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JustinMcleod |
What you really need to secure the future.
Jan 20 2009, 6:28 AM EST
You can survive the Zombie Apocalypse easily... and when it's done, the world will be set back a few centuries at least. People will go insane because there are no batteries to replace the ones that have died after 1,000 recharge cycles or whatever. No electronic entertainment, no modern luxuries, no standard items of well-being that we take for granted (Toilet Paper etc)!What we need more than anything, to ensure a quick re-build in the aftermath of Z-Day, is INFORMATION! We need books about anything and everything. we need to write down our opinions and the opinions and experiences of our elders (old people are a fountain of knowlege)....but this still won;t be enough. We need info that is updated regularly. we need information on EVERYTHING! So we need the internet. it won't be there though. We need to save the information on the internet and use it within the first 25-50 years to rebuild the internet and restart the computer manufacturing process. Then we can keep all this stored data/info alive while we create everything we once knew! I suggest that you factor in the biggest library you can imagine, then the biggest electricity producing infastructure you can imagine (wind turbines, solar panels, hydro plants, diesel generators) and on top of that, a bunch of decent computers with around 50Tb of storage space at least. Then back up as many websites of relevance as you can. (this site, and any other survival site out there, any farming site, government sites, education sites, schematics on making toiletries. as many e-books as possible etc etc etc.) I am currently saving this whole site and a couple of farming sites and building sites (aswell as some cool sites that are of no use, but are entertaining to me) to my external HDD. one site(a joke website), containing mainly text is 324Mb. this site is not finished downloading and is already 507.93Mb. WE NEED MASS STORAGE! 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?
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Kavoc |
1. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jan 20 2009, 9:47 AM EST
Is it true that most nations store the world's technical information (basically anything non-fiction) in underground secure bomb shelters? I know Canada is constantly updating its emergency shelters with the lastest computer hardware and information. We also store most of the worlds plant life (in seed form of course) in seperate underground vaults.It might make your job of gathering information if you find the location of some of these shelters (although the location may be a guarded secret) before z-day Do you find this valuable? |
mercurior |
2. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jan 20 2009, 3:37 PM EST
project gutenberg is a good start, its got a lot of literature and books out of copywrite its an electronic free archive of books. all types and sorts
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byates |
3. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jan 20 2009, 5:56 PM EST
You can also download Wikipediahttp://download.wikimedia.org/ Or for something a lot more compact http://www.wikitaxi.org/delphi/doku.php/products/wikitaxi/index Do you find this valuable? |
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lazyking |
4. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jan 20 2009, 7:18 PM EST
to get raw material we will have to reopen mines and get them running without them we can't proceed in rebuilding society
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wasr762 |
5. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Feb 11 2009, 7:59 PM EST
we will need to start building strong structures, and manufacturing food
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z_warrior |
6. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Apr 26 2009, 7:01 PM EDT
its not the internet that stores anything. its the servers the internet conects to. even if you did somehow get a computer goining and the internet running you would need to restore power to all the servers to get the info from them. what i suggest is instead to maybe buy books or print the literature off the internet BEFORE the zeds come. i would sugest storing the info in laminated packages to prevent fading and water damage. although there are in fact depots holding all the information neccessary to rebuilding the modern age, you won't find them and even if you did it is just too much to sift through. we don't need the modern world so soon, it is probably a good thing that we don't. We don't need the internet after we begin to rebuild. a simple CB will work just fine. the more complicated the rebuilding is, the greater the chance for something to go wrong.
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mudroll |
7. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Apr 26 2009, 7:33 PM EDT
People the chances of people flourishing in a Class 4 outbreak is close to 0%. People may survive but we definatly won't be flourishing and expanding rapidly. And this whole topic is based off the fact that we can actually take back a good portion of area. To take back an area say like new york it'd take a good amount of people say 100 close to a few months or years.
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inu-dude25 |
8. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Apr 26 2009, 7:57 PM EDT
It depends on your weapons. With shotguns and MG's it'd take years, but if you razed an area and setup a wall to keep the zombies out, you could rebuild and start expanding outwards until you've reclaimed everything.
