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dominickmagas
dominickmagas
Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 18 2008, 12:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2008, 12:02 AM EDT
I know that in a lot of books, movies, etc, zombies freeze up when they are in the snow, freezing them solid and unmooving. When it gets warm, they thaw. What do you guys think of that? 11  out of 15 found this valuable. Do you?    
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SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
1. MB says "yes" in WW-Z
Aug 18 2008, 1:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2008, 1:28 AM EDT
"I know that in a lot of books, movies, etc, zombies freeze up when they are in the snow, freezing them solid and unmooving. When it gets warm, they thaw. What do you guys think of that?"
Master speaks, senario he sets listens...

I would think that even infected un-human bodies would be terribly effected by bitter colds and winds.

Max says that in Northern climes and the winter months, they freeze.

Since they are known to survive in and underwater, having the infected Unkle Zed "come back to shamble" in spring time would be something imaginable.

Prepare for the spring breakup and Shambling.

*Out*

*EOM*
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~Jack~
2. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 18 2008, 9:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2008, 9:57 AM EDT
It really depends on the kind of zombie.

Some can and some cannot...

I would like to think they can freeze, because the human body can freeze too given enough time. Zombies being undead, they would usually only be as warm as the area around them... so... yeah, they can freeze.

The real question is: "Can they come back from frozen alive?"

That would all depend on your sources and the kind of zombie you are specifically referring to.
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
3. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 18 2008, 2:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2008, 2:07 PM EDT
Personally, I know it’s a big fat load of shit.
Professionally, I accept the possibility that it COULD be true, and therefore plan for the probability that it IS true.
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The_Last_Skater
The_Last_Skater
4. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 19 2008, 1:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2008, 1:44 AM EDT
I think if nothing else it would slow them down much, and if it did disable them or something like that it would be a great defense XD, a defense you dont have to reload and i dont know about you guys but i would feel safer with zombies frozen.. lol =p 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

zombieman98
5. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 19 2008, 3:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2008, 3:41 AM EDT
Well it really depends on HOW cold of a climate you live in. If it's an extreme cold then yes, they could freeze. But if you live in chilly temperature where the water doesn't freeze, or just barely freezes, it may very well end up prolonging their decomposition time. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

~Jack~
6. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 19 2008, 8:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2008, 8:47 AM EDT
Come winter in New England, every zombie north of Virginia will freeze. :D 8  out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?    

tacticalplanner
7. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 19 2008, 12:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2008, 12:29 PM EDT
yeah, but need i mention frostbite? When the water in a cell freezes, it expandes and destroyes the cell membrane (and the cell). Now, that may not seem important, but the zees still uses the nerve cells, right? If the freeze is bad enough, the zombie will be permanently neutralized (not dead, just disabled). That's my reasoning. I live in CT, and it gets pretty cold up here. So i don't think that a zee will be getting back up after a preety cold freeze (espescially if the outbreak occurs in summer). 6  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    

~Jack~
8. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 19 2008, 3:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2008, 3:03 PM EDT
If the dead can walk, I am pretty sure they would be able to survive a little chill.

It really depends on what kind of zombie you are talking about.
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richboy33lb
richboy33lb
9. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 24 2008, 8:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 8:35 AM EDT
Since zombies have the mental capacity of a flounder or an insect, they will not wear extra layers or hunker down during the winter. They will more than likely freeze over, during which time you should try to find and kill every single one. 5  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
10. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Aug 24 2008, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 6:27 PM EDT
"Since zombies have the mental capacity of a flounder or an insect, they will not wear extra layers or hunker down during the winter. They will more than likely freeze over, during which time you should try to find and kill every single one."
I don't think they will...But I'm following Andy's approach to the subject.

In accordance,

I'll be riding out with a couple Survivors from the Island Garrison on Lake Huron on snowmobile when the lake's frozen over for the Winter...Only if we HAVE to though...Like if a 100 zeds were frozen and scattered in a certain area on the lake, then we'd ride out and take care of their frozen carcasses accordingly while having a watch out for anybody/thing else that wants our brains/bullets.
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LegendRN
LegendRN
11. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Sep 4 2008, 6:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 4 2008, 6:26 PM EDT
Yeah, they'll freeze. eventually the mucles and nerves will be destroyed even if they could come back to life after thawed.
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AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
12. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Sep 4 2008, 9:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 4 2008, 9:12 PM EDT
"Yeah, they'll freeze. eventually the mucles and nerves will be destroyed even if they could come back to life after thawed.
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Yeah, the muscles would be too far damaged for the zed to ever use them again since they'd be overly bloated and freezerburnt....Sorta like with cyrogenics on people...It doesn't work unless you inject cold fluid into the veins; the skin and muscles cannot be frozen or they will be damaged...Just like those steaks in the freezer I had to throw out a couple days ago...Ewwies. :P

