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Discussion: Planting Hemp?
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SkipNChurch |
Planting Hemp?
Aug 25 2008, 6:22 PM EDT Food, oils, paper, clothing, rope, fuels, medications. http://www.industrialhemp.net/ How many survivors enclaves are knowledgeable about hemp, planning on utilizing this resource? FEO has thousands of acres planted for every little use that the plant can be used for. *EOM* 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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hollis123 |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 25 2008, 9:21 PM EDT i'll weave a joint with it 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HeavenlySword |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 25 2008, 10:12 PM EDT "Food, oils, paper, clothing, rope, fuels, medications.I was actually mulling it over, because of the many advantages. However, because of the idiotic war on drugs an actual double digit percentage of the american population have become rather addicted to narcotic substances. After Z-day, these hopeless unprepareds will do anything to get a fix. Many of us on this site will be sufficiently prepared to slaughter these idiots, but its a nasty waste of time and ammunition that you will have to spend more time searching for or producing (supposing you have the primers, resources, and machinery) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SkipNChurch |
Weave all ya want... Can't getcha high
Aug 25 2008, 11:34 PM EDT "i'll weave a joint with it"hollis, Hemp as I'm promoting is not much of a carrier of the necessary THC you want for "smooth smokin' pleasure.." This stuff is more floor matting than "ditch weed". *EOM* 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: Weave all ya want... Can't getcha high
Aug 26 2008, 2:30 AM EDT Additionally, I am allergic to pot smoke, so if you light that shit around me I WILL be forced to defend my life, by taking yours. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SkipNChurch |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 26 2008, 12:02 PM EDT "I was actually mulling it over, because of the many advantages.HZ, +1 on current pre-Zed War on Certain Chemical Compounds... In real world research for uses of IH, was amazed at what it does, and can do. What I like with it is that IH makes an excellent rotation crop. Fields of IH almost impenetrable maze of 4-8 feet tall stalks that are hard to cut, and a foot/ankle breaking can not easily bend or break crop. Grows in any soil that one might get it established in. Toss some fertilizer in on clay or sand, find plants. Grown in good "bottom land" and more plants than you want. There are problems with harvesting, machinery is very helpful for large plots. Was thinking post-Zed with any surplus of youngsters and oldsters, working IH might be an assignment there. More I research about IH, more that its practical uses in a post-Zed world would be a "great thing". Tons of uses, little investment, and even with just hand labor, the returns would be beneficial to local use and trade outside. *EOM* Do you find this valuable? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 26 2008, 12:49 PM EDT ¿Are you SERIOUSLY positing to us the marijuana is the next un-barbed barbed wire? Do you find this valuable? |
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Colimon |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 26 2008, 3:23 PM EDT I don't think that hemp (the plants that do not produce THC) should be a major priority during a zombie invasion, but if the invasion lasts quite a while, then I would definately plant some. As for other things like marijuana for medication and so forth, I think it would be easier to take stuff from a pharmacy first if you're close to one or the place you've barricaded has one. If all of those supplies are gone, then I would go ahead and grow the pot for clothing, ropes and a bit of pain relief (when actually needed). 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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The.Mad.Badger |
RE: Planting Hemp?
