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CharliFenwick |
For Women or Families
Oct 1 2008, 12:41 PM EDT
Ok, so here's kind of a topic that requires some deep thought. I'm at the age where we're getting ready to settle down and possibly have a family. However, everytime we have this discussion it reminds me of 30 Days of Night when Eben and Stella are happy they never decided to have children. Do you rejoice that you're nonexistent children never had to go through this or do you regret that you never had that experience?How would/does having children effect your survival plan? I am female, so in my case I have the added worry of what if Z-day hits and I'm 8 months preggers? Ladies what are your thoughts on the pregnancy issue. How would you deal with it? I know this issue was touched on in Dawn of the Dead, but for real. What if you or your sister or girlfriend was pregnant or had small children? Or let's talk long term. What if a member of your party becomes pregnant several months into the standoff? Or, what if you come across children (ie under 13) that have no adults with them. Do you accept them into your party even though they are undoubtedly a huge liablity? Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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CharliFenwick |
1. RE: For Women or Families
Oct 1 2008, 12:54 PM EDT
Also, I forgot to mention some other issues for women to consider.1. Birth Control. WWZ is not the time to be spawning babies and latex condoms expire. How would your party deal with this? 2. Your monthly visit from aunt Flo. We all know this comes at the worst possibe time so when Z day hits...plan on it. Humans smell. If you're trying to hide from someone/something scent is a dead giveaway. If zombies have an increased sense of smell (ie blood) how will you address this. Not to mention the hygeine/personal discomfort associated with this. Personally, we should all be adding tampons to our BOB. Also, women tend to feel emotion and bloated. This can slow us down or even under the added stress of hormones and Z day affect our ability to overcome maybe shooting your neighbor in the face. Please don't take this as being sexist. It just that this is a real issue. Guys have hormones and a need for competition that also hinder their ability to reason sometimes. Again, let me know what you think on this. Yeah, i know this is gross guys but its a fact of life. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
SkipNChurch |
2. Lotta issues..
Oct 1 2008, 1:44 PM EDT
Everyone of them adult_serious.Nothing sexist about dealing with biology. Female issues are hard for most men to have to face, and for teens whose only experience with them is siblings or parents, maybe a sexually active girlfriend, are going to be all but impossible to deal with. Let me start with "Olde Married Pharte" here.. From a big family with sisters, step sisters and extended families of females. "That Time of Month" went all month with the girls doing their monthlies. There was no GOOD time to be a guy in my Dad's house... Now married to a woman who until she got some medical help had horrible times with hers. Charli's mention of the needs, understanding, medical, hygienic, and mentally of the woman is of total importance to a Team made of mixed sexes. We do not KNOW for certain if Unkle Zed clues in on "blood scent", however in pre-Zed life we do know that animals can and do know when a human female is in her menses. Zed? We'll have to suspect that the Undead Again CAN, plan accordingly. Female supplies will be a premium, and much needed. Not just the disposables, but health and beauty products can and will help morale for both sexes. Plan on Privatering/trading accordingly. Health supplies for her time of month are going to be something that she(s) will certainly need. Stick up, and plan for extras. Medications to help female survivor will be used and appreciated. Guys need to ask specifics, see if that particular med is findable, or in your stocks. One thing I'll add to Charli's post, is "underwear". Panties, socks, t-shirts, that fit women. Find this material, rathole it away, eventually you WILL find females that they fit, or "close enough". Baby making/raising/caring for.. Big subject, in which I feel that we need make an entire "It's Own" thread on. *EOM* 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. And also...
