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RHYNO666 |
convoy
Feb 7 2009, 1:31 PM EST
If you have more than lets say 5-10 people in your group then this should be your main priority if you choose to remain mobile as you can have a number of vehicles to rely on and not restricted to just one type.
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Emperor.Bob |
1. RE: convoy
Feb 8 2009, 12:12 AM EST
True, but if you can keep the number of types of vehicles restricted to just a few types it would probably be a good plan. If you have, say, 2 '95 dodge rams, 3 BMW eduro motercycles, and 3 International semis, if one or two break down and you have the time, you can cannablize from the other vehicles of the same type to get them running again.
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DirttyTeeth |
2. RE: convoy
Feb 8 2009, 12:20 AM EST
"If you have more than lets say 5-10 people in your group then this should be your main priority if you choose to remain mobile as you can have a number of vehicles to rely on and not restricted to just one type."What is the purpose of the convoy do you have a HQ or are you trying to find one?????? Do you find this valuable? |
crowleyj |
3. RE: convoy
Feb 8 2009, 9:35 AM EST
read "suggested advice for convoy" page
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spraymachine |
4. RE: convoy
Feb 8 2009, 11:34 AM EST
"True, but if you can keep the number of types of vehicles restricted to just a few types it would probably be a good plan. If you have, say, 2 '95 dodge rams, 3 BMW eduro motercycles, and 3 International semis, if one or two break down and you have the time, you can cannablize from the other vehicles of the same type to get them running again."Very smart thinking with the canablizing parts and the enduro bikes. Those bikes can take on any terrain. How about you keep the bikes in the back of the truck when moving to conserve gas? I see that the Ram's get about 14/19 MPG and enduros get around 50/80 MPG. Do you find this valuable? |
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RHYNO666 |
5. RE: convoy
Feb 9 2009, 10:19 AM EST
Already have a HQ but if you need to safetly go out to scavenge for more goods its good way to keep yourself protected
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inu-dude25 |
6. RE: convoy
Apr 17 2009, 8:21 AM EDT
Or if you go with the Resident Evil Extinction train of thought. Being anywhere too long will draw the zombies and doom you, so stay on the road to avoid being pinned down.
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duttyrock |
7. RE: convoy
Mar 18 2010, 3:16 PM EDT
"Or if you go with the Resident Evil Extinction train of thought. Being anywhere too long will draw the zombies and doom you, so stay on the road to avoid being pinned down."The US Interstate Highway System has almost 50,000 miles of roads, not including state and local roadways. The right convoy could be a mobile fortress, avoiding main population centers , raiding small abandoned towns for supplies. I would based my convoy of what military vehicles i could "acquire" and readily available commercial vehicles (diesel power tow truck, city utility vehicles ) Every town in America has Ford Diesel pickups and fastfood joint. One of my vehicles would be a mobile Bio-Diesel refinery, using scavenged cooking oil from restaurants. My convoy would be made up as follows" Scout vehicle/s: F350 Tow truck or Utility truck. Uparmored as a technical. 4 to 5 man crew. Would appear to be operating solo to outsiders. Would screen 3 to 5 miles in advance of Main Body. Main Body: Gun Truck: UpArmored hummer or Technical Convoy leader; Technical Various Support Vehicles ( Water and Fuel tankers, food supply, spare parts, machine shop) Rear Guard: Heavy Wreaker, Rear Gun Truck Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
8. RE: convoy
Mar 18 2010, 3:32 PM EDT
"The US Interstate Highway System has almost 50,000 miles of roads, not including state and local roadways.How long can cooking oil stand before it becomes unusable? Do you find this valuable? |
AlexHigginbotham |
9. RE: convoy
Mar 18 2010, 3:54 PM EDT
"How long can cooking oil stand before it becomes unusable?"Quoted from The National Biodiesel Board "Most fuel today is used up long before six months, and many petroleum companies do not recommend storing petroleum diesel for more than six months. The current industry recommendation is that biodiesel be used within six months, or reanalyzed after six months to ensure the fuel meets ASTM specifications (D-6751). A longer shelf life is possible depending on the fuel composition and the use of storage enhancing additives." So I'm guessing about as long as normal diesel. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
10. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 5:51 AM EDT
"Quoted from The National Biodiesel BoardSo then even the fry-oil convoy idea has a time limit that is relatively short. Do you find this valuable? |
theghostnthedarkness |
11. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 6:29 AM EDT