Aug 26 2008, 5:46 PM EDT I wouldnt want anyone in my group getting stoned when they should be watching for Z's. There are obviously more pressing things to be paying attention to. Sorry colimon, that all sounds like an excuse for a doobie to me! Do you find this valuable? |
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SkipNChurch |
No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 7:33 PM EDT "¿Are you SERIOUSLY positing to us the marijuana is the next un-barbed barbed wire?""Hemp", if you care to pop the OP link, is an industrial strength weed. Planted in rows, and plants close together, it grows straight up, plants tend to grow tight together, all but impenetrable save cutting down one plant at a time, or swathed with something powered. Even with power hemp plants are notoriously harsh on cutting tools. You can try to drive through it with a utility/pickup sized truck and may not make through deep thickets. As far as smoking IH, one would need to puff up a bushel basket load to get the active THC enough to get high. Hemp is not marijuana. Hemp is not good for smoking. Hemp is good for damn near all of Man's ills and problems. Eatens, woven, pressed for oils, seeds, and beaten apart for fibres for clothing, paper, and almost anything trees can be used for. Hemp rope.. And it simply grows doggone near anyplace you plant it and give it sun and water. Hemp is almost the perfect replacement for the logging industry that will die with most of humanity. IH will allow us to not be forced to log off our precious trees close to enclaves, fortresses, and towns. In a post Zed world when answers are desperately needed Industrial Hemp in knowing hands will be some of those repairs and fixes. As far as the folks "toking up", what happens after hours, doesn't affect moral, or ability while on Job, and I don't have people in my face complaining, I don't care. Fuck up one time, stoned when you ought not be? Next Zed that comes alone can have your unclothed backside outside the wire. I'll be vid taping this "braining" so the next lot of folks can see what happens to idiots.. AJR can have your boots.. Unkle Zed owns your brain. *EOM* Do you find this valuable? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 7:39 PM EDT ""Hemp", if you care to pop the OP link, is an industrial strength weed. Planted in rows, and plants close together, it grows straight up, plants tend to grow tight together, all but impenetrable save cutting down one plant at a time, or swathed with something powered. Even with power hemp plants are notoriously harsh on cutting tools. You can try to drive through it with a utility/pickup sized truck and may not make through deep thickets."Due, I'm SOLD. If it can really do that, I have a new fenceline plan. (Not at the wire, but the far side of the feilds, say a mile away.) Do you find this valuable? |
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SkipNChurch |
Thinking long term...
Aug 26 2008, 7:44 PM EDT "I don't think that hemp (the plants that do not produce THC) should be a major priority during a zombie invasion, but if the invasion lasts quite a while, then I would definately plant some. As for other things like marijuana for medication and so forth, I think it would be easier to take stuff from a pharmacy first if you're close to one or the place you've barricaded has one. If all of those supplies are gone, then I would go ahead and grow the pot for clothing, ropes and a bit of pain relief (when actually needed)."Colimon, Free East OrYgunn has already made long time, long term plans, of which IH is part of. We have advantage of not being in a dense population area. When Zed comes, those affected can be killed again, and our area, mostly irrigated desert, gives up one hellova buffer to grow as needed. IH would be another crop to be planted, harvested and processed. Pharmacy and outlets for all kinds of assorted "dopes" will planned on being taken advantage of. The Big However for long term stability and healthy people will be an adjustment to less immediate action drugs, and the dependency on "Gimmie Sum AntiBiOtiKs!!". Not sure how many lives will be lost in the post Zed world when folks get ill, sick, and affected by the changes in life events cause. We're gonna use IH to manufacture what we can. *EOM* Do you find this valuable? |
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HeavenlySword |
RE: No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 7:50 PM EDT "Due, I'm SOLD. If it can really do that, I have a new fenceline plan. (Not at the wire, but the far side of the feilds, say a mile away.)"You managed to convince ANDY?!?!?!?!?!? I'll see if there is a genetically modified version without THC (and maybe faster growing and tougher fibers perhaps, or even increased disease & weather resistance). Even if there isn't, I will incorporate this (after sufficient playing around with it so I understand its characteristics) into my plans. Sounds like a great way to buffer your concrete fortress so the paint job gets dinged less, and a great way to cheaply protect new expansion. What diseases attack this plant? How to cure em? What climate does it like? How fast does it grow? Is it safe around my food plants (does it grow like weeds and choke em?) The nitrating effect, is it comparable to growing legumes? How much do you have to mix hemp oil with straight diesel to get it to work in standard diesel engines? Is it soluble in kerosene? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SkipNChurch |