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mudroll |
9. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Apr 26 2009, 8:05 PM EDT
"It depends on your weapons. With shotguns and MG's it'd take years, but if you razed an area and setup a wall to keep the zombies out, you could rebuild and start expanding outwards until you've reclaimed everything."this is based on average survivors like you not me cause id be dead with maybe a few military personal or veterans. Do you find this valuable? |
EgAce |
10. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 12:58 AM EDT
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Actually, the US has a couple of these. One is in a salt mine in kansas, and the others are scattered. I may actually do this, as I can make a pretty impenetrable place with some prep and money. If ech occasion arrives, will do the computer storage thing, and also the book one. I plan to retake a large portion of land, but plan to have the knowledge beforehand. Any ideas on what I should store? suggestions will be taken. Specific suggestions. Also, if we pool money, we can make a vault, and get the books, get the computers, and store it. Problem solved.
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11. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 11:15 AM EDT
lol no toilet paper. but yes i agree that would drive people insane
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necroslaughter |
12. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 12:00 PM EDT
The problem is how do you evac with a huge library? Documents like the Constitution and Declaration of Independence are stored in virtually impenetrable areas. Something I do know for a fact is that on 9-11the original versions of the Articles of Confederation, Constitution, and Declaration were removed to safe locations and replaced with copies-so there is a plan to protect important information. Even if the originals were destroyed here must be tens of millions of faithful reproductions available. There are also humans who have much of their knowledge memorized. I have a Kindle that currently has stored over 600 books on English History pre and post revolution and American History pre and post revolution. If the apocalypse holds out until the newer larger Kindle comes out I can load and carry 3,500 books as well as PDF files which will include Black’s Law Dictionary, Blackstone’s Commentaries, Locke, Montesquieu, Jefferson, Hamilton, essays on federalism, Intergovernmental Relationships, etc… I would need a power source to be able to recharge the battery but I doubt every generator would be destroyed actually I doubt every book will be destroyed. The older more prestigious universities have their most important works in very secure areas. We have the original charter for the university as well as many essays from Ben Franklin stored behind what must be five inches of Plexiglas in fireproof areas. The world would survive without the internet. In 1984 they didn’t even offer computer classes in HS at least mine and we managed to do amazing things with what would now be considered rudimentary computers. As long as we did not lose the people with the intelligence to build computers and restart electrical grids we could survive and move forward.
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ak_fred |
13. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 12:53 PM EDT
"I'm glad you mentioned this.. Part of my shutdown or bugout plan is to take one of my portable 1TB drives with me. literally contains most of my life in it.. Tech manuals, pictures, weapons manuals. alot of survivalist info. I'll leave the mirror image one at home encrypted just in case I can come back. I've been looking into a solar panel solution for laptops.. If the SHTF I can at least have info accessible for a long time.. Do you find this valuable? |
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EgAce |
14. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 7:34 PM EDT
I suppose, because I dont think solar would work, you could take a crank flashlight and cannibalize it for laptop power. You would have to turn off backlight and other things, but ou could still acess the information.
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ak_fred |
15. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 8:22 PM EDT
"I suppose, because I dont think solar would work, you could take a crank flashlight and cannibalize it for laptop power. You would have to turn off backlight and other things, but ou could still acess the information."Well it would work and it wouldn't.. There is more than enough sunlight in the summer. But in the winter thats a different story. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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necroslaughter |
16. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
May 21 2009, 8:38 PM EDT
"I suppose, because I dont think solar would work, you could take a crank flashlight and cannibalize it for laptop power. You would have to turn off backlight and other things, but ou could still acess the information."Solar stores energy in a battery for cloudy days. I know a few people in Maine who use it year around and I have what was built as a cold war fall out shelter updated by my nutty grand mother in law after 9-11 and the lights run off solar as does the nutty ass air filtration system. It is great for me she willed my wife the house and died like two months later. She had a lot of shit running off solar but was too cheap to put a fucking water softner in. The water is so hard if you jump in the pool you could break your neck-haha. Do you find this valuable? |
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z_warrior |
17. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jun 30 2009, 2:46 AM EDT
"There is more than enough sunlight in the summer. But in the winter thats a different story.It isn't really. There is no direct sunlight, but there is definately still light. thats how you can get a sun burn on a cloudy day in the dead of winter. Plus if you live north of the snow belt, snow and ice reflect tons of light. Just reposition your pannel a little and you should barely notice a difference in power Do you find this valuable? |
3DayAsylum |
18. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jun 30 2009, 3:03 AM EDT
The light doesn't cause sunburn.UV rays do. Do you find this valuable? |
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z_warrior |
19. RE: What you really need to secure the future.
Jun 30 2009, 1:47 PM EDT
UV rays in the light... The point I was trying to make was that there is still light in winter even though it may not be direct
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