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SuperSoldierRCP |
1. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jan 5 2009, 7:42 PM EST
gangs will try to stay close for power most will disband after some time to that members can save there skins
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byates |
2. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jan 5 2009, 9:18 PM EST
Most will know that there is power in numbers, so will stick together. Best thing for people outside the gangs would be power struggles inside the gangs.
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IorekByrnison |
3. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jan 6 2009, 12:53 PM EST
Yes and no. Looters, and, with the demise of government, and with that, the loss of controlled law enforcement, yes. Here and Europe, anyways. I wouldn't worry about the Yakuza. And I think they will more be looters than raiders, the gangs anyways. The mafia would be the biggest threat, I think. They'd use the chaos to their advantage.
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DaveBall |
4. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jan 6 2009, 1:30 PM EST
I think that they may be a large possible threat. They are Heavily armed, and highly organized. They also have little worry for others, and are also willing to sacrifice lower ranked people to secure the safety of the leadership. They will also have access to large amounts of Drugs. With drugs they will be able to get people to do what they want, threw addiction. People who are "hooked" on drugs will be considered disposable and used to fight the skin jobs. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zak_dog |
5. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jan 6 2009, 4:35 PM EST
"Yes and no. Looters, and, with the demise of government, and with that, the loss of controlled law enforcement, yes. Here and Europe, anyways. I wouldn't worry about the Yakuza. And I think they will more be looters than raiders, the gangs anyways. The mafia would be the biggest threat, I think. They'd use the chaos to their advantage."the yakuza would be a threat in japan and the usa. They have katanas and machine guns and grenade launchers, not to mention their extreme organisation 1 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
SkipNChurch |
6. Gangs, city problems?
Jan 6 2009, 11:23 PM EST
If Brooks' scenario of up to 90%+ of Humanity dying off happens *eventually*, virus, Wars, starvation, diseases, thinkin' that Cities and their environs will be hit hard.Survivors there may be gangsters, I don't know how to calculate who and what will survive The Change. What will happen is that every line of communication, every social bond will be torn apart, and in turn nothing as we know it *now* will be same *then*. I'm not worried about gangs *then* folks. Would be more worried with a gent in a tall building, a well regulated scoped rifle, and an agenda that doesn't require his or her fellow Human's close.. Whatever we can imagine, short of total extermination of Man, nothing we envision will be as bad as dayZed and The Panics. More worried about being trampled underfoot at Mao*mart on a post holiday sale than I am gangs *after*. SnC *PracticalCurmudgeon* 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Jackal1134 |
7. RE: Gangs, city problems?
Jan 7 2009, 3:50 AM EST
Some gangs are more like a government body themselves, i.e. yakuza, mafia and the like. When the day comes, they have the same chances as, say, the government over your head right now.As for the more radical and smaller gangs, I'd see the foolhardy being laid to waste, and the leaders and strong followers banding together, ending up as a large unit of anarchic warriors taking what they will. Hard to say for sure, though. Do you find this valuable? |
Deadfield |
8. RE: Gangs=raiders
Feb 24 2009, 12:03 AM EST
I live in Greater Vancouver, with the highest concentration of gangs in North America. If society deteriorated to the point where they stuck their heads up for more than an hour you should know what areas they consider to be 'territories'. Of course we also have a lot of rednecks. I don't think the gangs will have complete mobility with martial law under effect.
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necroslaughter |
9. RE: Gangs=raiders
Feb 24 2009, 9:52 AM EST
These people are not trained armies. Do you think Don Baggadonuts is in his base housing waiting to muster? They have to leave their homes get in their cars and drive to another house, same for the gangs. They are as vulnerable as anyone. They may have some chain of command but no discipline and this is a situation that needs disciplined troops to fight sustained battles not drive by shootings. When the AR the “Gangsta” is using snaps its firing pin is he going to know how to strip it down and change it out? Will Johnny Cementshoes know how to stop his Glock from stove-piping after the first 300 rounds? These groups may be a problem in the beginning but only for a short time.
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ViolentKisses |
10. RE: Gangs=raiders
Feb 24 2009, 10:03 AM EST
Well human or not if you got 40 gang members nearby who don't care if your breathing or not you better be more prepaired than a couple friends, a bat and a .22. This goes double for girls :o Unless they dont care about that either after Z day... haha watch your buttz xD IDK what I'm even talking about anymore
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DevilNuts |
11. RE: Gangs=raiders
Mar 6 2009, 10:25 AM EST
Give me my service weapon and combat load and necro and I will deal with 40 gang bangers by ourselves. No amount of angry rap music, sideways hats, baggy clothing or hypertrophic weight training is a substitute for quality combat training. Example: Most fatal gang shootings happen from within twenty yards. Most combat in Afghanistan occurs at 300 yards. Gangsters can't shoot worth a shit and they are inherently stupid. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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gibgab555 |
12. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jun 27 2009, 4:25 AM EDT
"has anyone thought that the bloods and crypts and mafia families and yakuzas will all be raiders? I mean theyve probably already killed heaps of people so they dont really care. they will be the raiders"gangs will definetly see this as an opportunity to dominate, will eventually form into clans, because there will be no athaurities to force them underground. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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fcb98292 |
13. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jun 27 2009, 11:29 AM EDT
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Gangs will remain in the cities until the military establishes checkpoints. The gangs will not seek confrontation with the military, but rather wander about the city avoiding them, looting and robbing home and business owners. Those unprepared will die. After martial law is firm within boundaries, gangs will move to suburbs in larger numbers from joining forces, with the "evil white government" as their common enemy.People ask me why I will move into the sticks during such times. "It's so far from shopping," they say. Most people have no clue that martial law will be about more than mere inconvenience. The gangs will not come out into the sticks. The hardcore survivors who turn criminal are the ones who will venture out into the sticks. They will be hungry and sick, and no match for prepared homes on land with geographical and topographical advantage. I cannot fathom staying in any city above 20,000 people. Less than that and only local police will patrol (albeit with military authority) and less trouble is likely to develop there. Gangs are smart enough to know people in the sticks have more weapons, and pride in their property, than people in the city. Life in the cities, after the SHTF, will be war between the gangs, with dire consequences for anyone who gets in between. Life in the cities, after martial law, will be a miserable life without freedom to move, buy or take a dump outside of "camp." I would rather be in my RV up in the hills for a year than dealing with military police at my door. Women and girls, a word of warning. That will not be the time to express your overblown pride of feminism by making a political statement that you are independent and can take care of yourself. You can't. You can't even do that right now, but men more or less wink at your idealism. In times of trouble, females without men are targets and will be abused, left and right, until you leave the cities. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
spamanninen |
14. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jun 27 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
"Give me my service weapon and combat load and necro and I will deal with 40 gang bangers by ourselves. No amount of angry rap music, sideways hats, baggy clothing or hypertrophic weight training is a substitute for quality combat training.lol nicely put 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MR.HOMIZIDAL |
15. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jun 27 2009, 7:09 PM EDT
most people think that gangsters arent a threat or are too stupid to do anything but gangbangers(if theyre alive) are a very real threat because they were born and raised in a hostile enviroment and their drug funds enables them to have access to an array of deadly weapons (police & military grade) and they DO know how to use guns and most have used them on an living person so an undead assailant isnt a big deal to them moral wise. and despite common belief a large percent of gang members do have military training.the biggest threat to them are survival issues (food,water,ammo) so that might push them to do what they are best at "jacking" or stealing from survivors.
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Reaper37 |
16. RE: Gangs=raiders
Jun 27 2009, 11:48 PM EDT
I would not show worry about any gang member compaired to a normal group of people. Both categories are going to do what is required for survival, some maybe worst then others, but all can be bad. Gang members arent worth a stomp of the boot. I have plenty of family associated or friends with gang members, and trust me, they arent nothing but a bunch of punk ass, thinking they are better then anyone else however are too afraid to go anywhere because of the rival color down the street. It has been statistically proven that most street thugs dont aim when firing a weapon and have very low chances of hitting a target, still or moving outside as mentioned before about a 20 foot range. When governments and law enforcement disappears, infighting between the different factions of gangs will lower their numbers, the rest can be dealt with using the proper amount of preperations. I do agree with vacating largely populated areas, but that is only because of the ptential zed numbers, not because of the local gang banger.
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gibgab555 |
17. RE: Gangs=raiders
Sep 26 2009, 12:33 AM EDT
"Give me my service weapon and combat load and necro and I will deal with 40 gang bangers by ourselves. No amount of angry rap music, sideways hats, baggy clothing or hypertrophic weight training is a substitute for quality combat training.what about mobsters? yakuza? at close quarters, a marine doesn't stand a chance. they also have fair firearm experience as well. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
John_234 |
18. RE: Gangs=raiders
Sep 26 2009, 12:38 AM EDT
"what about mobsters? yakuza? at close quarters, a marine doesn't stand a chance. they also have fair firearm experience as well."At very, very close quarters, a Marine has exactly that, a chance. Super close quarters combat, while still influenced by training and vigilance, is still mostly up to change. Now if you mean close quarters battle, as in room clearing, the Marine would still be kicking ass. Do you find this valuable? |
Carnack |
19. RE: Gangs=raiders
Sep 26 2009, 12:44 AM EDT
Honestly gangs will have bigger issues than most come ZedPoc.
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