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Life After People 2008
Mar 21 2009, 3:20 PM EDT
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I've seen this film before and today watched it again.I'm posting it here because it takes a amazing look at what happens in the absence of human presence... Basicly what a Post Z Day world would look like with a limited or absent human population... Electricity, Buildings, Animals wild and domesticated, and The City of Pripyat, Ukraine the site of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster which was quickly abandoned are all discussed. Other issues discussed: Wildfires spreading into and through citys How quickly will roads become unuseable or indistinguishable? Which structures will last and which won't? What if unusual speices such as lions escape from zoos? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4939078184096254535&hl=en 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?
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DevilNuts |
1. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 21 2009, 3:41 PM EDT
I watched parts of it, and it's really interesting to see what a big city would look like - it's really quite amazing how fast things go to shit without all of the upkeep and people really don't know all of the work that goes into keeping things in working order.A good example is the rubber molding around windows of skyscrapers and with nobody to replace it, the rubber rots in a matter of a few years and all of the glass would eventually fall out of the buildings. Do you find this valuable? |
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ViolentKisses |
2. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 21 2009, 6:40 PM EDT
It appears the hoover dam will be one of very few buildings of any worth in 50 yearsUnless you really work and maintain a farm or something... Do you find this valuable? |
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sporezombie |
3. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 30 2009, 10:08 AM EDT
Actually hoover lasted for a few thousands years as a building but yah it works for about 50 years.
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possumblaster |
4. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 30 2009, 1:19 PM EDT
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Asphalt will fall apart faster than most people think. Asphalt relies a lot on traffic to keep it compacted and to keep water worked out of it. When water gets into asphalt and freezes it busts it up. I would say asphalt roads would last about 6-7 years before they started getting lots of pot-holes. Maybe 10 years until grass starts growing up through the middle. I would give concrete interstate roads a much better chance of lasting. I would say concrete roads (with deep thick concrete) would be drivable for 20 years or so with no maintenance. Just my opinion.
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inu-dude25 |
5. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 30 2009, 6:40 PM EDT
"Actually hoover lasted for a few thousands years as a building but yah it works for about 50 years."That's good to know. A big assumption is that power will instantly go out, but nuclear plants and hydro electric are largely self sufficient. Do you find this valuable? |
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sporezombie |
6. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 10:37 AM EDT
Also nuclear plants most likely won't go nuclear due to failsafes but they will shut down.
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inu-dude25 |
7. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 4:39 PM EDT
Yeah, though they only shut down when the fuel rods are spent and are going bad, which takes years to happen.
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MajorDamage |
8. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 6:50 PM EDT
For anyone who has not seen it or does not own a copy, I highly suggest getting it and using it as part of your block training (for yourself and interested parties). Suffice to say, after 25 years, the landscape would be vastly different than what most expect. Consider all those fires with no one to put them out too.as far as the nuclear plants, they will shut down earlier due to the need for human interaction. Windmills will also seize up in short order. Do you find this valuable? |
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humanroach |
9. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 6:57 PM EDT
"I've seen this film before and today watched it again.i love that show. it informed me of some things i never knew or never thought about. it's amazing how long things last. i mean we dont see bridges falling, because people maintain them. and we never see the people maintaining them. so its one of those "out of sight, out of mind" things. after i watched that video i began making threads to discuss long term survival, because raiding stores and houses for supplies wont last more than a couple years even if you are the last person on earth. it was eye opening Do you find this valuable? |
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inu-dude25 |
10. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 7:00 PM EDT
Yeah, fires always cause a regrowth of nature, so everything would become mostly forest and jungle.
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MajorDamage |
11. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 7:14 PM EDT
"Yeah, fires always cause a regrowth of nature, so everything would become mostly forest and jungle."That plus all the urban fires, floods, tornadoes and hurricanes will erase anything not made of stone. Think Mayan temples disappearing only in the US. Feral animals and crumbling buildings. Do you find this valuable? |
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inu-dude25 |
12. RE: Life After People 2008
Mar 31 2009, 7:20 PM EDT
That would take a good while to happen though. In fact, we'd probably all be gone before the big structures start to fall apart.
