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Zaraki-Rose	The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 14 2009, 12:09 PM EDT In your opinion, which are the best pre-epidemic occupations that would make survival in a class 4 world possible. And no, zombie obssesed nerd or proffesional zed movie watcher do not count, people who in their line of work learn survival skills and weapons use, such as martial artists and Army medics do. Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: group skills Survival
inu-dude25	1. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 14 2009, 1:00 PM EDT Any kind of mechanical, electrical, or automotive engineer would be good. Good understanding of how things work and how you create things. Could prove invaluable in designing and fabricating barricades, vehicle reinforcements, etc. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Dr.ZED	2. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 1:23 PM EDT "In your opinion, which are the best pre-epidemic occupations that would make survival in a class 4 world possible. And no, zombie obssesed nerd or proffesional zed movie watcher do not count, people who in their line of work learn survival skills and weapons use, such as martial artists and Army medics do." I got on this site with a desire to venture into other peoples speculations about a post apocalyptic society. I continue to use the zombie outbreak in my own mind as a metaphor for a situation in which mass pandemonium, civil unrest, natural disater, or a bilogical event, occurs. I find myself nearly dumping the site daily as I find the scenarios and questions beyond reality or fantasy. #0 years ago it was about "mutually assured distruction after a nuclear strike between two nations. All was quiet, relatively, until 9/11. We saw the aftermath of Hurricanes, and impotence in our response to our own citizens, in desperate need. So to answer your question, there truly is a duty to be well rounded in many areas, however your true profession and abilities to aid others becomes a commodity. Store employees, middle management, accountants, lawyers, landscapers, bartenders,models, video/audio/computer, useless. Look at the viable commodities that already exist in third world nations. Doctors, nurses, mechanics. I may not get paid in currency, but i will be paid in chickens, toilet paper, and other "needed" items. Any fool can buy a gun, point and shoot. The essential flaw with our society is that ownership and an id badge entitles the individual to assume he is an expert in whatever it is that he "has become." When the lights go out, what is your skill? I like my anonymity within this web site, but I will say i am a US Combat vet, a physician, and a survivalist. WWZ talks about the mentality of the masses after the attack, and our inability to accomodate. Post reply 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
NorCal_Survivors	3. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 6:30 PM EDT "I got on this site with a desire to venture into other peoples speculations about a post apocalyptic society. I continue to use the zombie outbreak in my own mind as a metaphor for a situation in which mass pandemonium, civil unrest, natural disater, or a bilogical event, occurs. ... Store employees, middle management, accountants, lawyers, landscapers, bartenders,models, video/audio/computer, useless. Look at the viable commodities that already exist in third world nations. Doctors, nurses, mechanics. ..." I tend to take the same approach as you do ... the Z scenario is a planning tool, the more realistic, the better. I do take issue (maybe just a misunderstanding) with some of your classifications of "useless" people. Your average landscaper - for instance - will be in excellent physical condition and well acustomed to doing hard physical labor for hours on end ... that's going to be damned useful IMHO. The video/audio/computer technician type tends to be an excellent problem solver for all manner of things mechanical/electrical/electronic ... I sure want to have someone around who can FIGURE OUT how to rig up lights, solar power, repair small machinery or keep radios working. I agree with you that most of the "scribbler class" (lawyers, accountants, etc.) will be essentially useless, but it's amazing how useful basic "documentarian/librarian" skills may come to be if you think about the initial stages of recovering anything close to a functional civilization even on a small scale. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
SkipNChurch	4. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 7:53 PM EDT WTF does it matter pre dayZed? You and I are absolutely CLUELESS as to who is gonna make it through to the other side of the Zedpocolypse. Where is is good to plan best as possible this side of Zombie, The Day Human World Day Died, will be impossible to have exactly whom you WANT. Survivors will be a polyglot group of persons, personalities, and in turn abilities. Some of we will be strong in X. Others will know how to do Y, few others will babysit, knit socks, and snipe fastmovers from 1500Km while watching the youngsters... Thing that is more important than the jobs and abilities of Survivors is YOUR ability to motivate, cross train those same folks, and in turn get your Group to speed on zero time, budget, and materials. If You dear reader are unable or unmotivated to help the circle of Survivors to grow stronger, might be best you slipped out under wire and left. Nature fills vacuum and in turn someone will take charge. Can be a degreeded Enginner. Maybe a Schoolmarm. Might be Sissy the Babysitter. We simply don't know what cards will be played until we are at the game of Post-Zed. Play well, you got one hand to pick right folks and make sure you and they are on right track to survive. SnC SpecializationIsForInscects Post reply 2 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Dr.ZED	5. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 8:22 PM EDT "WTF does it matter pre dayZed? You and I are absolutely CLUELESS as to who is gonna make it through to the other side of the Zedpocolypse. Where is is good to plan best as possible this side of Zombie, The Day Human World Day Died, will be impossible to have exactly whom you WANT. Survivors will be a polyglot group of persons, personalities, and in turn abilities. Some of we will be strong in X. Others will know how to do Y, few others will babysit, knit socks, and snipe fastmovers from 1500Km while watching the youngsters... Thing that is more important than the jobs and abilities of Survivors is YOUR ability to motivate, cross train those same folks, and in turn get your Group to speed on zero time, budget, and materials. If You dear reader are unable or unmotivated to help the circle of Survivors to grow stronger, might be best you slipped out under wire and left. Nature fills vacuum and in turn someone will take charge. Can be a degreeded Enginner. Maybe a Schoolmarm. Might be Sissy the Babysitter. We simply don't know what cards will be played until we are at the game of Post-Zed. Play well, you got one hand to pick right folks and make sure you and they are on right track to survive. SnC SpecializationIsForInscects" You make the assumption some people can lead. The vacuum you refer to is ocuring right now. Social Darwinism at its zenith. Our society has regurgitated useless occupations, staffed by useless individuals. But it is the theme to let everyone think they are special and are good contributants to the bigger process. You never know who has that "true" ability to perform gracefully,heroically, dependably while under fire, but the odds of success are in your favor if you have some idea as to what you can do. Goes back to your vacuum again. Be good at something, and know how to open a can of beans. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
inu-dude25	6. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 10:05 PM EDT Well, to stick to the thread's topic, I would say a manager/ worker in a gun shop. Plenty of experience handling firearms and ammunition, you're trained to carry a firearm (at least all of the guys carry handguns at the gun store I go to), and you know how to field strip most guns and what to clean and maintain them with. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dominickmagas	7. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 10:25 PM EDT id say mostly any weapons-oriented job. hunter, soldier, swat, tactical unit, maybe cop, gun store owner Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dominickmagas	8. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 15 2009, 10:36 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 15 2009, 10:37 PM EDT also, anything that will help other people and that you will be able to exploit to get what you need (doctor, mechanic, repairman, carpenter) pretty much any hands-on job will be valulable. (when i say hands-on, i mean getting your hands dirty, i don't mean like a hands-on accountant or something like that) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	9. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 16 2009, 9:30 AM EDT Just off the top of my head, here are some of the people I would want around me after the world ends. They are not necessarily in order. Engineer Farmer Doctor Mechanic Welder Carpenter Mason Survival Instructor Pharmacist Another Engineer. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
timberrattler	10. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Mar 16 2009, 11:32 AM EDT "WTF does it matter pre dayZed? You and I are absolutely CLUELESS as to who is gonna make it through to the other side of the Zedpocolypse. Where is is good to plan best as possible this side of Zombie, The Day Human World Day Died, will be impossible to have exactly whom you WANT. Survivors will be a polyglot group of persons, personalities, and in turn abilities. Some of we will be strong in X. Others will know how to do Y, few others will babysit, knit socks, and snipe fastmovers from 1500Km while watching the youngsters... Thing that is more important than the jobs and abilities of Survivors is YOUR ability to motivate, cross train those same folks, and in turn get your Group to speed on zero time, budget, and materials. If You dear reader are unable or unmotivated to help the circle of Survivors to grow stronger, might be best you slipped out under wire and left. Nature fills vacuum and in turn someone will take charge. Can be a degreeded Enginner. Maybe a Schoolmarm. Might be Sissy the Babysitter. We simply don't know what cards will be played until we are at the game of Post-Zed. Play well, you got one hand to pick right folks and make sure you and they are on right track to survive. SnC SpecializationIsForInscects" Good answer! Post reply 1 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
yesevil360	11. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 15 2009, 6:14 AM EDT I would much prefer to have a soldier, preferably special forces, than a pharmacist. you could also have a chemist instead of the other engineer, because a chemist could manufacture penicillin, and also make stuff that goes BOOM!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
