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KR555
KR555
Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 24 2008, 3:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 3:16 PM EDT
Im still debating which im gonna get?
"machete" good for slicing but could bend and is not made for stabbing.
"wakizashi" been through japanese wars, size range from 30-34 inch.

P.s- i heard some of the handforged sword are better quality then machined forge? Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
1. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 24 2008, 3:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 3:19 PM EDT
Katana is around 28-32 inches.
Wazakashi is around 22-26 Inches

Honestly, I would have a Katana-Wazakashi pair, but a machete is more useful when you cant use a full-up katana, cause its a one hand tool, even if its much less powerful, in Close Quarters combat the other hand is now able to grab things or open things or watever. Do you find this valuable?    
AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
2. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 24 2008, 4:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 4:04 PM EDT
"Im still debating which im gonna get?
"machete" good for slicing but could bend and is not made for stabbing.
"wakizashi" been through japanese wars, size range from 30-34 inch.

P.s- i heard some of the handforged sword are better quality then machined forge?"
If I had to chosse, I'd get get an operable cutlass since it has the little buckler thing on it, offering hand protection that the Katana and Wakizashi swords don't have.

Good luck on finding a good blade though, like most are just fancy wall-hangers that'll croak if put to the test of hardcore combat. Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
3. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 24 2008, 4:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 4:59 PM EDT
"If I had to chosse, I'd get get an operable cutlass since it has the little buckler thing on it, offering hand protection that the Katana and Wakizashi swords don't have.

Good luck on finding a good blade though, like most are just fancy wall-hangers that'll croak if put to the test of hardcore combat."
Check here for sword reviews
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/sword-reviews.html
There are some good cutlasses out there.

One of my machetes is closer to the bolo than the standard machete, thicker blade for better chopping action. Do you find this valuable?    
AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
4. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 24 2008, 5:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2008, 5:59 PM EDT
"Check here for sword reviews
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/sword-reviews.html
There are some good cutlasses out there.

One of my machetes is closer to the bolo than the standard machete, thicker blade for better chopping action. "
Thanks...That Grossmesser falchion seems pretty wicked, but I'll stick to my favorite, the cutlass....I'll be doing my research to find a operable one. Do you find this valuable?    

lordofweasels
5. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 31 2008, 12:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 31 2008, 12:14 AM EDT
Take my advice, don't try to use a sword, the only way to kill them with a slashing sword is to cut their head clean off. This
1. Creates heads to bite your ankles.
2. Most likley will result in your blade just getting stuck.
3. Is very very hard for even the most skilled people to do, don't try it, it's not a good idea, you'll probably die, destroy the brain with a piercing weapon or blunt trauma. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
6. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 31 2008, 1:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 31 2008, 1:15 AM EDT
No, its not as hard as you think it is, with proper training.
You can practice by taking a watermelon and painting a 6 inch wide circle around it. Cut the watermelon in half somehwere on the strip of paint. I can reliably do it even with 2 inch strips.

And cutting through a skull with a katana seems to be fairly easy (although i have only done it twice due to a shortage of coconuts)
As many martial artist know, the coconut has similar hardness to a skull. Some martial artists can crush a coconut in a single hit, and can probably crush mine or anyone on this wiki's head in a single blow.

If you can slice a coconut in half with a katana, it will make the edges slightly less steep (slight blade erosion) but the difference is so small I could probably obliterate a few hundred coconuts before the blade became too dull.

But yes, unless you know how to stab with the sword too, lord of weasels is right, your creating a bunch of heads that is like a minefield. Unless you have bite-proof combat boots to crush them underneath your steel hobnails :D

Being serious, a curved blade like the Katana does not have an accurate stabbing attack, however, given the blade geometry, a stab attack is enormously lethal to human opponents (stab anywhere in the torse, thighs, or arms, and it will be a fatal wound, the bloodloss rate will be enormous), and if you can stab within 3 inches of your aim (takes a crapload of tiring practice though) it will destroy some critical neural structure (brain stem, brain, spinal system) and instantly put down the zed/ 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
byates
byates
7. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 31 2008, 2:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 31 2008, 2:04 PM EDT
"You can practice by taking a watermelon and painting a 6 inch wide circle around it. Cut the watermelon in half somehwere on the strip of paint. I can reliably do it even with 2 inch strips.