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ViolentKisses |
13. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 2 2009, 10:02 AM EDT
"For anyone who has not seen it or does not own a copy, I highly suggest getting it and using it as part of your block training (for yourself and interested parties). Suffice to say, after 25 years, the landscape would be vastly different than what most expect. Consider all those fires with no one to put them out too.There is a link to the movie in my first comment you dont need to buy it :) Do you find this valuable? |
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ViolentKisses |
14. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 2 2009, 10:12 AM EDT
It will only work for a few years because the cooling water tubes quickly fill with these little annoying thumbnail sized musclesIt would require people diving and scraping them off to keep the dam from overheating and seizing up. And sporezombie I know the dam will last much longer than 50 years I just ment it will be one of only a few structures useable *without human upkeep* in 50 years... But I'd imagion it would be very very dark as there arent any windows in the dam face... Oh and if the pumps stop then the water would fill in Lake Mead would fill and eventualy spill over the top potentually flooding the dam making it really useless... I supposed there are other large dams in the world like mabey in China but its unlikey to have much practical purpose to anyone living in the US or Canada on Z-Day... Do you find this valuable? |
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ViolentKisses |
15. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 2 2009, 10:18 AM EDT
The movie is based on there being no humans...But to destroy every human without destroying the planet itself would be difficult. It's possibile but much more likely a few *few being several million even* even under the worst circumstances would survive. Any stucture properly maintained will last awhile... I could see the Amish erecting large wooden walls and surviving during Z-Day as they have some time to prepair being isolated and all... The need nothing but dirt, water, and sun and they would survive... Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
16. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 2 2009, 12:25 PM EDT
"The movie is based on there being no humans...Good point I believe the Amish are more prepared than the rest of us. They spend every day without all the simple luxuries we have grown used to. Your modern day farmer depends on lots and lots of diesel, chemicals, man made fertilizer and hybrid seed corn. Without anyone producing these products it wont take long before agriculture as we know it ceases to exhist. You can replant the grain you have but your going to get some sad looking ears of corn. Without fertilize and lime what crops you do raise won't look anything like what we see today. Without herbicide you'll spend most of your day hoeing rows and without insecticide bugs and worms will damage your crops further. I know I'm not painting a very pretty picture but people need to catch on to the fact that their is a lot more to farming than just throwing some seeds on the ground. Without modern technology farming is hard, backbreaking, unrewarding work. If you suck at it, you'll starve! Do you find this valuable? |
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ViolentKisses |
17. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 4 2009, 5:08 PM EDT
"Good point I believe the Amish are more prepared than the rest of us. They spend every day without all the simple luxuries we have grown used to. Your modern day farmer depends on lots and lots of diesel, chemicals, man made fertilizer and hybrid seed corn. Without anyone producing these products it wont take long before agriculture as we know it ceases to exhist. You can replant the grain you have but your going to get some sad looking ears of corn. Without fertilize and lime what crops you do raise won't look anything like what we see today. Without herbicide you'll spend most of your day hoeing rows and without insecticide bugs and worms will damage your crops further. I know I'm not painting a very pretty picture but people need to catch on to the fact that their is a lot more to farming than just throwing some seeds on the ground. Without modern technology farming is hard, backbreaking, unrewarding work. If you suck at it, you'll starve!"I'd guess as time goes on in 10 to 20 years as farms become greener we might depend less on chemicals. I know the farms around my community all create their own diesel from corn, Do you find this valuable? |
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neophyite |
18. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 13 2009, 2:44 PM EDT
there are 104 nuclear power plants in the US and even with fail safes they will eventually break down and cause a meltdown...I do not think the Amish would do very well. Most live around fairly populated areas on the east coast where you would get tons of zombies coming out of DC, Baltimore, Philly, and other small cities, and how would they know the Apocalypse is coming without radios (and some of them don't speak English either to understand their neighbors)... If you have the time read the book it was amazing to see how much the world would change... Also there are two other story lines about large die offs that may interest you. Dies the Fire . SM Stirling where all technology ceases to exist. It creates an interesting idea about how society would reform itself in different parts of the world. To your scattered bodies go... Philip Jose Farmer, where everyone who has ever died wakes up in a new place at the same time, another interesting theory on how societies form in the wake of something unbelievable. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ViolentKisses |
19. RE: Life After People 2008
Apr 15 2009, 6:30 PM EDT
"there are 104 nuclear power plants in the US and even with fail safes they will eventually break down and cause a meltdown..."Just to critic your meltdown of nuclear plants statement. There will not be such a meltdown. Nuclear plants while often built by the lowest bidder are still surrounded by a thick barrier of double concrete walls with damping material inbetween. And the explosion your thinking of would be 1 in 1 million plants today would be a steam explosion as in the Chernobyl disaster were pressure built from overheating of the nuclear rods. This was from human incompetence. Failsafes today would cause the plant to go into safemode as the draw on power became greater from the coal plants shutting down. This safe mode would keep rods completely submerged and cool. Even in the event of the plant collapsing entirely from say a large explosion or a very long lapse of time the mass of thebuilding material of the plant would bury most of the radioactivity... Though if one did go down nearby I wouldn't reccomend drinking water from lakes streams or rivers within 200 miles of it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |