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HjaIti
HjaIti
Surgery
Jan 6 2009, 7:13 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 6 2009, 7:13 AM EST
While writing my survivalplan I asked myself, what would be the best possible method to cure diseases, that nead a surgery? So how are you going to deal with broken bones, an infected suppendix or stuff like that?
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corpsicle
corpsicle
1. RE: Surgery
Jan 6 2009, 8:32 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 6 2009, 8:32 AM EST
You mean the vermiform appendix? I don't worry, i am a nurse. Do you find this valuable?    
HjaIti
HjaIti
2. RE: Surgery
Jan 6 2009, 9:02 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 6 2009, 9:02 AM EST
"You mean the vermiform appendix?"
yep.

But even if you are a nurse, how are you planning to get a sterile room and tools? Do you find this valuable?    
SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
3. We've got an Emergency Medical...
Jan 6 2009, 12:27 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 6 2009, 12:27 PM EST
.. line of thought working.

This set of issues and questions is important.
"Sterile" room is not as important as 'clean'. If hands and tools are chemically or heat cleaned, and you've got topical solutions to clean affected body parts prior to surgical intervention, got a good chance of success.

I've filled role of Bush Doc, working far past my certifications earned and held here in united States. Carried my bags with me that held tools, chemicals and drugs that were not in my Scope of (legal) Practice. No one who is severely wounded seemed to care, they just wanted pain to stop and holes to quit leaking.

Everything that can go wrong will with the field injured person. There is no 'BOOK' to tell one how to fix shit when your training is 45023 levels below where your patient is, and needs you NOW.

Short of hoping after dayZed that we find working ER physicians, nursing staff and allied surgical teams alive, will be that folks will have some knowledge, books and unflinching ability to "go in, go it all" to help repair the obvious, and hope for best outcome.

Every ZSW reader/participant/poster, you WILL take an updated First Aid/CPR class this year. You will learn to carry and practice with gloves and other as_clean_as_you_can_have techniques.

We may not face UNkle Zed today, or tomorrow. But we will see emergencies and problems we can help fix or abate today.

SnC *EmergencyFixitGuyForDecades* Do you find this valuable?    
byates
byates
4. RE: We've got an Emergency Medical...
Jan 6 2009, 10:52 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 6 2009, 10:52 PM EST
Best thing going is the bodies ability to heal itself from most injuries. Bad part is infections where invasive intervention is required. Do you find this valuable?    
Jackal1134
Jackal1134
5. RE: We've got an Emergency Medical...
Jan 7 2009, 3:45 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 7 2009, 3:45 AM EST
Yeah. . . some things will still be able to be fixed by surviving nurses or doctors. . .
But something I'm sorta glad about is that natural selection will now have a bigger part in our lives.
People who should die of natural causes will now die. People who would suffer for the rest of their lives will also die instead. Do you find this valuable?    

DEAMAKER
6. RE: Surgery
Jan 7 2009, 8:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 7 2009, 8:28 PM EST
"yep.

But even if you are a nurse, how are you planning to get a sterile room and tools?"
I am a O.R. Tech on the verge of finishing RN School and I feel you make some valid points. Basic first aid, cpr, etc. All very valuable tools. But the average (read stupid) person lacks the ability to diagnose or recognise the difference between a broken rib and appendicitis. Therefore I would recommend to the above either befriending a person in the medical field and including them in your team, or to begin creating an easy refference medical library. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

lazyking
7. RE: Surgery
Jan 7 2009, 8:33 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 7 2009, 8:33 PM EST
i already have a distrust of doctors and hospitals and just thinking about having an operation done in a house with basic equipment makes my skin crawl. Do you find this valuable?    
Survivor_Gill
Survivor_Gill
8. RE: Surgery
Jan 7 2009, 8:50 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 7 2009, 8:50 PM EST
Euthanasia may be an option in many of those scenarios. Either voluntary or otherwise. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
John_234
John_234
9. RE: Surgery
Jan 7 2009, 10:30 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 7 2009, 10:30 PM EST
"i already have a distrust of doctors and hospitals and just thinking about having an operation done in a house with basic equipment makes my skin crawl."
oh god, it'd be like civil war "surgery" all over again >_> Do you find this valuable?    

DEAMAKER
10. RE: Surgery
Jan 8 2009, 9:46 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 8 2009, 9:46 PM EST
"i already have a distrust of doctors and hospitals and just thinking about having an operation done in a house with basic equipment makes my skin crawl."
Most operations of a general nature can be performed with rudimentary instruments if you have a knowledgable surgical team. Besides Pal, if Zed doesn't get you, then simple infections might. Allow me to pose an indirect quote to you: Good, Bad, I'm the man with the scalpel(antibiotics, analgesics,education, Hipocratic oath, etc.) Do you find this valuable?