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rekkisu |
Other Survivors and You
Dec 21 2008, 6:13 AM EST
This is a small\ guide from my head that belongs here IMO, but I haven't yet figured out how to make my own pages. 2cents only!Depending on what you have planned and/or if you can carry out the plan you had laid out, there are two types of groups: 1) Based: You have a perimeter established, you have a defensive plan, it's working. You may or may not take in more survivors, but you are willing to assist them or don't care. Realize that a base is less vulnerable overall. 2) Wandering: You have no set place, you survive by scavenging and ruining other people's chances of survival or try to find other people to help you survive. You will ALWAYS be vulnerable. Maybe harder to find, but not well protected. Within these groups the closeness of the groups would determine the course of action I would follow. 1) Close: You are all extremely close, trusting and loyal to each other with no reason to betray one another, nor a desire to. Your best bet unless your numbers are dropping off a little. Perhaps assist trustworthy survivors in gaining ground and setting up a base close by to assist one another in case of a large attack or to coordinate defensive, recon or scavenging operations. You don't have to make yourself vulnerable. 2) Not: You're better off becoming a wandering group because you won't function well as a group on the defensive without working out your differences. You are always vulnerable. Wandering 1) Close: Take in others if you want, as a group with no set base you can use others to help your chances. 2) Not: You're probably not going to last long as a group. Work your differences out and choose what to do after that. Do you find this valuable?
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Surfacer |
1. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 15 2009, 11:37 PM EDT
If you're already running into groups, you need to move farther into whatever isolated spot you're in. If you are joining groups, good luck. Chances are people have already boarded up and are waiting it out. That, and there's likely a zach on your trail. My advice: let that group pass and if they come to you, send them on their way with as much information as possible (probable or known zach locations, raider territories, fresh water, etc.) You cannot afford to endanger your own people's lives for strangers, but you can help them on their way out. Every human not fighting you is lowering the zach population. Also, as any historian will tell you, more soldiers died because of illness than combat in most medival wars. The denser a population is, the greater chance of disease or illness spreading becomes.
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Noobzy |
2. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 16 2009, 2:36 AM EDT
I dislike how you portray us wanderers as if we want to ruin everyone elses chances.My group and I would be like merchants, selling some stuff for other stuff and planting seeds as we go, increasing everyone chances. We would also take care of small groups of zed but leave the hordes to rot. Do you find this valuable? |
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Surfacer |
3. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 16 2009, 9:47 PM EDT
Its not that you'll intentionally ruin the others chances, but you may draw zach to the isolated groups or fortresses, potentially bringing them under threat of contamination. I enjoy the idea, and others would probably like to have you, but I would rather you guys stay safe and last it out. The planting seeds thing could work very well, I think it warrants more research.
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Noobzy |
4. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 16 2009, 10:15 PM EDT
"Its not that you'll intentionally ruin the others chances, but you may draw zach to the isolated groups or fortresses, potentially bringing them under threat of contamination. I enjoy the idea, and others would probably like to have you, but I would rather you guys stay safe and last it out. The planting seeds thing could work very well, I think it warrants more research."i notice your concern but we can take care of our selves, also we would outrun the horde, because hounds can only track a scent for so long before losing it, how long would it take for a corpse with a steadily weakening nose smell us as well as a dog. also being on the move will decrease the chance of meeting big hordes not to mention much less likly to see raiders. Do you find this valuable? |
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Flashlight50 |
5. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 16 2009, 11:10 PM EDT
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If you have people showing up were you are then you will probably end up with zombies wandering around were you are in number. Get further away from population centers to hold out. I am thinking about wandering south or out south west. It will be to hard to keep enough heat in MI. I am hoping most survivors will heed the golden rule (Do onto others as you would have them do unto you). Let me come in peace and I will go in peace. Do you find this valuable? |
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Legion12 |
6. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 16 2009, 11:35 PM EDT
Even if you didn't join another group it would still be worth while to talk to then. This might be the only way to find out places that might be safer, and if anyone is mounting a force against the zombies.
