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Slug23 |
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Slug23 |
1. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 6:27 PM EST
Would a pistol grip with no stock or a solid buttstock be better?
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CyprusBill |
2. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 6:50 PM EST
A Mossy wouldn't be a BAD weapon to have. I have a 500 and I like it. I once put a pistol grip/folding stock on it, but have since gone back to the full stock. I like having the option of stock checking anything that gets too close.My only complaint with Mossbergs is it's kind of hard to put a sling on one solidly enough. Specter Gear makes an attachment that I like. It works good on my gun. http://www.spectergear.com/slingacc.htm 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Slug23 |
3. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 7:04 PM EST
but what do you think about usin that shotgun as a primary gun along with a sidearm?
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TheZDayProphet |
4. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 7:12 PM EST
um, i would definetly carry a rifle of some sort.if you just have a shotgun, youll have to get uncomfortably close. same with a side arm. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Slug23 |
5. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 7:15 PM EST
yea thats what i was thinking but what about, using a shotty when in close quarters which would be better a pistol grip or a solid buttstock?Do you find this valuable? |
Survivor_Gill |
6. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 7:49 PM EST
Shotguns can be invaluable weapons, ammunition availability is high, and the range of ammunitions give you the flexibility of situation. Intermediate distances can easily be covered with a couple brenneke magnum slugs. For that, stick with the conventional stock. Personally, if I would prefer a military grade combat rifle any time, but a civilian semi-automatic shotgun is certainly not a useless tool. Especially if you know how to use it effectively. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
xombiez |
7. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 7:53 PM EST
also, the shotgun is a bit cumbersome to load. it is simple, but easy to lose the shells you push in. as for the mossberg 500, i feel more comfortable using the pistol grip rather than a solid buttstock. it's always essential to keep a longer range weapon though.
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dooran |
8. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 8:22 PM EST
"I was wodering what you guys thought of having a Mossberg 500 12 guage shotgun as a primary weapon on Z-day."That depends. Where are you planning on being? On the move or behind some barricades? Do you find this valuable? |
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The_Chef |
9. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 9:04 PM EST
Just my personal thoughts, but I would put shotguns in the group with last ditch weapons of defense against a Zed. They are loud, kick a good bit (even with gas recoil aids like in my 1100), the ammo is bulky and heavy, short ranged and have a spread (not really good for a headshot except at close range, which is why I would use it last ditch).Yes, you could use slug rounds to take on targets longer range, but the rounds are more expensive, heavier and it's just over kill. Why not just do the simple thing and use a rifle, because at that point it's all you're doing, except making it harder for yourself. A rifle has range, less kick, lighter rounds, and those with box/clip magazines are alot easier to reload that tube fed shotguns. To mean in a post Z day environment a shotgun is just impractical and awkward, unless you have no other choice I would leave the shotguns at the last line of defense. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dooran |
10. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 9:16 PM EST
Well, if you have a decent barricade, and can afford closer combate with minimal risk, the shotgun would be a decent choice for cleaning up the horde outside.
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The_Chef |
11. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 9:24 PM EST
*Nods*But, I'm thinking about getting ready for Z day. If you are going to be safe but close range, why not just use a .22 rifle. Spare parts are cheaper, ammo is lighter and cheaper. Think about it, I buy a box of shells at 20 a box for about 9 bucks (if I were to go to a store, but I make my own shells) whereas I go buy a brick of .22 at 550 for 18 bucks. Also, I bet you could continue to fire .22 rounds for alot longer than you could shotgun shells. I know my shoulder hurts after a good feild of sporting clay, but I can burn through half a brick of .22 before I need to stretch. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dooran |
12. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 9:57 PM EST
Would be good if aiming were easy.Now let's assume that the only viable aiming option would be through the equivalent to arrow slits in the wall, just small gaps that look out over the mass of zombies in front of you. Unless they line their head up nice and clear for you, you will have to settle for a body shot. Now, there seems to be a school of thought, I am included in it, that hemmorhaging will kill a zombie, but at very high quantity of blood loss. It seems to me that a shotgun would be the better tool for causing heavier hemmorhage at close range... However, with the cost figures you gave, the rifle does still sound better. But something is better than nothing...unless of course that something is something that isss going to kill you...like a flamethrower... Do you find this valuable? |
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Slug23 |
13. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 10:05 PM EST
Shotugns would be very usefull i think, if you were trying to defend a barricade.
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byates |
14. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 10:20 PM EST
"Would a pistol grip with no stock or a solid buttstock be better?"For control, ease of use, and greater effective range go with the stock. For concealment and very tight quarters go with the pistol grip, but be ready for the recoil. On my profile page I show my Mossberg with pistol grip, I also have a full stock for it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Slug23 |
15. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 10:28 PM EST
yea thats the bad thing about the pistol grip, it will kick back alot and could cause you to miss.
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The_Chef |
16. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 11:15 PM EST
You can get the best of both worlds if you really want the spread and ability to hit without aiming. .22 has a special round that has more powder and a cap on the end filled with small shot, good use for close range hits, we use it to take care of snakes around our house. Effective range of 5 meters. Spread of about 1 foot.
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Slug23 |
17. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 11:29 PM EST
"You can get the best of both worlds if you really want the spread and ability to hit without aiming. .22 has a special round that has more powder and a cap on the end filled with small shot, good use for close range hits, we use it to take care of snakes around our house. Effective range of 5 meters. Spread of about 1 foot."Yea i have shot those, they work pretty good for birds in cloe range, but i don't think it would be to effective against zeds. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
John_234 |
18. RE: Shotgun
Dec 29 2008, 11:56 PM EST
"You can get the best of both worlds if you really want the spread and ability to hit without aiming. .22 has a special round that has more powder and a cap on the end filled with small shot, good use for close range hits, we use it to take care of snakes around our house. Effective range of 5 meters. Spread of about 1 foot."uh yeah it is called a birdshot round for a reason :P 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Slug23 |
19. RE: Shotgun
Dec 30 2008, 12:04 AM EST
"uh yeahlol i guess so.. Do you find this valuable? |
