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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:39 PM EST
Generally, explosives are bad at killing zombies. Remember, zombies have no feeling, except the hunger for human flesh.

The main reason why HUMANS are injured or killed from explosives is because of the shrapnel. Zombies do not feel this pain, and even with a missing arm or leg will still come stumbling after you.

You, as a human, risk being hit by your very own shrapnel.

As for fire ... unless you are a skilled fireman who can control a fire, this is also a bad idea. Zombies do not feel the pain of being caught on fire, and if they can reach your area before it is burned to ashes, it will most likely catch everything around it on fire. Including your base. Zombies also lack the intelligence of staying away from each other when on fire. This may seem like an advantage because the more zombies that are on fire is awesome right?! Wrong. They are very slowwww fire balls that will just very slowly come get you. On fire.
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
1. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:42 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:42 PM EST
Also, I forgot about checmical warfare (like the ammonia bomb). Realize the only thing that is working in the zombie is the brain and whatever muscles are left in tact for really crappy movement. The only thing this will do is give a greater risk of making YOU sick.

**Fire should DEFINITELY be used if it can be contained. Fire is the best way to dispose of corpses (zombies or fallen survivors), but the best way to do this is to have a large hole or ditch, so no embers can be blown toward your direction.
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DaveBall
2. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:45 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:45 PM EST
It's hard to shoot if you blow your fingers off.

Explosives as a personnel style weapon are over rated unless they are in the hands of an experienced person.
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Borathian
Borathian
3. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:46 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:46 PM EST
correction, the wrong kind of explosives are bad as the right kind can kill several zombies at a time instead of just one like a bullet can, and explosives are not just used for killing things but also as a tool for other things. Do you find this valuable?    
mkxlng63
mkxlng63
4. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:46 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:46 PM EST
"It's hard to shoot if you blow your fingers off.

Explosives as a personnel style weapon are over rated unless they are in the hands of an experienced person."
Explosives can work fine, if there's shrapnel attached to them to do the damage needed to kill or disable a zombie. But like Dave said, if your not an experienced person, you shouldn't be using them unless you absolutely have too.
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Carnack
Carnack
5. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:47 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:47 PM EST
"Also, I forgot about checmical warfare (like the ammonia bomb). Realize the only thing that is working in the zombie is the brain and whatever muscles are left in tact for really crappy movement. The only thing this will do is give a greater risk of making YOU sick.

**Fire should DEFINITELY be used if it can be contained. Fire is the best way to dispose of corpses (zombies or fallen survivors), but the best way to do this is to have a large hole or ditch, so no embers can be blown toward your direction."
Actually a lot of modern high-end explosives also cause vibration damage. They can screw up bones and everything else.

And chemicals can dissolve muscle, seal receptors in the brain, and incinerate them quickly.
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
6. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:49 PM EST
"Explosives can work fine, if there's shrapnel attached to them to do the damage needed to kill or disable a zombie. But like Dave said, if your not an experienced person, you shouldn't be using them unless you absolutely have too."
I hope you didn't mean "kill or disable A zombie", because using an explosive to destroy a single zombie would be the most illogical weapon of choice.

Unless my location has been given away to thousands of zombies, I wouldn't use an explosive. That is like setting up a neon sign that says, "Come Eat Me".
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mkxlng63
mkxlng63
7. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:51 PM EST
"I hope you didn't mean "kill or disable A zombie", because using an explosive to destroy a single zombie would be the most illogical weapon of choice.

Unless my location has been given away to thousands of zombies, I wouldn't use an explosive. That is like setting up a neon sign that says, "Come Eat Me". "
No, I didn't mean a single zombie, but that brings up a good point. Use explosives only for lots of zombies.
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
8. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:51 PM EST
"Actually a lot of modern high-end explosives also cause vibration damage. They can screw up bones and everything else.

And chemicals can dissolve muscle, seal receptors in the brain, and incinerate them quickly."
Do regular citizens have the scientific experience or even the access to these chemicals and will be able to implement them without harming themselves or harming others that might be down wind?

And considering the time it would take to dissolve muscles so far that they are no longer functioning (to someone who has no regard to pain and has unlimited stamina / endurance) compared to the time it would take to reach you ... is it worth that risk?
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Carnack
Carnack
9. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:55 PM EST
"Do regular citizens have the scientific experience or even the access to these chemicals and will be able to implement them without harming themselves or harming others that might be down wind?

And considering the time it would take to dissolve muscles so far that they are no longer functioning (to someone who has no regard to pain and has unlimited stamina / endurance) compared to the time it would take to reach you ... is it worth that risk?"
Speaking as someone who saw acid eat through four feet of Brahma shoulder leather in a little under 3 minutes I would say pretty darn fast.

And citizens would have access to LOTS of hot stuff if this sort of thing happened!
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
10. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 9:58 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 9:58 PM EST
"Speaking as someone who saw acid eat through four feet of Brahma shoulder leather in a little under 3 minutes I would say pretty darn fast.

And citizens would have access to LOTS of hot stuff if this sort of thing happened!"
But the question is: Would we have time to locate, infiltrate, and collect all the ingredients. And then have time to actually MAKE this sort of weapon?

And what kind of precautions need to be taken when making this weapon?
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Carnack
Carnack
11. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:02 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:02 PM EST
"But the question is: Would we have time to locate, infiltrate, and collect all the ingredients. And then have time to actually MAKE this sort of weapon?

And what kind of precautions need to be taken when making this weapon?"
It's basic industrial acid. Hydrochloric. And wear a mask and DON'T TRIP!
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
12. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:03 PM EST
"It's basic industrial acid. Hydrochloric. And wear a mask and DON'T TRIP! "
LOL that would suck if you were really careful throughout everything and in the very end you ended up tripping and burning yourself...
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wasr762
13. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:10 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:10 PM EST
it would kind of. but if you use fire CORRECTLY, like burning corpses and destroying old barricades, it should work.

and mind you, wouldnt a zombie missing a leg,arm, or half its body be more pleaseant to fight? just sayin
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lazyking
14. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:13 PM EST
I have a had a bad experience with home made explosives, a doctor visit is never fun. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
15. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:25 PM EST
"LOL that would suck if you were really careful throughout everything and in the very end you ended up tripping and burning yourself..."
Actually it is relativly painless. It eats it too quickly for you to feel much.
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
16. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:26 PM EST
"it would kind of. but if you use fire CORRECTLY, like burning corpses and destroying old barricades, it should work.

and mind you, wouldnt a zombie missing a leg,arm, or half its body be more pleaseant to fight? just sayin"
I'm pretty sure that would gross me out. I am really sensitive about blood and gore so as much as I would like to say I would be prepared for such an event and that I wouldn't be a little girl about it ... I could sadly see myself throwing grenades and molotovs all over the place in a panic.
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KailaKrush
KailaKrush
17. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:26 PM EST
"I have a had a bad experience with home made explosives, a doctor visit is never fun. "
Especially if its a ZOMBIE doctor :O
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lazyking
18. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:29 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:29 PM EST
"Especially if its a ZOMBIE doctor :O"
I already have a sever dislike of doctors, a zombie doctor i would have to destroy it. >:)
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wasr762
19. RE: Why Explosives are Bad
Feb 15 2009, 10:30 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 15 2009, 10:30 PM EST
well, the event would be that youd be dead. and change you pic thats so annoying. it contrasts to the rest of the site Do you find this valuable?    
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