Some You Tubing on positive use of IH
Aug 26 2008, 7:51 PM EDT http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hemp&aq=f May end up with hours of "Oh damn, this is MUCH more info than I asked for".. :) In WW2 farmers were required to grow hemp. One can see how other countries currently use the industrial qualities of the fibre, oils and seeds. And AJR, when you see the thickets of dense thick stalked "break an ankle" ditch weeds being cut, you'll see how this would augment a good defense plan. *EOM* Do you find this valuable? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 9:14 PM EDT "You managed to convince ANDY?!?!?!?!?!?"Unlike some people, I can admit when I'm wrong. This, was one of those times. And for your entertainemnt, SOMETHING ELSE I was wrong about is the nature of "hemp" plant itself; I thought the hemp plant was useable for pot AND line equally. I have now been informed that the type of hemp plant sutable to make line is unsuitable to get high, and the type sutable to get high is unsuitable for making line. I wonder, if I burned a hemp shirt, if it would still make me sick... Probably, but I'm willing to risk puking for science... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Colimon |
RE: No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 9:38 PM EDT Ooops, maybe you misunderstood, I meant to say that hemp would be a good thing to have in the long run, but I thought that I'd add the information about hemp not being the same as marijuana. Male plants and Hemp do not produce the drug THC, only the females produce the buds neccessary to get someone high. I agree with the not needing that kind of dope for a zombie invasion. It would just cause problems and possibly people to become more paranoid than they already have to be. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HeavenlySword |
RE: Some You Tubing on positive use of IH
Aug 26 2008, 10:01 PM EDT I ate information and researched through that pile, and i did learn alot. The nitrating effect is fairly strong- but comes at a steep price- much more phosphate loss than growing legumes (peanuts anyone?) However, a regular dosage of manure should counter that. Also, no info on disease- i know all plants have diseases chasing em around And no info on climate, but it appears to grow best in clay 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: No Mary Jane AJR..
Aug 26 2008, 11:02 PM EDT "Ooops, maybe you misunderstood, I meant to say that hemp would be a good thing to have in the long run, but I thought that I'd add the information about hemp not being the same as marijuana."No, I understood you perfectly. There's a diffrence, and it's pretty big. Do you find this valuable? |
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SkipNChurch |
That is why I'm here.. "Gunna larn mi sumthin!"
Aug 27 2008, 12:20 AM EDT Gents and Ladies, If we all don't learn before Day Zed, what happens after is gonna be ugly-er. I am the son of a career uS Navy enlisted man. Old Man was an Electronics Tech, but volunteered for deck work and Watch. He wanted to be "Real Navy". Learned marlin spike sailing from some of the old WW2 guys who were soon then retiring. Rope and cable work I learned in turn from him. He could say nothing good about synthetics and everything great about hemp ropes. I almost by association HAD to learn what and why hemp was *good*. As far as post Zed work, I'd like folks here to consider what good can be made of natural fibres, oils, and seed goods. There is so much that hemp does, and for as little as some water and fertilizers. I'd love to hear more from others who might now consider what hemp might do for them in their fortifications, structures, defenses, and farming. "If is was stoopid and WORKED, it wasn't stoopid" the Old Man beat into me.. I'm the Forest Gump of Hemp production! :) *EOM* Do you find this valuable? |
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kevin990 |
RE: That is why I'm here.. "Gunna larn mi sumthin!"
Aug 27 2008, 3:58 AM EDT Ive always agreed with using plants such as hemp for more then decoration. There was a page about all this but someone removed it, i wont mention names *cough* SuperSoldier *cough* *glares* Hemp is definately the best plant for manufacturing clothing, rope etc,but if its anxiety oils and disifectants your after the female plant is your best bet. This is due to them being alot more 'thirsty' and therefore produce alot more fluids. I wanna make a page about the 'BENEFICIAL' effects of the female and male plants... im just not sure it will be safe from certain closed minded people....supersoldier Do you find this valuable? |
