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kevin990
kevin990
Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 12:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 12:07 AM EDT
Are there any foods that last forever?

I think i heard someone found 1000 year old wheat in a pyramid and it was still edible... how is this possible?
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Andering_J_REDDSON
Andering_J_REDDSON
1. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 12:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 12:47 AM EDT
Twinkies. 4  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    
SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
2. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 12:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 12:58 AM EDT
Green Jolly Ranchers
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zooken
zooken
3. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 1:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 1:25 AM EDT
Candy hearts
Even if they can go bad they'll still have the taste of chalk.
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AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
4. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 1:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 1:39 AM EDT
Corn Pops.
Even if they were to expire, they're still tasty with milk.
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byates
byates
5. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 10:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 10:27 AM EDT
Pyramids have a dry, stable environment that is good for preserving food. Many seeds are built to last for a long time without degrading. Check the article for foods with an indefinite storage life. 4  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
6. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 11:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 11:41 AM EDT
The only food material that will never expire is sugar. A bag of sugar will last forever as long as it is kept dry. I have heard of stories from artic expeditions in which they came upon a 100 year old canned goods and fed it to a cat with no visible side effects. The wheat might be free of visible deffects, but it would no longer have nutritional value. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
byates
byates
7. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 1:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 1:11 PM EDT
"The only food material that will never expire is sugar. A bag of sugar will last forever as long as it is kept dry. I have heard of stories from artic expeditions in which they came upon a 100 year old canned goods and fed it to a cat with no visible side effects. The wheat might be free of visible deffects, but it would no longer have nutritional value."
That wheat from the pyramids sprouted, if it had no nutritional value, it would not have been able to sprout.
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ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
8. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 2:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 2:12 PM EDT
They planted it? Wow you can't get wheat to do that here that is 2 years old let alone 3000 year old stuff. Must have been perfect storage conditions. Usually it has to be in cold storage for it to last like that. That is why they built that seed storage in Norway for the end of times you know. But nature has a way I guess. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
byates
byates
9. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 21 2008, 2:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2008, 2:30 PM EDT
I couldn't find a reliable source for the wheat sprouting, but did find these that are related, pretty amazing stuff.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5361396.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4086348.stm

Source to order wheat from, also other organic foods.
http://www.wheatnut.com/index.html
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Mercob
Mercob
10. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 31 2008, 10:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 10:01 PM EDT
Frozen mamoths in the snow, they ( scientists and my science teacher) say you can still eat their flesh.
Also for sugar, the chemical composition is just sucrose, this can last a very long time but in fact it will go off.
Salts dont go off, only parts start to react with other things, so if you have these in a dry cool air tight container your set.
salt is also a good way of preserving raw meat without a fridge. Check out how they did it when they sailed in the 1700's and stuff, they preserved the meat in salt.
Any person who has studied/ing chemistry can tell you this aswell
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ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
11. RE: Foods which don't expire
Oct 31 2008, 11:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 11:50 PM EDT
Salt also has no nutritional value by itself. As far as preserving meats, hell yes it is the stuff they traded for thousands of years. Salt could be more valuble then gold at times. Even in the Bible salt is described as an important commodity. But it only can go so far in preserving. Modern canning has a much longer lasting shelf life. But hey when the chips are down, salt is a great way to stretch things. Although after a whole winter of saltpork, I'll either have a heart attack or eat any other flesh I could find. RAT BURGERS!! Do you find this valuable?    
Mercob
Mercob
12. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 1 2008, 5:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2008, 5:57 AM EDT
maybe even...long pig? a bit of the human flesh :P:P NOM NOM NOM NOM 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
centorium
centorium
13. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 1 2008, 6:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2008, 6:57 AM EDT
my grandmother swears to god a pickley/relish thing that she makes herself never goes off,she's got jars that she made when she was a kid and there still fine (thats about 60 years) but i dunno about forever.

stick to canned food/frozen if you can get it

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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
14. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 1 2008, 12:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2008, 12:59 PM EDT
Instant noodles and similar products.

They are still edible after 15 years+.
I would collect them and keep them for emergency rations.

Remember this: You are always only 4 meals from a revolt.
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ganksaber
ganksaber
15. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 4 2008, 12:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 12:22 AM EST
anybody know if military rations ever go bad i know they last a long time but i don't know about forever if they do they have ever thing in them that you need including carbs, glucose, matches if you can get your hands on them keep them they are not for sale any where Do you find this valuable?    
Mercob
Mercob
16. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 4 2008, 12:50 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 12:50 AM EST
SPACE FOOD STICKS, they eat these in space.... no joke :P
full of iron and all other stuff like that and dont expire for a while. Any one find some information on that for me please... link would be useful too :)
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
17. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 4 2008, 7:29 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 7:29 AM EST
you can buy MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat, or rations) from any surplus mag, they generally have a four to five year shelf life. however, i've been told that the sheer amount of preservatives has a unique side effect on one's digestive system, so i'm going to avoid those for my daily intake.

any dry good will last a long ass time, you just have to keep it dry. pemmican and jerky is good too, also anything that is canned or pressure sealed will last four at least two years.
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DaveBall
18. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 4 2008, 10:36 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:36 AM EST
Dehydrated food will last up to 10 years.
BigBDave told me that when he bought some skids of ramen noodles that the company doesn't put an expiration date on them because they will never go bad as long as they are kept dry.
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Survivor_Gill
Survivor_Gill
19. RE: Foods which don't expire
Nov 4 2008, 11:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:22 AM EST
sugars are correct. The more simple the saccharide, the longer it will last. These are very stable molecules.

Somebody above mentioned founded antarctic expeditions where preserved foods, especially those high in sugar were still consumable. Another example are pots of honey found in various ancient burial chambers (specifically guals and egpytians) where the honey was slightly dehydrated, but totally consumable.

Of course, a diet based purley off simple sugars is one that can keep you alive, but will not maintain your nutritional health for extended periods of time. Dehydrated fruits and vegetables, and prefably fresh fruits and vegetables would need to supplement a significant portion.

Getting enough protein in your diet from preserved foods may be tough without carefully planning emergency rations.
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