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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 6:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 6:26 PM EDT
There is, it seems, ENDLESS comments that one should attempt to hold up in an oil platform.
Allow me to disabuse you of this idea.
Fire (and if it catches fire, you have no where to run but the water, where you drown, get eaten by sharks, or freeze to death)
Capsizing (and drown before you even get above deck)
Sinking (ditto)
Running ashore (I GUESS it beats drowning)
Starvation

I guess if you say that beats facing the skin jobs, you go for it. As a professional mariner, I'm telling you that that is a slow suicide.

Really, a bad choice; I know Max BROOKS sung it’s praises, but that’s because he’s a comedian. First, you have no food (if you really think you can fish enough to sustain you, you’re suicidal). Second, you have a real probability (not possibility, probability) of critical failure leading to either sinking or fire, either way, you’re gonna die. Do not even contemplate it.
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hollis123
hollis123
1. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 6:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 6:41 PM EDT
you could hunt seagulls, and if it can sink it will have life boats Do you find this valuable?    
Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
2. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 6:45 PM EDT
Ya. Sure. So MANY, MANY lifeboats. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
3. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 6:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 6:46 PM EDT
You can also try seaweed farming, and maybe putting large veggie gardens on top, and internal hydronics running off of internal power, from the craploads of oil you have stored somewhere.

That doesn solve Fire, Hurricaine, Explosions, Pirates, or even Rust (saltwater degrades EVERYTHING)
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hollis123
hollis123
4. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 6:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 6:50 PM EDT
"Ya. Sure. So MANY, MANY lifeboats."
I only need one life boat, mine, every one else can swim, or ride sharks, or get help from neptune :P
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byates
byates
5. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 8:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 8:01 PM EDT
"I only need one life boat, mine, every one else can swim, or ride sharks, or get help from neptune :P"
I thought you could walk on water? And calm the seas.
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hatewap
hatewap
6. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 8:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 8:13 PM EDT
"I thought you could walk on water? And calm the seas."
no way is a n oil plat form a good idea
what if the army uses it to eleminate the infected are for a cover up????
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Kaikelx
Kaikelx
7. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 9:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 9:09 PM EDT
"There is, it seems, ENDLESS comments that one should attempt to hold up in an oil platform.
Allow me to disabuse you of this idea.
Fire (and if it catches fire, you have no where to run but the water, where you drown, get eaten by sharks, or freeze to death)
Capsizing (and drown before you even get above deck)
Sinking (ditto)
Running ashore (I GUESS it beats drowning)
Starvation

I guess if you say that beats facing the skin jobs, you go for it. As a professional mariner, I'm telling you that that is a slow suicide.

