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MccLovin
MccLovin
.22 as a zombie gun
Nov 16 2008, 6:30 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 16 2008, 6:30 PM EST
Do you think a .22 could kill a zombie. Idealy shooting the zombie in the head, do you think the .22 round could penetrate the skull? 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
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SuperSoldierRCP
SuperSoldierRCP
1. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 16 2008, 6:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 16 2008, 6:33 PM EST
it can and the rounds bounce which would kill but not a single round would 2-3 would befinatly kill im useing .22 for hunting and things of that nature instead of killing zed. but if all else fail us it becuase it can kill 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Melancholy_Ocelot
Melancholy_Ocelot
3. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 17 2008, 2:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2008, 2:16 PM EST
I read that the .22 was known as the "Assassin's Bullet" because it was powerful enough to penetrate the skull but it's not powerful enough to exit.

It just bounces around destroying the brain.

Sounds like a good zombie killer to me.
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SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
4. Let us remember..
Nov 17 2008, 2:46 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2008, 2:46 PM EST
"Any gun when it is the ONLY gun you have beats hell outa gun(s) you WISH you had.."

22LR is no one definition of any form of the "Single Shot Killin' Machine".
Most handgun cartridges are deficient in the "poke holes in cranium" spectrum.
.22 from a rifle *may* work. Will depend on shooters ability to keep calm, steady body systems, take aim well, control trigger, all in the few portions of a second required to take the shot.

Anyone with some training and range time can shoot little holes in paper, roll targets on backstop at known distances, and may even be able to shoot small critters.

Takes some training, skill, and muscle memory work to be able to take your 22 in whatever type of action to make consistent "kill zone" head shots.

22LR slug does not "bounce around in the brain inside skull". Does not. Generally hits something hard, terminates velocity, stops quickly.
Penetrating skull if at all takes up most of 22's supposed amazing abilities. "Bouncing around in brain" breaks most of Laws of Physics.

Use what you've got on DayZed and after. Use what you've got in hand until you scrounge up or are issued something with more power.

*EOM*
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putsleadinzombiehead
putsleadinzombiehead
5. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 28 2008, 2:25 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 2:25 AM EST
it would definitely destroy the brain, no doubt about it. I recommend the .22LR cartridge as it is the one in most supply. as a gun i would use my 10/22, so many ways to customize it to zombie killing madness. 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
6. Some videos:
Nov 28 2008, 3:05 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 3:05 AM EST
Two words:

Krinker Plinker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCMm0pn0rw4

Or you can fit the innards of your 10/22 in an airsoft PS-90 stock, you'll need to get a dummy suppressor to help protect the barrel. Here's proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dQCJmOf8vA
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War_Pig
8. It can kill with a well placed shot
Nov 28 2008, 11:46 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 11:46 AM EST
A family member of mine shot a deer in the temple with a .22LR and it dropped, so if you were to shoot a zed in the temple, that should do the trick, but it would be hard to get the shot off if it was facing you, seeing how you would have to hit the zed from the side, but it would be an alright weapon to use if there was say only one zed and it wasn't looking right at you 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Salam9nder
Salam9nder
9. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 28 2008, 11:59 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 11:59 AM EST
I think it would be a good defender's seige weapon. The ammunition is affordable and easy to stockpile in large quantities, and it doesn't weigh much if it has to be carried around. It would be suitable for plinking away at zombies wandering around on the other side of a barrier, but it doesn't have the reliable stopping power you'd want out in the field. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Hell_Razor
10. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 28 2008, 1:55 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 1:55 PM EST
It may not have the penetration or range of a 5.56, nor the power of 7.62x39, but let's look at some advantages a .22LR has...

First off, .22LR amm is cheap. Dirt cheap. Way ammo prices have been going nowadays this is a rather substantial advantage. Anybody on any budget can stock up on a good sized cache of it.

It's small casing means less powder, meaning less noise. Case and point, I can fire my GSG-5 (22LR version of the MP5) without ear plugs. Not the smartest thing to do, but compared to my other guns it draws a whole lot less attention.

It's readily availible. Every place I've been to that sells ammo sells 22LR rounds.

22's are easy to shoot. Very little recoil ensures that just about anybody in any sort of physical condition (provided they have good vision and a trigger finger anyway) can use one with ease. That may come in handy should you decide to save grandma.

Yes, you do sacrifice power, but any gun is better than no gun. Don't discount the 22 entirely.
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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
11. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 28 2008, 1:57 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 1:57 PM EST
I presume .303 British (Lee Enfield) would be sufficient.... 0  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
Ironback
Ironback
12. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Nov 28 2008, 5:36 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2008, 5:36 PM EST
I use a .223 Colt Match Target Rifle with a bull barrel. I use my military issue magazines that fit perfectly it.

All a M-16 shoots is a hyped up 22 round. You just have a few more grains of powder pushing it to super sonic speeds. I could be wrong, probably am. But I’m sure that will be pointed out post haste if so.

