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Discussion: Newbies and Firearms -- Preparing for ZDay
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 29thDay |
Newbies and Firearms -- Preparing for ZDay
Sep 19 2008, 9:36 AM EDT OK guys, I don't know anything about firearms, except what I've seen on TV and the one time I shot a hunter friends handgun on a camping trip. So, basically, I'm going to be screwed--useless, then dead on Zday! With this in mind, I'm taking the basic NRA Pistol training course in October, then applying for my license...I'm doing all the local research now re:ownership, firing ranges, etc., also starting to read, read, read. But all the firearm info is starting to swim in my head! I'd like a live opinion. If you had TIME to prepare for a newbie to be firearm ready on Z-day, specifically your wife/mother/daughter ('cuz I'm a *girl*), where would you start? I mean, as far as weapons, in a logical order from starter weapon then moving up. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 DaveBall |
RE: Newbies and Firearms -- Preparing for ZDay
Sep 19 2008, 11:52 AM EDT Depends on your age. Allot or gun shops with gun ranges will rent guns to shoot and have instructors. Younger 10-14 sign up for a hunter training class most schools, police departments offer courses. Or find a friend who has a gun and teach you. A good metal airsoft pistol ( most have all of the features of a real gun ). Not the best but better than nothing. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
 SkipNChurch |
29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 19 2008, 11:56 AM EDT I own in "now times", pre-Zed a Firearms Education Team, business teaching students everything from NRA Basic Pistol to how to play safely with Submachineguns. We are not *hunter education*, although our methods will certainly train a student how to use their arm huntin' critters to better results. Starting out with a total newbie, we will give you four to eight hours of class time. You learn what a gun is, what it can do, how to safely handle the many types, how to properly identify ammunition and in turn what it fits in. The 3-Always Rules are hammered into you until you go to sleep muttering them. After you are comfortable handling the arms, we head to range and there I start all beginners with .22 rifles and revolvers. You'll get to blast off as man rounds as it takes for you to get comfortable handling safely, loading, unloading, and shooting at targets downrange. After you know your guns a bit better, then we start on training you to aim and hit what you are specifically are targeting. Continuing training, we'll move you up to 38 Special and possibly 9mm Luger calibered revolvers and pistols. Learning the *drill* with these is an important part of the Concealed Carry class we teach. End of your time with us, you'll be comfortable with as many types, kinds and calibers of arms as you care to handle. Competent instruction pre-Zed will not at all resemble the Evile Sensei from Karate Kid, nor would you be given some huge assed hand cannon such as the current crop of You Tube vids show, hitting the small statured woman in the face when fired.. You'll have ability and confidence to use whatever arm you trained with to the best ability we can leave you with. Should you require or desire top notch instruction, PM me, and I can attempt to find NRA certified trainers in your area to help fill your needs. *EOM* 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Andering_J_REDDSON |
RE: 29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 19 2008, 12:53 PM EDT The subject of renting came up; Defiantly try it. Me,. I can’t handle a .357 at 6’ 2” and 186#, and I happen to know a 4’ 6” 125 soaking wet mommy-of-two who can ONLY handle the BIG guns; She can’t even HOLD a .38, 9, etc without dropping the damned thing. But a .357 in her hands is death itself, come to life. She also can’t even seem to figure out how to use an AK-or AR-Series, but those pump-actions (of ANY caliber) can be used to make artwork in her hands (yes, I mean EXACTLY that; She traced the pattern on some supra-thin cheap tin, and followed the lines with slugs). So try many different types and calibers. What seems to be best overall fit in your hands (not just ergonomically, but moreso seems to be working for you) is what you should try to start out with (purchase). 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Hell_Razor |
RE: 29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 19 2008, 5:06 PM EDT I would also recommend some first aid training and physical fitness training. At the very least find a CPR instructor and get certified, or seek out a lifeguard certification. Join a gym or at the very least go running a few times a week. My point is that shooting skills are essential, but only as part of a wide variety of skills necessary to survive harsh environments. That's why I did more that just shoot M16's at basic training. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
 byates |
RE: 29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 19 2008, 6:32 PM EDT Second what Andy said, try different guns to find what is comfortable for you. You can learn to shoot anything with time and training, but why not start with what feel good to begin with, military and police tend to have to use what they are given. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SkipNChurch |
RE: Newbies and Firearms -- Preparing for ZDay
Sep 20 2008, 11:31 AM EDT "Depends on your age. Allot or gun shops with gun ranges will rent guns to shoot and have instructors. Younger 10-14 sign up for a hunter training class most schools, police departments offer courses. Or find a friend who has a gun and teach you. A good metal airsoft pistol ( most have all of the features of a real gun ). Not the best but better than nothing. "Scoffing airsoft... Leading Japanese "now times" IPSC shooters train totally with AS guns as lead projectors are unlawful in Japan. Follow link if so inclined to watch some neat AS shooting. http://tinyurl.com/airsoftzombie These young men come to States, shoot "real guns" and always score in the top end of puppy pile. For a new pistol shooter, AS is a decent option to help learn trigger control, sight use, and have fun firing. I have and use several AS guns in my classes to pass around and let folks handle long before the steel, aluminum and combat tupperware guns are brought into classes.. I'm up for and all over airsoft as a good training aid. *EOM* 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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29thDay |
RE: 29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 23 2008, 9:54 AM EDT "I would also recommend some first aid training and physical fitness training. At the very least find a CPR instructor and get certified, or seek out a lifeguard certification. Join a gym or at the very least go running a few times a week.Yes, definitely agree. I'm medically trained as a nurse and also have a lifelong fitness regime (hate running, do it begrudgingly though not enough outdoors often). Also have a decent amount of camping experience, lifelong camper (even some wilderness style up in Allegash ME a few times), I think it helps to have some outdoor living experiences so I feel OK about that (but not thrilled at the thought). But at 5'2", I DON'T feel good about hand-to-hand combat even though I've done a some basic self-defense training. I just know my limits, strengthwise, vs. a larger, very aggressive man for example. And that's not a generalized statement about women being able to defend themselves, that's just my personal assessment of me. Hence, on Z-day, I don't want to rely on stomping on a zombies insole, solar plexus, etc. as my only defense, or have to rely on someone else to defend me and mine. But, ya, I agree, it's so much more than just guns. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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29thDay |
RE: 29th.. "Oh boy.."
Sep 23 2008, 10:01 AM EDT Thanks for the info. I'm in MA, looking at the Goal Foundation for training but doing some more research to find something closer to my area (south coastal). Checking out the local rod and gun clubs. FYI, always been interested in learning how to use a firearm, shooting at targets, not a whim..so thanks. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
 zombienuke |
RE: Newbies and Firearms -- Preparing for ZDay
Sep 23 2008, 10:19 AM EDT Look for a local firearms range and ask for training start off. Maybe a .22 would be a good start then you move up and feel which weapon is truely right for you. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
