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The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 21 2009, 6:57 PM EST
Here is what one can make to shoot almost anything, If you have some basic building skills. It's a crossbow, and it will shoot a road flare pretty damn far, so imagine what dynamite would do. Now it could be useful against Zombies and even Vampires if loaded with a stake (just kidding what fool believes in vampires). It will launch almost anything and is not a toy. You can see it in my album. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/album/78041/NRAgunlovers+basic+gear/photo/3642370/Dynamite+Launcher
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Borathian |
1. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 21 2009, 9:18 PM EST
"Here is what one can make to shoot almost anything, If you have some basic building skills. It's a crossbow, and it will shoot a road flare pretty damn far, so imagine what dynamite would do. Now it could be useful against Zombies and even Vampires if loaded with a stake (just kidding what fool believes in vampires). It will launch almost anything and is not a toy. You can see it in my album. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/album/78041/NRAgunlovers+basic+gear/photo/3642370/Dynamite+Launcher"nice idea, however to actually kill a zombie and not just cripple it you would need to time the fuse down to a second to get the thing to air burst to take out the heads, a larger tube on the top would be nice also so you could add nails or something similar as shrapnel to take out even more. Do you find this valuable? |
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corpsicle |
2. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 21 2009, 11:21 PM EST
Or, one could use it to launch an improvised thermobaric explosive and its detonator.
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John_234 |
3. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 21 2009, 11:23 PM EST
"Or, one could use it to launch an improvised thermobaric explosive and its detonator."thermobaric >_> Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
4. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 22 2009, 7:17 AM EST
I'm not sure you could improvise such an explosive, however if you could the thing that makes thermometric ordinance so deadly to humans, namely the burning of air and the creation of a vacuum, would most likely not effect and actual undead zombie, so I'm still thinking a more conventional explosive with shrapnel would be far more effective.
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Borathian |
5. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 22 2009, 7:20 AM EST
op forgot to add that if you could make it in a bullet form that it would be absolutely devastating to zombies tho.
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corpsicle |
6. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 22 2009, 8:04 PM EST
"op forgot to add that if you could make it in a bullet form that it would be absolutely devastating to zombies tho."So, how about shotgun bird bombs? You know, those shot shells that you can use to scare off crows et al. Hit zombs in the head and watch the thing explode? I could be wrong, it is just speculation. Oh, then they could be considered zomb bombs. Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
7. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 22 2009, 10:18 PM EST
"So, how about shotgun bird bombs? You know, those shot shells that you can use to scare off crows et al. Hit zombs in the head and watch the thing explode? I could be wrong, it is just speculation. Oh, then they could be considered zomb bombs."I don't think it would work as bird bombs don't explode on contact since they are not meant to kill birds but rather scare them away, and so have a standard fuse that is lit as it is fired, so shooting a zombie in the head with one would only result in the device ricocheting off or simply dropping to the ground, apart from probably knocking the zombie over depending on the range at which you fired it, or perhaps killing it from sufficient head trauma, but really the point is that a simple slug could achieve the same thing. There are a couple of alternative uses for them that I can think of tho. The first one being as a detraction used in conjunction with a silenced shotgun to draw the attention of zombies to keep you form being overwhelmed in an urban area as the fuse on a shotgun class bird bomb usually allows the projectile to get out to around 200 yards. this second one depends on the bird bombs being build the way I assume they are, tho as I have never taken one apart I am not to sure as to there construction, however I have a good idea as to how it is most likely constructed. the idea behind the second alternative is to actually turn the bird bomb into a contact explosive grenade, with the general idea behind it being that you could flip the round in the case exposing the fuse, and then cutting down the fuse and adding an improvised contact igniter made from a casing primer and a few other things.(I would enplane it in more detail If I didn't think this site would be reprimanded for cantoning such information, so I shall leave the particulars up to your own imagination) Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
8. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 1:07 AM EST
Its rather simple to make a contact round.........especially with arrows....er....not that I've ever done that.......to serious harm D: Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
9. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 12:15 PM EST
"Its rather simple to make a contact round.........especially with arrows....yeah true, the way I'm thinking of includes only 4-5 parts which you then attach to the front end of the inverted and clipped bird bomb, and should only take you around 5-10 min total for each round after you have gathered the materials, which when finished would give you roughly an 18MM grenade, and with a little bit of trimming and the application of sectioned peace of 20-18 gauge steel sheet metal you could even have yourself an 18MM fragmentation grenade. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
10. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 12:49 PM EST
Have none of you ever fired a tennis ball or an heavy potato from a kerosene mortar?
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Borathian |
11. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 3:12 PM EST
"Have none of you ever fired a tennis ball or an heavy potato from a kerosene mortar?"I don't know what your getting at, so I can only assume that you are suggesting the use of such a device, however other than the use from a fortress(which is a good idea) such a device is impractical when out scavenging/scouting were a more compact option would be far more effective as it does not require the relatively excessive loading time of the devices you mentioned. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
12. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 6:05 PM EST
"I don't know what your getting at, so I can only assume that you are suggesting the use of such a device, however other than the use from a fortress(which is a good idea) such a device is impractical when out scavenging/scouting were a more compact option would be far more effective as it does not require the relatively excessive loading time of the devices you mentioned."It's a pipe stuck in the ground with an electrical trigger, some kerosene and ammunition. Even if you can't use it normally, you can still easily stick in on the back of a truck.... Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
13. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 6:49 PM EST
"It's a pipe stuck in the ground with an electrical trigger, some kerosene and ammunition.OK, and wile such a thing could have many uses, I don't see how that pertains to the current discussion about improvised grenade launchers, perhaps you should start another thread on it. or were you submitting this device as an alternative for a distraction device? of which it would be very useful when implemented correctly. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
14. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 7:10 PM EST
"OK, and wile such a thing could have many uses, I don't see how that pertains to the current discussion about improvised grenade launchers, perhaps you should start another thread on it.It could be used as a grenade launcher, or a distraction tool. Although the grenades would have to be packed in something. Do you find this valuable? |
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corpsicle |
15. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 10:08 PM EST
My patient's sons have an elaborate PVC fireworks launcher, would be great for distracting.
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John_234 |
16. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 10:48 PM EST
"Have none of you ever fired a tennis ball or an heavy potato from a kerosene mortar?"Yeah actually I was surprised what kind of distance some kerosene or lighter fluid can get Do you find this valuable? |
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3DayAsylum |
17. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 23 2009, 10:54 PM EST
That's a REAL noobtube. Well, not really, but, uh, yeah...
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Borathian |
18. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 24 2009, 8:10 AM EST
"It could be used as a grenade launcher, or a distraction tool.OK, but again given the time it takes to reload the things using it as a grenade launcher when outside of a fortress might pose a problem, so I think most people would use one in conjunction with a vehicle, rather than something you would tote around with you on foot. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishHitman |
19. RE: The everymans Grenade Laucher
Jan 24 2009, 6:16 PM EST
"Yeah actually I was surprised what kind of distance some kerosene or lighter fluid can get"Longer than a throw, that's for sure. Do you find this valuable? |