locking steering, locks on transmissions, and even the e.locks on total systems, prevent the cars and trucks we might obtain from easy use.

Wish I had a happier reply, but sans coded keys, we're hosed for using them rapidly as situations blow up around us.

Anything post '96 will most likely have a combination of steering locks, secured ignitions, and ABS security. All leading up to a no-go for a rapid use for anti-Zed or escape working.

Cities may provide opportunity for fleet trucks and cars stored in their company lockups. Would help with time and getting things loaded and keys found. May also have fuel and assorted other necessities there for the Privateer and group to haul with.

Large trucks? Unless you or Teamie is used to air brakes, long loads, and driving in the panic, be less appealing in the Sudden Emergency scenario.

This may be a good time to try and meet up with someone who makes his or her living boosting cars. Learning nuances of the Modern Hotwire would be a good thing to have in the Team.

*Out*

*EOM*"
Good post... I'm a car guy myself, "hotwiring" is somewhat a thing of the past.

You give a very realistic view of the anti-theft sytems in place today as well as well as the
older cars that aren't really on the road as much because they have simply been crushed.

Youll stil have to "crack" the column. and sometimes ignition cylinders dont come out unless
a key is in it to begin with.

I've been able to break the steering lock by simply laying down and using my legs to break it..
or just stand on the steering wheel, (ah you'll figgure it out) however the lock kinda catches and
steering is less than smooth..

I havent seen too much of the resistor type keys latey.. It's a passing fancy for GM.

Lastly the scredriver trick may work.. mainly this exploits a weakness in toyota car ignitions.
I do believe it was released as a TSB so for the most part if they never had it repaired at the
dealership, it might be easy to manipulate with the screwdriver.

Yeah.. I'm not a fan of that link.. its not likely to help..

Anywho.. why cant we just look for keys?.. ALOT of cars nowadays
have clicker remotes.. I'l just trigger the panic alarm..and find the car
if its in range.
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Finnishsurvivor
7. RE: Hotwiring a car
Aug 9 2009, 3:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 9 2009, 3:37 PM EDT
"http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Hot_Wire_Your_Car
should work sometimes, but not on every car, and not on late model ones."
Quick tutorial, try to find 2 red wires near the car key hole (or matching colors)
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HellfireRe
HellfireRe
8. RE: Tough one byates
Aug 10 2009, 6:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 10 2009, 6:43 AM EDT
"Good post... I'm a car guy myself, "hotwiring" is somewhat a thing of the past.

You give a very realistic view of the anti-theft sytems in place today as well as well as the
older cars that aren't really on the road as much because they have simply been crushed.

Youll stil have to "crack" the column. and sometimes ignition cylinders dont come out unless
a key is in it to begin with.

I've been able to break the steering lock by simply laying down and using my legs to break it..
or just stand on the steering wheel, (ah you'll figgure it out) however the lock kinda catches and
steering is less than smooth..

I havent seen too much of the resistor type keys latey.. It's a passing fancy for GM.

Lastly the scredriver trick may work.. mainly this exploits a weakness in toyota car ignitions.
I do believe it was released as a TSB so for the most part if they never had it repaired at the
dealership, it might be easy to manipulate with the screwdriver.

Yeah.. I'm not a fan of that link.. its not likely to help..

Anywho.. why cant we just look for keys?.. ALOT of cars nowadays
have clicker remotes.. I'l just trigger the panic alarm..and find the car
if its in range.
"
Also the're was an error at early Renault clickers: You could unlock ANY samw model with you'r clicker. Though I think they all were returned but if you could find one and disable the model chip.....
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StevenBalsamo
9. RE: Hotwiring a car
Mar 17 2010, 10:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2010, 10:57 PM EDT
I have had good luck just using a similar key. I have been able to start more than a few friends cars with keys to another vehicle. Usually some jiggling is required, and it doesn't always work. It seems to work the best on Fords, and the older the car, the better. The more miles on the car also mean that the tumblers are more likely to be worn and easier to pursuade. Do you find this valuable?    
VagabondVance
VagabondVance
10. RE: Hotwiring a car
Mar 18 2010, 2:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 2:06 PM EDT
Necropost x2?
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