"So then even the fry-oil convoy idea has a time limit that is relatively short."im not sure how many people on here have purchased a car that has been sitting but my first car was a 72 camaro that was sitting for about 7 years when i got it and it started right up and ran fine. i think the whole fuel age limit thing is a bunch of BS to keep people from trying to stockpile fuel or at least to make them buy additives that they dont need. i have started many cars that have sat for several years. im not sure about the "petrol" where your at though pedro. Do you find this valuable? |
DevilNuts |
12. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 6:43 AM EDT
It's not that the fuel becomes unusable after that time, but it does begin to break down on a molecular level. How long that takes can probably be attributed to a myriad of different factors. Even after it starts to "go bad," fuel can still be used for awhile. It will just make your engine run like sh!t. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
13. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 6:46 AM EDT
The point is biodiesel has a shelf life. At any given time it will be useless, and it seems about on part with any normal gas or diesel.Biodiesel is very popular these days, so I wouldnt be suprised to see people fighting over a taco bell as bad as they would a gas pump. Do you find this valuable? |
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duttyrock |
14. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 10:16 AM EDT
Biodiesel still has to undergo a refining process, just like crude only. So, the used cooking oil, stored behind so many restaurants, would be valued commodity. I agree, Alex, General's Tso Chicken could be a major battle ground. If a convoy will get me, my family and supplies, to a more isolated and defend-able location, its worth it. Do you find this valuable? |
mecamouser |
15. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 3:05 PM EDT
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"Various Support Vehicles ( Water and Fuel tankers, food supply, spare parts, machine shop)"After reading this, i felt compelled to explain that you have a very good point with mixing your convoy vehicles. http://images.google.com/images?q=m88a2+hercules&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=xMejS7i5JprIMr3jpYIJ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CB4QsAQwAw this is the m88a2 Hercules, this vehicle has a full mobile mechanical station. that includes a full tool setup, air tools and compressor, mobile gas station that can actually siphon gas out of vehicles as well as fill them up. The spade can excavate, as well as level ground. the boom is strong enough to lift some vehicle's (including BFV's, combat load approximately 32 tons ) completely off the ground. not to mention the 50.cal turret mounted on the top of the vehicle. i could sit and give stats all day, BUT my point i'm trying to bring across is that if you are to have a convoy, even the best vehicles need support sometime. i would suggest trying to make multiple, lighter wheeled versions of this style of vehicle. for instance, one recovery/maintenance vehicle for every so many total vehicles in the convoy. But one bone I very much have to pick here is the idea of a NON-up armored vehicle. yes i understand a civilian probably wont get access or training on how to effectively make an up armored vehicle. But simple armor modifications could end up being invaluable. for instance, filling the door panels with dirrectory's/yellow books, will actually create a pretty descent armor against small arms fire. Also putting some sort of light or heavy cage armor over the windows would atleast help keep the zombies from entering threw the windows! Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
16. RE: convoy
Mar 19 2010, 7:07 PM EDT
A lot of vehicles like that are slow and noisy.For a convoy of this size, the distance traveled would have to be a lot to make all the prep worth it. Driving from North Carolina to Oregon would be a massive pain in the ass if it was at 40mph the whole way and the sound of bulky military tires constantly humming in your ears. Do you find this valuable? |
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inu-dude25 |
17. RE: convoy
Mar 20 2010, 10:03 AM EDT
Exactly, that's why I'd go with a collection of looted vehicles with limited modification. With new vehicles, you may total one with good hit, but unless you really **** up you'll probably walk away from it.With every dealership abandoned and their stock left standing, I'd just grab a bunch of suitable vehicles, and leave them near stock. You wreck one, you hop out, climb into your buddie's vehicle and at the next available opportunity grab yourself a new ride. Do you find this valuable? |
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duttyrock |
18. RE: convoy
Mar 20 2010, 10:32 PM EDT
@ Everyone. The PDF below is a plan for long term storage of Diesel fuel. It could be modified to convoy usage.http://amsca.com/files/Download/Fuel_news_long_term_storage_diesel.pdf @ meca. Yes, I'm very familiar with the M88. As a former US Army Cav Scout (19D10) and Maintenance Officer, I have deployed with 88's many times. While the M88 is an awesome vehicle, for my convoy, I would stick with a wheeled wrecker, like the M1089 Do you find this valuable? |