Really, a bad choice; I know Max BROOKS sung it’s praises, but that’s because he’s a comedian. First, you have no food (if you really think you can fish enough to sustain you, you’re suicidal). Second, you have a real probability (not possibility, probability) of critical failure leading to either sinking or fire, either way, you’re gonna die. Do not even contemplate it."
Main base? No. Should you still try to capture one and man it with a trained crew? Sure why not....
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Kaikelx
Kaikelx
8. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 9:10 PM EDT
"no way is a n oil plat form a good idea
what if the army uses it to eleminate the infected are for a cover up????"
Well, if the army is going to cover it up, they're gonna go try to kill you anyways.
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
9. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 14 2008, 10:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 10:02 PM EDT
"HeavenlySword: You can also try seaweed farming, and maybe putting large veggie gardens on top, and internal hydronics running off of internal power, from the craploads of oil you have stored somewhere.
Kaikelx: Main base? No. Should you still try to capture one and man it with a trained crew? Sure why not.... "
HeavenlySword: If you actually think you can grow or get enough food on an oip platform to survive, please, by all means, try.
I'll loot you latter. If it doesn't sink first.
Kaikelx: And do what? Drill for oil? You got a lot beeter things you could do with the manpower and materials you got floating out there.
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hollis123
hollis123
10. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 16 2008, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2008, 5:02 PM EDT
"I thought you could walk on water? And calm the seas."
i can, but my x box cant.
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
11. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 17 2008, 3:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 3:47 AM EDT
Don't you have a freight train to go lie in front of. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
systeman
systeman
12. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 17 2008, 4:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 4:16 AM EDT
Even if an oil platform was a good idea, there would already be other people there. an impenetrable metal island out to sea? there would at least be workers there. and I dont know about any of you, but I think the new tenants would be unwilling to share their new home for fear of infection or just downright, good old fashioned human nature. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
29thDay
29thDay
13. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 17 2008, 12:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 12:07 PM EDT
Wasn't there an oil platform capsized by a rogue wave some years back? I'm not talking about the Draupner wave--some other platform, and there were no survivors (because you can't get above deck, like Andy said). Actually, according to wikipedia, The Keilland, capsized, rogue wave, 123 lives 1980, the Occidental had a gas explosion 1988 167 lives lost. Platforms are dangerous business even when manned by skilled workers under optimum conditions, ie in a nonZed world. There doesn't seem to be much of a safety net or escape plan in the event something goes wrong, everyone's pretty much screwed. It doesn't happen everyday, but it would likely happen frequently if manned by a bunch of unskilled survivors. Take the nature of the sea out of the equation, your still dealing with mechanical issues that, if not maintained properly, could spell instant disaster, i.e. kaboom! Personally, I wouldn't want to be at sea, platform or ship, at all, if I didn't know what I was doing or wasn't with someone who did. I think the idea of an island fortress is more intriguing, especially an island that can be secured, is in an area of temperate weather and has enough natural resources to sustain life until planned crops can be harvested. On the east coast, Marthas Vineyard is pretty good for this...they have a bad winter, but lots of bountiful crops in the summer, fall, and good fishing. Lots of homes for shelter and burning firewood for a time until other fuel plans can be made. Large enough for farming, safety from storm surges, etc., possibly small enough to root out, destroy zombies but only with a very organized effort by many survivors. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
14. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 20 2008, 2:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2008, 2:49 PM EDT
Marthas vineyard is populated by a bunch of very well connected, rich hypocrites (think kerry)

Due to the governmental connections they have there, they will probably be protected by a large contingent of the army. Schmucks like us would never get into the place.
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byates
byates
15. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 20 2008, 7:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2008, 7:28 PM EDT
"Marthas vineyard is populated by a bunch of very well connected, rich hypocrites (think kerry)
Due to the governmental connections they have there, they will probably be protected by a large contingent of the army. Schmucks like us would never get into the place."
Wonder how long it would take the grunts to realize that they had the power and that the money and power of the elite is not what it used to be.
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HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
16. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 20 2008, 11:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2008, 11:14 PM EDT
"Wonder how long it would take the grunts to realize that they had the power and that the money and power of the elite is not what it used to be."
hopefully, quickly. Some of the elite are very evil and capable people though.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
17. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 20 2008, 11:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2008, 11:17 PM EDT
I think of oil platform and zomies i think instantly about the game cold fear. I'm not too good of a swimmer, i'd pick an island before i'd pick a oil platform, or even a cruise ship and just let it drift most of the time. i think the safest place would be a aircraft carrier. Do you find this valuable?    
HeavenlySword
HeavenlySword
18. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 20 2008, 11:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2008, 11:39 PM EDT
Do you have thousands of highly trained, motivated, professional seamen at your call? Due to the size and complexity of an modern carrier, it would take hundreds of well motivated men who knew the ship well to patrol it. If you never ever were on the ship before, you can jack up the number quite a bit. If you never touched a ship before, you might as well blow your brains out Do you find this valuable?    
hollis123
hollis123
19. RE: Oil Platforms.
Sep 21 2008, 5:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 21 2008, 5:08 PM EDT
"Don't you have a freight train to go lie in front of."
dont you have a life boat to miss? :P
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