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DevilNuts	No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 10:15 AM EST First of all, I am a realist. I am not going to pretend that I have water purification tablets lying around, a closet full of weapons, rock climbing gear or even pretend that I would know how to get ahold of most of that shit in an emergency anyway. It's not important. What is important? Staying alive, staying mobile and being resourceful. So I wake up in the morning, and the town is on fire, zombies in the streets, everyones dead, boo hoo etc. etc. What would I grab? * Shoes. The Vans? No, the New Balances - it could be a long walk. * Jacket. It's not cold right now, but it will be tonight. * Cigarette lighter. Never know when you'll need to start a fire (or light a cigarette). I guess it depends on where you live. Bottom line is this: I live in a town of a few hundred thousand people. There are houses fucking EVERYwhere. I am a Marine - I have carried a huge pack, slept in the mud and all of that other happy nonsense. I know what I need and what I don't need to survive. And if by now I'm not smart enough to find a clean pair of socks, a bottle of water or a warm bed to sleep at night, then it doesn't matter what is in the bag - I'm as good as dead. The most important thing to keep on you at all times is your wits. MRE's, a portable tire inflator and magnesium sticks aren't going to do you any good if you're a moron. And it's going to be rather difficult to run from zombies with a hundred pound pack on your back. Keep it simple, and don't depend on stuff to keep you alive. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
mkxlng63	1. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 11:46 AM EST "First of all, I am a realist. I am not going to pretend that I have water purification tablets lying around, a closet full of weapons, rock climbing gear or even pretend that I would know how to get ahold of most of that shit in an emergency anyway. It's not important. What is important? Staying alive, staying mobile and being resourceful. So I wake up in the morning, and the town is on fire, zombies in the streets, everyones dead, boo hoo etc. etc. What would I grab? * Shoes. The Vans? No, the New Balances - it could be a long walk. * Jacket. It's not cold right now, but it will be tonight. * Cigarette lighter. Never know when you'll need to start a fire (or light a cigarette). I guess it depends on where you live. Bottom line is this: I live in a town of a few hundred thousand people. There are houses fucking EVERYwhere. I am a Marine - I have carried a huge pack, slept in the mud and all of that other happy nonsense. I know what I need and what I don't need to survive. And if by now I'm not smart enough to find a clean pair of socks, a bottle of water or a warm bed to sleep at night, then it doesn't matter what is in the bag - I'm as good as dead. The most important thing to keep on you at all times is your wits. MRE's, a portable tire inflator and magnesium sticks aren't going to do you any good if you're a moron. And it's going to be rather difficult to run from zombies with a hundred pound pack on your back. Keep it simple, and don't depend on stuff to keep you alive. " Well many of us don't plan on sticking around a place where you can find all that stuff, we want to be able to grab what we need and go. Nobody is talking about a hundred pound pack, you could have a all the things you need in a small pack. I have a survival pack that weighs about five or ten pounds, that I could survive at least a month with in the middle of nowhere.(assuming I had a water source nearby) It doesn't hurt to be prepared, It takes little effort and not very much money to make yourself even just a small BOB. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
John_234	2. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 1:50 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 1:50 PM EST "Well many of us don't plan on sticking around a place where you can find all that stuff, we want to be able to grab what we need and go. Nobody is talking about a hundred pound pack, you could have a all the things you need in a small pack. I have a survival pack that weighs about five or ten pounds, that I could survive at least a month with in the middle of nowhere.(assuming I had a water source nearby) It doesn't hurt to be prepared, It takes little effort and not very much money to make yourself even just a small BOB." mkxIng63 is right, I've seen, and made kits the size of Altoids tins, cigar boxes that contain the bare essentials and could easily be carried with you on a daily basis. A slightly more comprehensive kit could fit inside a messenger bag. Full, backpack size ones typically weigh about 30-50 pounds depending on the user's needs. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DaveBall	3. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 3:31 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 3:31 PM EST You don't just use your BOB for zombies. You should have it ready for any thing, fire, flood, earth quake, tornado, or any thing that will make you home less at any time. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DevilNuts	4. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 4:39 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 4:39 PM EST "You don't just use your BOB for zombies. You should have it ready for any thing, fire, flood, earth quake, tornado, or any thing that will make you home less at any time. " Of course. The survival mentality should be the same, regardless of what disaster you are faced with. That in this case it happens to be zombies is just a small detail. Still, my plan remains the same. I can operate much easier with a good pair of shoes, a warm jacket and the freedom of not being dependent on a specific gear list. I choose mobility over anything else. ** For what it's worth, if you are leaving town then I agree a BOB is essential. Personally, I would not leave the area immediately and the areas I frequent have more than enough to provide me with what I need to stay alive and healthy. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Carnack	5. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 4:42 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 4:42 PM EST "First of all, I am a realist. I am not going to pretend that I have water purification tablets lying around, a closet full of weapons, rock climbing gear or even pretend that I would know how to get ahold of most of that shit in an emergency anyway. It's not important. What is important? Staying alive, staying mobile and being resourceful. So I wake up in the morning, and the town is on fire, zombies in the streets, everyones dead, boo hoo etc. etc. What would I grab? * Shoes. The Vans? No, the New Balances - it could be a long walk. * Jacket. It's not cold right now, but it will be tonight. * Cigarette lighter. Never know when you'll need to start a fire (or light a cigarette). I guess it depends on where you live. Bottom line is this: I live in a town of a few hundred thousand people. There are houses fucking EVERYwhere. I am a Marine - I have carried a huge pack, slept in the mud and all of that other happy nonsense. I know what I need and what I don't need to survive. And if by now I'm not smart enough to find a clean pair of socks, a bottle of water or a warm bed to sleep at night, then it doesn't matter what is in the bag - I'm as good as dead. The most important thing to keep on you at all times is your wits. MRE's, a portable tire inflator and magnesium sticks aren't going to do you any good if you're a moron. And it's going to be rather difficult to run from zombies with a hundred pound pack on your back. Keep it simple, and don't depend on stuff to keep you alive. " Gotta agree with mk on this one. And I would rather carry a hundred-pound pack than get caught ass-out needing to find something that should be easy to get but isn't. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DevilNuts	6. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 4:53 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 4:53 PM EST My preference isn't for everyone, and to clarify I was only stating my own preference. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here. Additionally, I would more than likely end up with a few things in a backpack. Change of clothes, soap, water bottles, whatever. I just don't see the need to have one standing by, ready to grab on my way out the door. If it isn't something you can get, then you shouldn't convince yourself that it is something you need because it is only going to hurt that much more when you lose it. I've been out in the field, with the 80 pound pack. I've slept outside for weeks at a time. I know from personal experience that a good portion of the shit I was required to pack and bring out there with me went unused and only got in my way. Some people want to have a year's supply of shit in a backpack. Nothing wrong with that, here let me help you pack. But for me, I prefer to be able to run fast and never have to worry about what I just left behind. Food, Water, Shelter. Those are the things you "need." Anything else is just nice to have. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
AgEnT_GrEEn	7. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 8:47 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 8:47 PM EST DevilNuts does bring up a good point, and I'm very pleased with the quality and on-track conversation :D Personally, I have a 2-part BOB that I implement very often and modify when needed: Part 1: Get The Fuck Out Pouch: Has basic shyte for me to survive with in it, I carry it in a cargo pocket everyday, on the day. I also carry other survival stuff with me as well in different places on my person. All these goodies sit on my computer desk/nightstand for ease of getting and all my outfits are survival ready, even my nice outfits are good enough to get me to something better. Part 2: BOB, messenger bag full of essential survival stuff, I'm not one for carrying oodles of bullshit because some paper told me to, I've used and abused all my equipment to make sure it works for me when I need it to. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Carnack	8. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 8:54 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 8:54 PM EST "DevilNuts does bring up a good point, and I'm very pleased with the quality and on-track conversation :D Personally, I have a 2-part BOB that I implement very often and modify when needed: Part 1: Get The Fuck Out Pouch: Has basic shyte for me to survive with in it, I carry it in a cargo pocket everyday, on the day. I also carry other survival stuff with me as well in different places on my person. All these goodies sit on my computer desk/nightstand for ease of getting and all my outfits are survival ready, even my nice outfits are good enough to get me to something better. Part 2: BOB, messenger bag full of essential survival stuff, I'm not one for carrying oodles of bullshit because some paper told me to, I've used and abused all my equipment to make sure it works for me when I need it to." Agree with you on that one. Mine's also in two parts but they just make up the overall. Basics: Just the stuff needed in general. Weather specific: Stuff that's changed out depending on the weather expectations. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mkxlng63	9. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 9:09 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 9:09 PM EST "Food, Water, Shelter. Those are the things you "need." Anything else is just nice to have. " Noone's arguing with you there, but hypothetically, what if for some reason you had to leave right this second(some kind of Red Dawn bullshit or along those lines). You have 30 seconds to grab what you can and head of into the woods, and you can't use your car or else you'll be captured. 30 seconds to prepare, to gather your things. What would you do? That's the point of having a BOB. The thing in that bag might help make aquiring that food, water, and shelter a hunded time easier than having nothing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
3DayAsylum	10. RE: No BOB for me. Mar 1 2009, 9:58 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 9:58 PM EST "GREEN: Personally, I have a 2-part BOB" Personally, I keep a small one on me at all times, about the size of an Altoids tin, but a little bigger. 1) Fishing pack, the size of an average modern cell phone. - Two SMALL bobbers. - Two hooked plastic bait. - Twenty (20) smaller lead weights of varying size. - Seven half inch hooks. - Two half inch treble hooks. - 12 meters of 50-lb-test Spyder Line. 2) Sewing kit [flat, about as big as the fishing kit] (Modified Air Force Inns pack) - 4 feet of string, varying colour. - Two buttons, white. - Two Baby Diaper Pins - Several sewing needles. 3) My trusty pocket knife. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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