if this is the case, then everyone should go somewhere cold for the winter....Somewhere where you can die from the cold if you're exposed for too long.
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HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
13. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Sep 4 2008, 9:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 4 2008, 9:53 PM EDT
"Yeah, the muscles would be too far damaged for the zed to ever use them again since they'd be overly bloated and freezerburnt....Sorta like with cyrogenics on people...It doesn't work unless you inject cold fluid into the veins; the skin and muscles cannot be frozen or they will be damaged...Just like those steaks in the freezer I had to throw out a couple days ago...Ewwies. :P

if this is the case, then everyone should go somewhere cold for the winter....Somewhere where you can die from the cold if you're exposed for too long."
Somewhere where I can salvage stuff in the winter w/o zeds bothering me
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AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
14. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Sep 4 2008, 10:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 4 2008, 10:03 PM EDT
"Somewhere where I can salvage stuff in the winter w/o zeds bothering me"
Yep, make it hard on them but easy on you...No need to go to the polar icecaps, that's asking for death and there's nothing there, but the Northern areas of the U.S. and Canada that get sufficient cold temperatures and decent snowfall are good areas to go.
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AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
15. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Sep 4 2008, 10:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 4 2008, 10:03 PM EDT
"Yep, make it hard on them but easy on you...No need to go to the polar icecaps, that's asking for death and there's nothing there, but the Northern areas of the U.S. and Canada that get sufficient cold temperatures and decent snowfall are good areas to go."
That is, if you're tough enough and prepared enough for it.
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Survivor_Gill
Survivor_Gill
16. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Oct 25 2008, 1:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 1:06 PM EDT
Technically yes.

When human tissue freezes solid, the cell structures rupture due to the crystallization of water. Any zombie exposed to sub-zero temperatures for an significant period (as little as several hours) would die.

Once the brain falls below that critical point, it's game over.

I mean, I don't how it would be unreasonable to think that a massive amount of an infected population would be wiped out for a period of time in temperature climates. One season and many would be killed.

Of course, this brings huge issues as well. Come spring, you'll have a lot of thawing, rotting, festering corpses everywhere, polluting a lot of urban space. Of course, there will be a good percentage of zeds who escape sub zero temperatures by taking refuge in interiors and in underground infrastructure. Also, simple population diffusion will cause the zombies living in warmer climates to naturally migrate to areas of less density.

Either way, this will give survivors in such climates good opportunities to preform many tasks, otherwise thwarted by zombies. The entire winter season, although coming with it's own vast difficulties would provide some refuge from the undead threat.

There would also be a short period in the early spring where the threat is decreased.

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alicestar
alicestar
17. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Oct 25 2008, 1:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 1:19 PM EDT
maybe, maybe not. do you have a backup plan if they don't freeze?
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Acolyte14
Acolyte14
18. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Oct 25 2008, 1:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 1:53 PM EDT
If nothing else they may be slowed. Either from the cold on muscles and what not, and the snow/ice itself. Their not going to be throwing on snowshoes, or driving around on snowmobiles.

IF (big "IF") they do freeze solid in the winter, I plan on spending the winter months finding and destroying as many as possible. Haven't quite figured out a good method of finding the ones buried under large snowdrifts (besides the techniques used to find avalanche victims). Spend the winter driving around on either a snowmobile (I have 3) or find a SnowCat and use that as my winter vehicle. (Both with enlarged gas tanks)

If they don't freeze it'll just be business as usual. Stay alive, kill zombies, maybe work towards relocating to a more desolate area.

Small farm towns/compounds will probably have a lower Z-population. With any luck (and proper know-how) eliminate the immediate threat and take or make do with what you can scrounge. Maybe seek out a group of survivors, and stay there for the winter (mayber longer) exchanging your skills for food & shelter (but this is really just more of basic winter survival)
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Andering_J_REDDSON
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19. RE: Do zombies freeze in the snow or cold climates?
Oct 25 2008, 4:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 4:12 PM EDT
"Haven't quite figured out a good method of finding the ones buried under large snowdrifts (besides the techniques used to find avalanche victims)."
Ground penetrating radar. If the radar kills them, then no big deal, you didn’t WANT them to survive anyways… If it doesn’t kill them, you still can with whatever tools happen to fill the bill (and, in this case, you may not even need expendable weaps, ie guns).
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