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Mattwillsurvive |
Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 3:40 PM EST
How are we going to make our huge marvelous bases out of what we carry on our back. Right so you need to raid. I don't care what you sa raiding will be necessary. Not all the time but just to get the supplies you need. Comments! Opinions!
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SuperSoldierRCP |
1. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 3:48 PM EST
agreed i plan to run a colony of a thousand or more theres no WAY we can survive without raiding the first couple years not possiable
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Carnack |
2. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 3:54 PM EST
There is a difference between raiding and scavenging. You can scavenge for base materials.
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Noobzy |
3. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 4:17 PM EST
wheras raiding would be to steal from fellow survivors in a differant group.
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SuperSoldierRCP |
4. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 4:26 PM EST
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"wheras raiding would be to steal from fellow survivors in a differant group."A raid A surprise attack by a small armed force. A sudden forcible entry into a place by police: a raid on a gambling den. An entrance into another's territory for the purpose of seizing goods or valuables. noobzy that was kinda a lame statement 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Noobzy |
5. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 4:28 PM EST
"A surprise attack by a small armed force.i was just saying what raiding ment in Zday not that i was against it. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Noobzy |
6. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 4:31 PM EST
ohh and what the heck did you mean by your post supersoldierrcp becuase i dont get it.i know that they are types of raiding techneches (whatever its spelled like) but it made no sense as to what they were doing. Do you find this valuable? |
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Legion12 |
7. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 4:38 PM EST
If the group you are planning on raiding has survived this long, they will be armed It would be better to try trading then have a fire fight. You shoot them today, they shoot you tommorrow. With out doctors and medical supplies a gunshot wound is going to be a bad way to die.
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Carnack |
8. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 5:04 PM EST
"A surprise attack by a small armed force.But here we tend to associate raiding with attacking a group of people in order to steal their supplies. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SuperSoldierRCP |
9. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 5:21 PM EST
we need to chance that what u u call when u need to go to a walmart for some supplies and its zed controled? scavaging? no its raiding no matter how u see it a raid is a raid no matter who its on
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Carnack |
10. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 5:24 PM EST
"we need to chance that what u u call when u need to go to a walmart for some supplies and its zed controled? scavaging? no its raiding no matter how u see it a raid is a raid no matter who its on"If you are taking from a living person through violence or intimidation it's a raid. Is taking a gun off a dead guy raiding? No it's scavenging. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
ArsenicPilot |
11. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 6:20 PM EST
I dont think that raiding is the ONLY way to live. you could always ask a group to join you or trade with them, while not as productive, i think it would end in less bloodshed, saving lives (and bullets). Just playing devil's advocate here, not opposed to raiding in emergencies, but i think it is best avoided
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Anarchy91 |
12. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 7:25 PM EST
What about farming, fishing, and hunting? Our ancestors didnt have to rely on raiding walmarts to survive.
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ViolentKisses |
13. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 7:42 PM EST
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I don't like hunting much but for alot of people I doubt they could find food outside a store even without zombies...Fishing I can do but I don't even like hurting fishes 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zombiewriter |
14. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 8:09 PM EST
"What about farming, fishing, and hunting? Our ancestors didnt have to rely on raiding walmarts to survive."It takes time to grow crops. Even the lowly radish can take 30 days from when you plant it till it's big enough to eat. Many plants will not produce seed until the second year they are in the ground which means you have to leave some of your crops and not eat them all. Hunting for a group of any size will quickly cause a decline in the animal population. It is possible to hunt all day long and never see an animal. For the vast majority of groups hunting will not be sustainable option. Trapping will deplete the small animal population even quicker. It is why the old mountain men trapped an area and then moved on. They wiped out the animals they were after. Unless you are beside the ocean or a very large river, fishing would be about the same as hunting. Ok for one or two people but for a large group... forget it. Seeking out local can goods would have to take place for any sized group to survive. Farming would have to start at once. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
KalZion |
15. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 9:57 PM EST
"If the group you are planning on raiding has survived this long, they will be armed It would be better to try trading then have a fire fight. You shoot them today, they shoot you tommorrow. With out doctors and medical supplies a gunshot wound is going to be a bad way to die."Why not just exterminate them? Join their group, then poison their food(for that day, not the entire stock). After they are poisoned, have the rest of the group come and finish them off. Of course, there are many other alternatives to poison. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Carnack |
16. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 10:02 PM EST
"Why not just exterminate them? Join their group, then poison their food(for that day, not the entire stock). After they are poisoned, have the rest of the group come and finish them off. Of course, there are many other alternatives to poison."Note to self: If Kalzion ever shows up put a bullet in his left nut. Oops I meant eye :P 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
brandon_a_boyer |
17. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 10:13 PM EST
Scavenging is essential in a post zday scenario. assuming ten percent of the population actually survives through the first few months you'll still have a leftover population of 30,000 people hungry and looking for food. While I frown on the idea of stealing food from another person there remains one key fact about humans as a wholewe are greedy creatures there is always going to be a group of one or two pecker heads holed up inside of a grocery store claiming all of the food for themselves, they won't care if you are starving, they won't care if you need medical supplies, they'll care only for themselves. And at a certain point you'll have to decide if it'll be you or them. raid when you don't have another choice, and help people as much as you can without creating problems for yourself. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zombiewriter |
18. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 10:47 PM EST
"Scavenging is essential in a post zday scenario. assuming ten percent of the population actually survives through the first few months you'll still have a leftover population of 30,000 people hungry and looking for food."If you are in the US then I think you mean 35 million. Ten percent of 350,000,000. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Legion12 |
19. RE: Raiding: The only way to live
Mar 4 2009, 10:52 PM EST
"Why not just exterminate them? Join their group, then poison their food(for that day, not the entire stock). After they are poisoned, have the rest of the group come and finish them off. Of course, there are many other alternatives to poison."How about my group just wipes out your group. When word gets out about your group you maybe the one thing that pulls all other groups together to stop. Why would you think anyone would let you join a group when you have a back pack full of poison? You don't think anyone will look in your pack? So far you have now united Carnack's group and mine in a common cause, in a way you may rebuild the world. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
