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NorCalSurvivors	Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:22 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:22 PM EST I see far too many "plans" which include things like: "And then we go to the gun store to get ..." "And then we go to Costco (Walmart, etc.) to get ..." "And then we go buy ..." If you don't have all of this stuff ahead of time, you are pretty much doomed to fail. Honestly, you are more likely to be killed by fellow humans who competing with you for the same - suddenly valuable and rare - goods than by any encounter with the undead, given proper advance planning. Organize BEFORE they rise!!! Any effective plan includes limiting the amount of contact with others. Post reply 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
Shrarah	1. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:24 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:24 PM EST ""And then we go to the gun store to get ..." " I especially hate it when people say that, unless it is FAR after the "big rush". Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Carnack	2. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:27 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:27 PM EST "I especially hate it when people say that, unless it is FAR after the "big rush"." They should change that line to "Go to the gun store to get my head blown off by the crazed shopowner who wants to keep ALL his s**t!" Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
KalZion	3. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:31 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:31 PM EST "I especially hate it when people say that, unless it is FAR after the "big rush"." 1 week should be safe to say that the big rush is over. I don't see why stocking up on food and equipment would be bad. Even if Z-Day doesn't come, you could still use them. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
NorCalSurvivors	4. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:35 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:35 PM EST Considering that it is 1 week (or FAR) AFTER "the big rush is over" ... what exactly do you expect to find? Would it not be a case of simple, clear thinking to expect that anything useful would have been already raided at that point? If not, why not? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Carnack	5. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:38 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:38 PM EST "1 week should be safe to say that the big rush is over. I don't see why stocking up on food and equipment would be bad. Even if Z-Day doesn't come, you could still use them." The time to stock up is BEFORE a crisis. Remember Y2K? People who didn't get that generator or whatever didn't get the chance to get it since they were all taken. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
KalZion	6. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:45 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:45 PM EST "The time to stock up is BEFORE a crisis. Remember Y2K? People who didn't get that generator or whatever didn't get the chance to get it since they were all taken." That's what I am saying... The definition of stocking up means storing for future use. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Shrarah	7. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:46 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:46 PM EST "They should change that line to "Go to the gun store to get my head blown off by the crazed shopowner who wants to keep ALL his st!"" KalZion..... Carnack and NorCalSurvivors are right,.... and it would take too long by the time there is anything left during "the big rush" to get supplies. (saying that the shop owner DOES NOT allow you to have some of his st) lol. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
KalZion	8. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:47 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:47 PM EST "Considering that it is 1 week (or FAR) AFTER "the big rush is over" ... what exactly do you expect to find? Would it not be a case of simple, clear thinking to expect that anything useful would have been already raided at that point? If not, why not?" Chances are that when the populace knows of the zombie outbreak, there would be already quite a number of zombies around. Last minute shoppers would find themselves zombie food and the objects of their desire would remain on the shelf. Or on the floor in some cases. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
KalZion	9. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:48 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:48 PM EST "KalZion..... Carnack and NorCalSurvivors are right,.... and it would take too long by the time there is anything left during "the big rush" to get supplies. (saying that the shop owner DOES NOT allow you to have some of his s**t) lol." NorCalSurvivors is asking what I am expecting to find and why... You and Carnack misunderstood what I am saying. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
NorCalSurvivors	10. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:51 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:51 PM EST OK ... so last-minute shoppers find themselves Z-food, and now there are MORE Z to contend with than before. Sooo ... your plan is to wait until the number of Z has been maximized ... and THEN make your supply run? This is a better plan than stocking up ahead of time how exactly? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
John_234	11. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:52 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:52 PM EST The ironic bit is that the plans in this recent rash are all titled "best plan" in some way or form. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