necroslaughter	12. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 15 2009, 4:29 PM EDT "I would much prefer to have a soldier, preferably special forces, than a pharmacist. you could also have a chemist instead of the other engineer, because a chemist could manufacture penicillin, and also make stuff that goes BOOM!!! " So when you come down with MRSA which antibiotic are you going to take? While mom is taking her anti depressants and she breaks her leg and you raid CVS and get her some Demerol for the pain how do you explain to dad why she is dead? When you are getting Grandma her high BP meds meds do you take Meperidine, or Metoprolol? See why it is good to have a pharmacist? In case one mom maybe taking her MAOIs and when you mix that with the Demerol you have raided she dies. If she can’t get them she goes through withdrawals. In number two if you get Grandma her Meperidine she will be a happy camper but eventually stroke because she needed the Metoprolol. Now you get MRSA do you take PCN, Levaquin, Bactrim? See why you need a pharmacist? People will get sick and hurt and sometimes a Band-Aid won’t work. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DevilNuts	13. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 15 2009, 6:13 PM EDT "I would much prefer to have a soldier, preferably special forces, than a pharmacist. you could also have a chemist instead of the other engineer, because a chemist could manufacture penicillin, and also make stuff that goes BOOM!!! " Here's the problem - Soldiery is not really brain-intensive. Anyone who is physically capable can learn to be a warfighter. People like pharmacists, doctors and chemists (engineers too) are higher educated, meaning that in addition to the ability to learn soldiering, they also able to have learned many things that the average ground pounder has not. Not only speaking of their innate capabilities to comprehend higher concepts, but they also have eight whole years of schooling to bring to the table. Military schools are months long, at most. I'm not saying that soldiers are stupid, but think about this: where can you attend medical school after Z day? I would imagine nowhere. But it only takes one good warfighter to teach those skills to other survivors, and you don't even need books or lab equipment to do it. Any doctor can learn to shoot straight, but find me a special forces recon ranger commando who can perform open heart surgery. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
3DayAsylum	14. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 15 2009, 6:58 PM EDT Now, if you're one who got MedSchool paid for by the military, you COULD be that decorated and skilled to be a Navy SEAL, or whatever that last thing you said was. Although I rather doubt it. But otherwise, I completely agree with you, DN. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
inu-dude25	15. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 15 2009, 11:07 PM EDT "I would much prefer to have a soldier, preferably special forces, than a pharmacist. you could also have a chemist instead of the other engineer, because a chemist could manufacture penicillin, and also make stuff that goes BOOM!!! " Any redneck can make things go boom, it's all in controlling the boom and not blowing a limb off. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
browncoat117	16. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 17 2009, 8:22 AM EDT in my team i would want 1. at least 3 basic infantrymen 2. 1 or 2 medics or a medic and a surgon 3. a sniper or 2 4. a technition (more if i started a convoy) 5. drivers (also for a convoy 6. some women folk seriousley you dont want to have of all men and then find out that everyone else is dead. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SpcDucky	17. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 19 2009, 3:52 PM EDT "Here's the problem - Soldiery is not really brain-intensive. Anyone who is physically capable can learn to be a warfighter. People like pharmacists, doctors and chemists (engineers too) are higher educated, meaning that in addition to the ability to learn soldiering, they also able to have learned many things that the average ground pounder has not. Not only speaking of their innate capabilities to comprehend higher concepts, but they also have eight whole years of schooling to bring to the table. Military schools are months long, at most. I'm not saying that soldiers are stupid, but think about this: where can you attend medical school after Z day? I would imagine nowhere. But it only takes one good warfighter to teach those skills to other survivors, and you don't even need books or lab equipment to do it. Any doctor can learn to shoot straight, but find me a special forces recon ranger commando who can perform open heart surgery. " Actually modern day military is about the "smart" soldier. Don't get me wrong I've seen some people that make me worry why they would even think of being in the armed services. But I've seen with the National guard you usually get people with civilian/military expertise myself being a decent example: 25U signal systems support specialist. I can fix most radios and other electronic communication systems, also I am CLS certified. For when the redneck happens to blow off a limb I could render the first aid necessary to insure he can at least be the guy you nick name stubby who watches your safe house door. (CLS involves more than a tourniquet, i can use splints and bandage as well. Also do a chest decompression and give I.Vs as well.) Civilian side I'm mostly a Nerd but i happen to be the guy who is good at problem solving, also having a BUNCH of medic/mechanic/cook buddies through the national guard who I happen to acquire new skills from all the time. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
inu-dude25	18. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 19 2009, 6:30 PM EDT "in my team i would want 1. at least 3 basic infantrymen 2. 1 or 2 medics or a medic and a surgon 3. a sniper or 2 4. a technition (more if i started a convoy) 5. drivers (also for a convoy 6. some women folk seriousley you dont want to have of all men and then find out that everyone else is dead." And what happens if you don't get this magical A-Team, huh? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	19. RE: The top ten pre Z-Day occupations for survivors Apr 19 2009, 6:35 PM EDT It really doesn't matter what you do.... Long as you make enough money to buy gear and fortify a position a head of time, its just like living in normal life in any other worldwide crisis. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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