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SuperSoldierRCP |
7. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 17 2009, 1:00 AM EDT
i plan to offer any refugees a spot in my colony if they diside not to take it i will give them my name and command code so that if they ever need help im there ( goes a long way to esbablishing alliances
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Noobzy |
8. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 17 2009, 2:14 AM EDT
"If you have people showing up were you are then you will probably end up with zombies wandering around were you are in number. Get further away from population centers to hold out.well you spelled peace (as in no war) as piece (as in one piece) so i just thought of this no harm ment Let me come in pieces and go in pieces. Do you find this valuable? |
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Noobzy |
9. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 17 2009, 2:16 AM EDT
"Even if you didn't join another group it would still be worth while to talk to then. This might be the only way to find out places that might be safer, and if anyone is mounting a force against the zombies."well with paniced peaple and the risk of asking a raider, i would keep the situation under my control, like have the whole thing as me or one other person would go and ask we will have them surrounded so if they killed or harmed the negotiator then we kill them ALL! Do you find this valuable? |
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Noobzy |
10. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 17 2009, 2:17 AM EDT
"i plan to offer any refugees a spot in my colony if they diside not to take it i will give them my name and command code so that if they ever need help im there ( goes a long way to esbablishing alliances"good idea but i recamend the same thing that i did to Legion12 though both of you probably realize that. Do you find this valuable? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
11. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 3:36 AM EDT
well think u and your forces have been isolated for 9months no human contact them bam some show up there bound to know something you dont
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Surfacer |
12. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 2:50 PM EDT
They do, but that's not a good enough reason to just let them live with you. You could trade supplies I suppose...but they coluld always just be lying to get what you have. Monitor the airways, and gather your own information.
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IrishHitman |
13. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 8:28 PM EDT
My formula:All men, armed: Threat, eliminate or avoid. Mixed, armed: Observe, determine judgement. All women, armed: Threat, eliminate or avoid. Exceptions to the above can be made, depending on circumstance. Unarmed groups, usurp or eliminate them. If usurped, do not arm them until it has been determined that they are trustworthy. Note: Armed = multiple firearms. Do you find this valuable? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
14. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 8:34 PM EDT
i agree with above but if u have a a humvee with 3 guys one one a 50cal and a megaphone we mean you know harm better then not making contact somethign to get the ball rolling
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IrishHitman |
15. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 8:41 PM EDT
"i agree with above but if u have a a humvee with 3 guys one one a 50cal and a megaphone we mean you know harm better then not making contact somethign to get the ball rolling"Like I said, exceptions can be made. Though I suspect I'm more ruthless than you are XD Do you find this valuable? |
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rekkisu |
16. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 8:53 PM EDT
Really the whole point of me putting up my little thing was to sort of draw a relative line as a base for thoughts after I saw what a lot of people figured was the proper way to carry it out. Really mostly everyone who has any other idea on what to do is basically saying "Screw everyone else. If they aren't capable of defending themselves crush them and move on." My last cent on this one is this: If you destroy all other survivors who are modifying your chances of survival, how do you plan to carry on AFTER the outbreak is over? You've isolated yourself more or less for extended periods of time, you'll just be alone still. Realize that I'm a logical thinker AND an altruist, so my views are a bit biased towards keeping as many people as humanly possible alive and safe. While my stronghold will not be a safe haven for anyone but who I bring in at the onset of the outbreak, I have no problem setting someone up elsewhere. The more people alive, the more room you have to fall back on, the larger your safe zone is. I'm looking at the positive side mainly, but I do see the point in being ruthless with possible raiders. Call me a softie, but if the minority under my care is safe and good to go, I'm going to extend my hand to others in hopes of an alliance. Anyone in the area when it all goes down, look me up, but don't be aggressive. We're all sharpshooters here. :D Do you find this valuable? |
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Noobzy |
17. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 9:00 PM EDT
"Really the whole point of me putting up my little thing was to sort of draw a relative line as a base for thoughts after I saw what a lot of people figured was the proper way to carry it out. Really mostly everyone who has any other idea on what to do is basically saying "Screw everyone else. If they aren't capable of defending themselves crush them and move on." My last cent on this one is this: If you destroy all other survivors who are modifying your chances of survival, how do you plan to carry on AFTER the outbreak is over? You've isolated yourself more or less for extended periods of time, you'll just be alone still. Realize that I'm a logical thinker AND an altruist, so my views are a bit biased towards keeping as many people as humanly possible alive and safe. While my stronghold will not be a safe haven for anyone but who I bring in at the onset of the outbreak, I have no problem setting someone up elsewhere. The more people alive, the more room you have to fall back on, the larger your safe zone is.i agree that the more peaple that are alive the better your own chances are. also if you have the seperate groups in isolastion to long they will become hostile towards one an other. that is why my group would be the merchants that will pull everyone back together after the outbrake. Do you find this valuable? |
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womule2005 |
18. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 21 2009, 9:27 PM EDT
"i agree that the more peaple that are alive the better your own chances are.my hope is that the worst that happens will bring out the best in people. yeah, yeah, its a little optimistic. but i think there are pockets of people in this country that will get advanced notice of the outbreak and will bond together for corporate survival. in the country people are known for pulling together in tough times Do you find this valuable? |
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Surfacer |
19. RE: Other Survivors and You
Mar 22 2009, 9:17 AM EDT
What country are you talking about?
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