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Survivor_Gill |
1. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM EST
Definitely looks cool, don't know much more about it. Definitely not something I'd ever be able to get my hands on in Canada. Maybe next time I travel to the states.I'm experienced with a number of semi-auto shotguns, and I think something like this, although effective in conventional urban combat scenarios, would be excessive against an undead foe. It would burn through your ammunition incredibly quickly, and delivers more damage than required to kill one. It could be used effectively , but it's best attributes are suited for other scenarios. Either way, it's a cool fuckin gun. What's the price tag on one? What's the legislation like around it? 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Borathian |
2. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 10:53 AM EST
"this shotgun is the ultimate zombie killing weapon. just check out the videoI don't really like the AA12 as it has PITA mag guide so even tho it fires fast and hold quite a few rounds its slower on the reload that what I can feed into a normal shotgun, I would rather have a 590A1, M1014(Benelli M4 Super 90), or for a mag fed a Saiga 12 or similar guideless mag fed shotgun. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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NorCalSurvivors |
3. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 11:11 AM EST
Add the Mossberg 930 SPX (7+1 semi-auto) to the list ... liking it more and more everyday.Do you find this valuable? |
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Borathian |
4. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 11:33 AM EST
"Add the Mossberg 930 SPX (7+1 semi-auto) to the list ... liking it more and more everyday.Indeed, a friends of mine has one and there pretty nice(so much crap rattling around in my head it's hard to remember all the good stuff) Do you find this valuable? |
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mightyunicornhunter |
5. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 12:48 PM EST
ironically while searching for more info I came across another zombie site on the first page on google search and its has alot of info on the AA12.http://www.undeadreport.com/2007/12/aa-12-shotgun-anti-zombie-weapon-of-choice/ but I don't think there legal for civilians, but keep no ones guarding an zombie infested base, Do you find this valuable? |
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NorCalSurvivors |
6. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 20 2009, 5:34 PM EST
One nice thing that comes out of the AA12 project is the FRAG-12 shells. Those will work fine in any cylinder choke 12 gauge. Not available to civies, though.
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John_234 |
7. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 21 2009, 6:01 PM EST
High maintenance overkill? Awesome.
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Survivor_Gill |
8. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 21 2009, 6:24 PM EST
"High maintenance overkill? Awesome."What's the maintenance like on it? I find a lot of positive reviews as far as the reliability is concerned. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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John_234 |
9. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 21 2009, 6:38 PM EST
Well, supposedly stainless steel is used often and the weapon is designed to be low maintenance.I guess for what they are, they are pretty low maintenance, but still more then your average scattergun. Do you find this valuable? |
gallardog |
10. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 21 2009, 11:55 PM EST
AA12 is FTW tht is all i have to say
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crowleyj |
11. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 22 2009, 4:02 AM EST
How is this weapon going to be different then the USAS of acouple decades ago? If the anti-gunners wouldn't let the civilian market have that beauty then I don't see a chance of getting this one.
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Happyman0 |
12. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 22 2009, 4:15 AM EST
Looks Heavy.
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ww3sabiture |
13. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Feb 23 2009, 8:37 PM EST
AA 12 hmm maby its anti aircraft 12ga? lol jk i would love one no make that 2 so i can fire one into a hord then swich to my other one
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ViolentKisses |
14. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 10:47 AM EST
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I've looked over this gun for awhile now and although it isn't available in full auto to civies it is however in semi auto...It weights 10 to 10.5 pounds (not loaded) with either a 13 or 18 inch barrel... Its spring loaded to absorb recoil which makes much more manageable than other 12 guage... And reliability is on par with other semi auto shotguns... Barrel clips come in 20, 32, and 40 but are plastic and can break if dropped... This is likely to be improved... The magazines hold 8 shells... As far as stopping power it can shred anything living or undead with any the ready availibile suppy of 12 gauge shells The frag 12's which would be difficult to come by as they aren't really in use yet. Once they are Military and Police can get their hands on them but they will cost a pretty penny... Same as the AA-12 which is likely to cost around 1500 USD if u can find it... Still you would be hard pressed to find another weapon with that amount of destructive force in roughly 14 pounds that the AA-12 loaded with Frag-12 HE rounds can provide... Basically it is less of a shotgun and more of a 40 round automatic grenade launcher for decimating a huge horde of zombies... xD Do you find this valuable? |
brandon_a_boyer |
15. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 12:32 PM EST
"Barrel clips come in 20, 32, and 40 but are plastic and can break if dropped... This is likely to be improved... The magazines hold 8 shells..."where are you getting your data? I had heard that there was either an 8 round box, or a 20 round drum. while I REALLY like the concept of this gun, I don't think its going anywhere simply because at this point there isn't really a need for that sort of firepower that isn't already filled. Its also a bit on the heavy side, but it would have to be to help compensate for recoil. I think this is doomed the same fate as the pancor jackhammer or the wa2000 Do you find this valuable? |
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Survivor_Gill |
16. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 12:55 PM EST
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I STILL this it's massively overkill.I mean how many infected do you really planning to be facing at once? As I understand it, there is no semi-auto feature on this weapon; once a new round is chambered, it fires immediately due to the action of the firing bolt. I might go as far to argue that i would be able to bring down the same number of zeds, with less ammunition using my semi-auto. Not to mention that I'm not restricted from using slugs. We're going trying to breach a skull cavity, not trying to blow a zombies arms legs and dick off. It might be useful for a discipline group of soldiers in a conventional close quarters combat scenario, but I see it as a waste of precious ammunition. Especially when you're in a survival scenario where every round could mean another day of life. It's rambo syndrome. Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
17. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 1:18 PM EST
"I mean how many infected do you really planning to be facing at once? As I understand it, there is no semi-auto feature on this weapon; once a new round is chambered, it fires immediately due to the action of the firing bolt."the weapon is select-fire- gas operated. It has the option of either full or semi automatic fire. Slugs can be used in it, however at decreased effectiveness due to the smooth bore barrel. although if you really plan on using slugs that much, why not get a rifle? Do you find this valuable? |
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Survivor_Gill |
18. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 3:21 PM EST
"the weapon is select-fire- gas operated. It has the option of either full or semi automatic fire. Slugs can be used in it, however at decreased effectiveness due to the smooth bore barrel. although if you really plan on using slugs that much, why not get a rifle?"I could have sworn I read differently somewhere. Either way, it's certainly not a weapon I can get in my country. Also, I do plan to eventually buy a rifle. I just realize this is fiction, so it's not really a pressing issue. I got bigger priorities to spend my paycheck on, y'know? Do you find this valuable? |
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ViolentKisses |
19. RE: AA12 The World's Deadliest Shotgun
Mar 5 2009, 3:31 PM EST
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"where are you getting your data? I had heard that there was either an 8 round box, or a 20 round drum.You know I think it was a blackwater page where they were discussing how some testers liked the weapon... Most information on the gun is outdated because its still being perfected if you check when it was posted anything before 2007 could be old news... The 20 round barrels are black with clear plastic front and a back. The 32 and 40 are boxy not barrel and come in green or black and arent quite as nice looking as the 20... Do you find this valuable? |