necroslaughter	12. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:55 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:55 PM EST "I see far too many "plans" which include things like: "And then we go to the gun store to get ..." "And then we go to Costco (Walmart, etc.) to get ..." "And then we go buy ..." If you don't have all of this stuff ahead of time, you are pretty much doomed to fail. Honestly, you are more likely to be killed by fellow humans who competing with you for the same - suddenly valuable and rare - goods than by any encounter with the undead, given proper advance planning. Organize BEFORE they rise!!! Any effective plan includes limiting the amount of contact with others." Stores would be mobbed with can you imagine a Wal-Mart on any given Saturday x 1billion. If you don’t have it you are not going to get it. I need one thing that I would need to wait for Z-day to get as it would mean pillaging a pharmacy for painkillers. If I get bit I want the big OD and then you shoot me in the head and I’m sure sleeping would be hard but you need to do it so chemical help is better than nothing add a little ADHD meds for the day time and you are good to go. Obviously this is not something you do before Z-day as who wants to spend those first important hours in JAIL. Aside from that you had better be stocked the moment the first pus head pops up. You would have to fight the living and the dead for everything. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
cyberwulf	13. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:56 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:56 PM EST "The ironic bit is that the plans in this recent rash are all titled "best plan" in some way or form." they are the best plans if we want to deal with less humans who can think and fight back then mindless ghouls i suppose... people should consider that gun stores/walmarts/all things of this nature will either be raided out/gutted out/burned out by the time any of us who are holing up in our houses will ever even get to see them (not without exception of course). however personal homes, those may still have things inside of them Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Carnack	14. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:56 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:56 PM EST "Chances are that when the populace knows of the zombie outbreak, there would be already quite a number of zombies around. Last minute shoppers would find themselves zombie food and the objects of their desire would remain on the shelf. Or on the floor in some cases." And what pray tell would be shambling around that area? Furthermore with all that blood it would be a viral hazard. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Legion12	15. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:57 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:57 PM EST Anytime any survival plan starts with " first I go here" your are toast. The world will be full of people trying to get something or somewhere last second. Even the zombies went to the mall. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
KalZion	16. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 2:58 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 2:58 PM EST "OK ... so last-minute shoppers find themselves Z-food, and now there are MORE Z to contend with than before. Sooo ... your plan is to wait until the number of Z has been maximized ... and THEN make your supply run? This is a better plan than stocking up ahead of time how exactly?" Seriously... You MISUNDERSTOOD ME. >_> "I don't see why stocking up on food and equipment would be bad. Even if Z-Day doesn't come, you could still use them." This posting can be easily understood by looking at the second sentence. GET IT? It means that I am supportive of stocking up ahead of time... Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Shrarah	17. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 3:06 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 3:06 PM EST "Seriously... You MISUNDERSTOOD ME. >_> "I don't see why stocking up on food and equipment would be bad. Even if Z-Day doesn't come, you could still use them." This posting can be easily understood by looking at the second sentence. GET IT? It means that I am supportive of stocking up ahead of time... " lol, Yes it took a while to realize that. But the MAIN point is. TRY TO PREVENT GOING BY PEOPLE DURING THE BIG RUSH. More disadvantageous than advantages. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
KalZion	18. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 3:10 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 3:10 PM EST "lol, Yes it took a while to realize that. But the MAIN point is. TRY TO PREVENT GOING BY PEOPLE DURING THE BIG RUSH. More disadvantageous than advantages. " Yeah I know... Because I have already stocked up everything I need. At least the ones that I have thought of. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Deacan	19. RE: Any plan which has as a component ... FAIL! Feb 9 2009, 3:25 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 3:25 PM EST Here is a huge problem with EVERYONES plans. YOU CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE!! Sure, have your bug-out-bag. Have an indepth plan for the zombie invasion. Even go to kinkos ahead of time and get laminated copies made with pie-charts, graphs, and pretty pictures that will outline everything you will need, hope to accomplish, and how to handle every situation. Then never leave your house for thirty years in the anticipation of Zday. It won't matter. What you should plan on is having everything ready at your house, and you being on vacation when zday comes. You should plan on not having anything whereever you are at. You should always assume your going to be on square one on day one. Sure, go ahead and stock up your house. Can't hurt. But in no way, shape, form, or fashion should you expect to be magically sitting at your house on Zday. Your not Edgar Casey here people. You predict what is going to happen tomorrow! With that in mind, you need to understand where you need to go to get what, while still managing your exposure to hazardous situations. Don't be running to the big super-market to get ninty days worth of food, when the quicky mart will do fine until you can get better established. Don't go to the big wal-mart in town to try to grab one of the rifles they have there, when there is a mom-and pop gun store right outside of town. You need to be able to evaluate your circumstances and understand your priorities. Having a B.O.B is great and all. Stocking up your house is nice. But in no way should you plan on even being there when the zeds come, cause then you are only setting yourself up for failure, misery, and a very painful death. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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