Heck, the SMAW (replaced the bazooka) uses the 22 hornet round for spotting so the gunner can use Kentucky Windage before popping off the rocket.

It’s my opinion that a 22 is an excellent round to use for Zed. Cheap, plentiful and light weight compared to some others it is high on my list. But there is one condition to it being a good choice: the shooter’s ability to aim.

~Ironback




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shooter45
13. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:24 AM EDT
Hey, I have a Bolt-action .22 that uses .22LR hollow-points. I wanted to test the power of it personally, and since testing it would be considered murder I got a friend of mine who managed to get a human skull (he's an anatomy professor and has tons of em) and some latex skin that's very close to human skin.

So anyways, he basically made a very lifelike human head with a real skull in it, and I think he put some gooey stuff in the middle to act as brains (he told me he put a cow brain in it), and we set it up in the woods near my home. I shot it and what do you know, it entered but did not exit, the bullet was a hollow-point and we all know what those do.

I managed to dig the bullet out of the skull (pieces anyways), the inside of the fake head was ripped to smitherines. So I believe, yes the .22 can in fact kill a Zed.
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John_234
John_234
14. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:32 AM EDT
"Hey, I have a Bolt-action .22 that uses .22LR hollow-points. I wanted to test the power of it personally, and since testing it would be considered murder I got a friend of mine who managed to get a human skull (he's an anatomy professor and has tons of em) and some latex skin that's very close to human skin.

So anyways, he basically made a very lifelike human head with a real skull in it, and I think he put some gooey stuff in the middle to act as brains (he told me he put a cow brain in it), and we set it up in the woods near my home. I shot it and what do you know, it entered but did not exit, the bullet was a hollow-point and we all know what those do.

I managed to dig the bullet out of the skull (pieces anyways), the inside of the fake head was ripped to smitherines. So I believe, yes the .22 can in fact kill a Zed."
What distance? Was the skull backed against anything? Where did it hit?
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MajorDamage
15. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:44 AM EDT
All the positive notwithstanding, unless I'm the only one to have experienced this, the .22 LR (or S or L) are also very DIRTY little rounds and the guns tend to JAM after so many rounds. Semi-auto .22 rifles/pistols have very little bolt/breach face that get gunked up along with the firing pin. In my (extensive) experience, misfires start happening right around the time when the action gets hot 'n heavy. Not the best time to be clearing a very small ejection port. .22 revolvers are more reliable until you have to get the empties out.
If you insist on a .22, I highly suggest the .22 MAGNUM which hits about as hard as a .38 special. Same benefits, more power, more report but increase in reliablilty and results.
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3DayAsylum
3DayAsylum
16. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:47 AM EDT
" the .22 LR (or S or L) are also very DIRTY little rounds and the guns tend to JAM after so many rounds."
That's why you. Clean. The firearm.
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John_234
John_234
17. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:52 AM EDT
"All the positive notwithstanding, unless I'm the only one to have experienced this, the .22 LR (or S or L) are also very DIRTY little rounds and the guns tend to JAM after so many rounds. Semi-auto .22 rifles/pistols have very little bolt/breach face that get gunked up along with the firing pin. In my (extensive) experience, misfires start happening right around the time when the action gets hot 'n heavy. Not the best time to be clearing a very small ejection port. .22 revolvers are more reliable until you have to get the empties out.
If you insist on a .22, I highly suggest the .22 MAGNUM which hits about as hard as a .38 special. Same benefits, more power, more report but increase in reliablilty and results."
Define "so many rounds"
Hundreds, thousands, what?
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MajorDamage
18. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:54 AM EDT
"That's why you. Clean. The firearm."
when. Shooting. many. no Time to stop. AND break out the Hoppe's

:-P
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humanroach
humanroach
19. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:56 AM EDT
"when. Shooting. many. no Time to stop. AND break out the Hoppe's

:-P"
i've shot my .22LR many times. i usually go through a box of 500 when i do. never have to clean it between shots
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MajorDamage
20. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:57 AM EDT
"Define "so many rounds"
Hundreds, thousands, what?"
It depends greatly upon the particular weapon. I've shot a 'borrowed 'Ruger pistol that was full of gunk (you can eat off my weapons, I keep them very clean and worked but also the range dropped after each round. I've got one .22 LR rifle that I've fired thousands through, and some days works fine, other day, every other magazine causing a jam or misfire. I have a Tec-22 that also jams on me too often.
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3DayAsylum
3DayAsylum
21. RE: .22 as a zombie gun
Apr 5 2009, 12:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 1:00 AM EDT
I clean mine regularly.

I've only had it jam two or three times.
1st, before I started my regular cleaning.
2nd, the same.
3rd, a VERY extended time at the range.

But that being said, it doesn't take THAT long to do it daily, bi-daily, or every few days.
Nor does it hurt to.
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