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Brm007
Brm007
Hybrid cars
Mar 13 2009, 4:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2009, 4:09 PM EDT
Hey would a hybrid car work?
They are usualy quieter and have better gas miledge
Plus alot of people are getting them now so they're easier to find.
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ALMostFoul
ALMostFoul
1. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 13 2009, 4:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2009, 4:13 PM EDT
Maybe the SUVS, as far as things like the Prius. First large boulder that thing hits it would be tits up. Got to remember, road crews won't be working to keep roads clear and a fragile green car would not be in your survivals best interest. Do you find this valuable?    
Littlejon126
Littlejon126
2. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 13 2009, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2009, 8:28 PM EDT
"Maybe the SUVS, as far as things like the Prius. First large boulder that thing hits it would be tits up. Got to remember, road crews won't be working to keep roads clear and a fragile green car would not be in your survivals best interest."
Hybrid cars aren't very reliable, as the technology is still so new. Though they are getting better....
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Borathian
Borathian
3. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 13 2009, 8:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2009, 8:35 PM EDT
I would rather just fully convert an existing vehicle to using a fuel cell rather than mess with a hybrid or hybridizing a vehicle, simple is always better, either go with gasoline or a fuel cell but not half way as then you have two systems to contend with and to keep working instead of just one or the other. Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
4. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 18 2009, 9:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 9:21 PM EDT
I'm sorry, but if humanity has come to an end and I'm likely to die in the near future, I'm not banking all of my hopes on a Prius. As for being quieter, they're not that quiet than their full gas counterparts, and the performance loss is staggering. Plus, fuel economy isn't going to be that important once there aren't any cars to use the gas, and a Prius won't get very good gas mileage anyway. A Prius uses regenerative braking to capture kinetic energy that is otherwise lost during braking. Thus, you recharge the batteries when you hit the brakes, and in a post apocalypse commute you probably won't need the brakes very often. So, on the highway and such the Prius isn't really a hybrid at all, it's just a really heavy compact with a really underpowered engine. Do you find this valuable?    
Emperor.Bob
Emperor.Bob
5. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 18 2009, 10:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 10:09 PM EDT
Although I am unimpressed with most modern hybrids as survival vehicles, the concept isn't wrong. If car ocmpanys would make them for reasons other than milage I would be impressed. For example, a properly designed hybrid could be great off road, using the gas engine for a generator and utilizing the high torque of the electric. That said, I want a little bit more flexibility than is offered by a Prius or Civic. Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
6. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 18 2009, 11:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 11:29 PM EDT
Still, I'd far rather die to the sound of a turbocharged 4-cylinder or a good ol V8 than the hum of an electric motor. Do you find this valuable?    
Happyman0
Happyman0
7. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 19 2009, 12:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2009, 12:21 AM EDT
Gas goes bad btw so if zombies keep being a problem for a few years even a hybrid ain't gonna help. Do you find this valuable?    
John199312
John199312
8. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 19 2009, 8:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2009, 8:44 AM EDT
Depends on what you want. If you're well armed, take a truck or SUV / Van. If you're freeing, take the prius. Do you find this valuable?    
Borathian
Borathian
9. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 19 2009, 10:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2009, 10:02 AM EDT
"Although I am unimpressed with most modern hybrids as survival vehicles, the concept isn't wrong. If car ocmpanys would make them for reasons other than milage I would be impressed. For example, a properly designed hybrid could be great off road, using the gas engine for a generator and utilizing the high torque of the electric. That said, I want a little bit more flexibility than is offered by a Prius or Civic."
not all hybrids are gasoline/electric though.
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
10. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 23 2009, 7:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 7:10 PM EDT
But 90 plus percent of them on the road are. For practical purposes, you'd be picking up a gas/electric hybrid.

On suggestion: At the car show this year I sat in a Chrysler Aspen HEMI Hybrid. It's a gas/electric hybrid that uses electric power under 25 mph, uses the HEMI for acceleration, and then deactivates four cylinders once the car's speed settles out. It seemed like a good idea. The performance of a HEMI, an SUV's carrying capacity, and hybrid like fuel efficiency.
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womule2005
womule2005
11. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 23 2009, 9:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 9:30 PM EDT
"I'm sorry, but if humanity has come to an end and I'm likely to die in the near future, I'm not banking all of my hopes on a Prius. As for being quieter, they're not that quiet than their full gas counterparts, and the performance loss is staggering. Plus, fuel economy isn't going to be that important once there aren't any cars to use the gas, and a Prius won't get very good gas mileage anyway. A Prius uses regenerative braking to capture kinetic energy that is otherwise lost during braking. Thus, you recharge the batteries when you hit the brakes, and in a post apocalypse commute you probably won't need the brakes very often. So, on the highway and such the Prius isn't really a hybrid at all, it's just a really heavy compact with a really underpowered engine."
gotta call you out man. sorry

1. the prius get upward of 40mpg
2. on the highway it uses the electric engines and the gasoline engines.
3. the gas engine is used as a electric generator and a powertrain

the hybrids have what toyota calls "synergy drive" which is a new transmission that doesnt really have much gear ratios as the electric motors are built in with the tranny. the prius would do fine........uh........so long as you don't need excelleration, or you dont plan on hitting anything or going on a unpaved surface. they should do fine outrunning zombie children LOL
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
12. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 23 2009, 9:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 9:55 PM EDT
Ugh, you're explanation has a few holes in it. First off, the Prius doesn't have an advantage on the highway. The Prius uses regenerative braking to recharge its batteries. Actually, acceleration is not that much of a horrific problem for the Prius if it has a charge in the batteries, then it can use the electric motors and the gas engine for acceleration.
The thing is, if you have to drive a Prius hard, the mileage is terrible. On the show Top Gear, they drove a Prius flat out around their track, and had a new, V8 BMW M3 follow it. Because the M3 was barely idling along and the Prius was using every bit of its enigne's potential, the M3 got better mileage around the track than the Prius. So a Prius's gains may not be that great, and the drawbacks are just unforgiveable.
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womule2005
womule2005
13. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 23 2009, 10:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 10:05 PM EDT
"Ugh, you're explanation has a few holes in it. First off, the Prius doesn't have an advantage on the highway. The Prius uses regenerative braking to recharge its batteries. Actually, acceleration is not that much of a horrific problem for the Prius if it has a charge in the batteries, then it can use the electric motors and the gas engine for acceleration.
The thing is, if you have to drive a Prius hard, the mileage is terrible. On the show Top Gear, they drove a Prius flat out around their track, and had a new, V8 BMW M3 follow it. Because the M3 was barely idling along and the Prius was using every bit of its enigne's potential, the M3 got better mileage around the track than the Prius. So a Prius's gains may not be that great, and the drawbacks are just unforgiveable."
well sorry i wasnt clear. the prius sucks in pre z-day world. but the batteries can charge if needed on the highway with the engine running. the regenerative braking is only 1 of the recharging features on the prius......not the only recharge. the engine does alot of recharging
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
14. RE: Hybrid cars
Mar 23 2009, 10:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 10:34 PM EDT
No, actually it starts sucking post Z-Day. Now there are so many cars on the road that a Prius can get a ton of its electricity through regenerative braking. Post Z-day, a small gas powered car like a Caterham or a Lotus Elise would give you almost the same mileage while providing far better performance. Do you find this valuable?