Unless you have bite-proof combat boots to crush them underneath your steel hobnails :D

if you can stab within 3 inches of your aim (takes a crapload of tiring practice though) it will destroy some critical neural structure (brain stem, brain, spinal system) and instantly put down the zed/"
Couple of things I am wondering about here:
1. Why the strip of paint? Why not just an X or point mark of some sort?
2. Why so much practice to hit within 3 inches of point of aim? That is a 6 inch diameter circle.

How about snake proof boots, if they can stop a snakes fangs and poison I am reasonable sure they can stop Zed's
http://www.snakeboots.com/
they also have snake guards and snake chaps, camo and blaze orange. Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
8. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 31 2008, 2:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 31 2008, 2:07 PM EDT
"P.s- i heard some of the handforged sword are better quality then machined forge?"
Some of the hand forged are better than some of the machine forged and some of the machine forged are better than some of the hand forged. Buy one designed for use and guaranteed, then test it out, use the guarantee if necessary. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
9. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Aug 31 2008, 7:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 31 2008, 7:30 PM EDT
Yep, using a machine to stamp out metal parts stresses them in weird ways.

Andy J reddson could say alot about why AK-47s which use stamped metal parts suck have no aim, and even warp when firing on auto, unlike the AR/M16 series, which have much closer tolerances. Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
10. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 12:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 12:25 AM EDT
"Yep, using a machine to stamp out metal parts stresses them in weird ways.

Andy J reddson could say alot about why AK-47s which use stamped metal parts suck have no aim, and even warp when firing on auto, unlike the AR/M16 series, which have much closer tolerances."
The tempering and annealing process to produce a usable blade would relieve the stresses. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
11. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 12:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 12:38 AM EDT
For most machined blades, you don't anneal or temper the whole piece, you can find a video somewhere on youtube.

However, it is indeed possible to have a machine made blade of extremely high quality. Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
12. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 10:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 10:28 AM EDT
"For most machined blades, you don't anneal or temper the whole piece, you can find a video somewhere on youtube.

However, it is indeed possible to have a machine made blade of extremely high quality."
If it is not heat treated, it is just a sword shaped piece of metal. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
13. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 8:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 8:51 PM EDT
yep. leave it on the wall Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
14. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 10:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 10:09 PM EDT
"yep. leave it on the wall"
Booby trap and leave for raiders to find? You would get some use out of it that way. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
15. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 1 2008, 11:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 1 2008, 11:04 PM EDT
"Booby trap and leave for raiders to find? You would get some use out of it that way."
Nooo! Now the raiders on this website won't fall for it!

ah well, the RDX under the doorway w/ clear nylon tripwire in shadows should do it. Do you find this valuable?    
july71389
july71389
16. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 2 2008, 6:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2008, 6:35 PM EDT
in my opinion i'd go with a machete because the blade of it is thicker and heavier so it could be dull but if you put enough force behind it it can sever a neck. the only bad thing is if it isnt sharpened it does have a chance of getting stuck and the Wakizashi sounds liek the blade is thinner than a mecheteand has a more of a chance of breaking. Do you find this valuable?    
AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
17. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 2 2008, 6:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2008, 6:41 PM EDT
"Nooo! Now the raiders on this website won't fall for it!

ah well, the RDX under the doorway w/ clear nylon tripwire in shadows should do it."
You nincompoop!

NOW THEY REALLY WON'T FALL FOR IT!!

XD Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
18. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
Sep 2 2008, 11:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2008, 11:58 PM EDT
"You nincompoop!

NOW THEY REALLY WON'T FALL FOR IT!!

XD "
The trick is to put the trip wire on the path to the blade. Do you find this valuable?    
AwokenCadaver
AwokenCadaver
19. RE: Machete or Wakizashi(shorter katana)?
May 21 2010, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: May 21 2010, 8:54 PM EDT
"1. Creates heads to bite your ankles"
Whoever thinks a zeds severed head could bite you and do something is soarly mistaken. A head wouldn't have a good angle (most likely would be on it's side) that and biting through a boot or shoe then sock, and being able to tear flesh? Not likely unless your an idiot. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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