Oct 1 2008, 1:46 PM EDT
First dumb fuck that interjects some silly ass bunch of garbage into a VERY serious and well set Topic will find his boots over wire at AJR's and my claymore strapped to his head outside the wire..Err.. Your post edited and mocked. Help keep this Topic on track and in spirit in which Charli has opened up with. *E, nahh.. * Do you find this valuable? |
Andering_J_REDDSON |
4. RE: And also...
Oct 1 2008, 2:10 PM EDT
With my head firmly shoved up my ass in assumptions, inexperience, and personal bravado...I would like to believe if I had children and it happened, that anyone standing between me and my kids, then US and my fallback point, would severely regret being where they were- If they lived long enough to do so. But I would NEVER regret having children… Do you find this valuable? |
zooken |
5. RE: And also...
Oct 1 2008, 3:46 PM EDT
I do know of natural birth control options. But with current fear of Reddson about my judgement of posting, I will wait to post them.
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byates |
6. RE: And also...
Oct 1 2008, 5:33 PM EDT
Partial solution, might want to stock up.http://www.keeper.com/ "Simple to use, both The Moon Cup and The Keeper are innovative feminine hygiene products that are worn internally, freeing women from dependency on cumbersome, uncomfortable, expensive, paper-based products. Economical, efficient, comfortable, and environment-friendly, reusable menstrual cups are attractive alternatives to other feminine hygiene products. Made by a woman for women, The Keeper (natural gum rubber — i.e., latex) and The Moon Cup (medical grade silicone — i.e., non-latex) are both FDA-approved and the only menstrual cups made in America." And for our European members http://www.eco-essentials.co.uk/index.php?cPath=29 "Eco-friendly feminine hygiene products. Eco-friendly sanitary towels - washable menstrual pads, reusable sanitary towels by Eco-Femme." Do you find this valuable? |
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7. Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 1 2008, 5:43 PM EDT
Not all are too practical.http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/8088/beauty.html http://www.essortment.com/all/cosmeticsrecipe_rfdk.htm http://www.kitchencraftsnmore.net/bath8.html http://www.lifeinitaly.com/beauty/home-cosmetics.asp A little for our European members http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/my-diy-beauty-brand-homemade-cosmetics-13393545.html Do you find this valuable? |
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CharliFenwick |
8. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 1 2008, 7:07 PM EDT
Oh! I forgot to mention as well. For any women you may plan on adding to your party they want to check into the Implanon method of birth control. Its just a little plastic insert in your arm. It works for three years. Basically you only get a period four times a year. This would extend your tampon/PMS meds supply for quite some time. Also, unlike other methods (ie Merona) it doesn't HAVE to be removed after three years. This would mean you wouldn't have to worry about another method for quite some time. I have it. It is a really easy process to get one. Also, Implanon is just as effective as the pill/patch/nuva ring/etc. Certainly worth a look if you don't want a baby that wants brains instead of milk.... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
cj002 |
9. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 1 2008, 7:21 PM EDT
Sure kids would slow me down and their cries would attract zombies, but honestly kids would be one of my very limited reasons to keep on living. Its fun to speculate about zombies and what I would do but in reality the only thing that would keep me from blowing my brains all over the wall is the thought of little Jhonny at home waiting for dady to come get him. That and the hope that I might meet some of the other site menbers and we would join up to kick zombie ass.
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The.Mad.Badger |
10. sheila's post Z day.
Oct 1 2008, 7:27 PM EDT
Im pretty sure that we all know that the fairer sex can handle themselves in combat. The Israeli's are a prime example. and we have all seen (some pretty hot) female police officers kicking the occasional arse.So that part of the subject is pretty much covered. But there isnt just pregnancy to worry about. What about the medical care and supervision that goes with it? If there are complications you could both mother and child. Im a grade two EMT, and im unluck enough to have had a few dead babies in my van. Its soul destroying enough for us who are trained to deal with it, what effect would it have on a survivor enclosure (for example, or any other post z day gathering). Moral would take a massive hit, and anyone else who was preggers would shit a brick. The good points however, far outweigh the bad. Having a few newborns about would do wonders for moral, because everyone loves babies. IM SURE EVEN MR REDDSON LIKES BABIES. The camp would then have a few really protective parents, and everyone else would re-double there efforts. As for the month invasion of the russians.... men are all acustomed to it by now! At some point of the month that rifle will never be clean enough, and that ration pack/mre will never be the right menu. id also second AJR's coment about not getting between a parent and child! not a good place to be! Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: sheila's post Z day.
Oct 1 2008, 8:39 PM EDT
I hate to be the one to open a sore subject, but…Combat isn’t the only subject to consider, nor pregnancy the end-all/be-all. Various female-specific cancers, menstruation- And yes, rape. All serious, and not always complicated (“rape” and “rope: are easily interchanged). Do you find this valuable? |
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zooken |
12. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 1 2008, 8:46 PM EDT
"Oh! I forgot to mention as well. For any women you may plan on adding to your party they want to check into the Implanon method of birth control. Its just a little plastic insert in your arm. It works for three years. Basically you only get a period four times a year. This would extend your tampon/PMS meds supply for quite some time. Also, unlike other methods (ie Merona) it doesn't HAVE to be removed after three years. This would mean you wouldn't have to worry about another method for quite some time. I have it. It is a really easy process to get one. Also, Implanon is just as effective as the pill/patch/nuva ring/etc.I've heard good things about it, but also bad. Some of the side effects would actually make it a reliability. -Excessive menstrual bleeding -It is a peace of plastic and it has the possibility of breakage -If you think it is working how is it supposed to, and you don't get a period for a long time, you could be pregnant and not know it. But as such with anything medical, there are always side effects, pros and cons. Something to look into though, great post. Do you find this valuable? |
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zooken |
13. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 1 2008, 8:47 PM EDT
"reliability" change to "liability", my proof reading sucks today :(
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CharliFenwick |
14. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 3 2008, 5:06 PM EDT
I have implanon. It is true that in some women it can cause excessive menstrual bleeding, but most women usually have fewer and lighter periods. If you regularly remember (once a month) to check that your little plastic insert is where it should be, no problems. Also if it would break, it can easily be removed. Also, you can feel where it is in your arm so you wouldn't have to dig around to find it, although there defnately would be bleeding invovled. And yes, like any of these newer methods that reduce the number of periods, there is the risk of pregnancy which is why when Zday hits we should all be using TWO methods of contraception. Do you find this valuable? |
srmcguirk |
15. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 3 2008, 7:13 PM EDT
I was pregnant when I joined this wiki, and believe me, I put a lot of thought into this very subject. We had a long discussion thread on pregnancy not too long ago, so I won't go into that again. But as far as having babies around, while they are a liability with their crying and slowing the mother down, Mad Badger is right, people love babies. As for menstruation, give a pms-ing woman a gun and say goodbye to the zeds. There's nothing like killing something to relieve those mood swings. Also for your consideration, children can get into places adults can't. What are the chances of zeds being in the ductwork of buildings? Having a few kids around could come in handy for recon or supply trips. Do you find this valuable? |
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cj002 |
16. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 3 2008, 7:19 PM EDT
The average airduct is usually only big enough for a four year old to fit through.
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alicestar |
17. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 3 2008, 11:57 PM EDT
have all the concerns you want, children are the future. if there is a break in the production of babies you may as well walk out with a white flag because this generation will be unable to teach leadership and tactics forever. hell, for every person that dies the chances of the human race surviving a full apocalyptic outbreak decreases exponentially. and the possibility of serious birth defects increases 30% (downs syndrome, multiple sclerosis, spina bifida ect.) once either of the parents reaches age 30.
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CharliFenwick |
18. RE: Homemade cosmetics and personal hygiene supplies
Oct 4 2008, 3:09 AM EDT
You bring a good point up alicestar. Birth defects do increase with age. I believe it is one child in fifty born to a mother over forty will have downs. And repopulating the world is necessary. Its a tricky line between when it's safe to start and starting too late.
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The.Mad.Badger |
19. RE: sheila's post Z day.
Oct 4 2008, 4:30 AM EDT
This thread is called 'women and families not 'what can go wrong with women'.we've pretty much covered medical stuff. But what about the rape issue? What about dangers to families which are not based on uncle Z? Do you find this valuable? |
